Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

OK... what if the upcoming blu-ray editions have actually been enhanced more and all images look perfect. Imagine perfect sabers, perfect colors, maybe Han shooting first (for the first time actually visible), maybe the old Jabba song with new perfect CGI, perfect Alderaan explosion etc ... in other words: a perfect new Special Edition.

What would be so bad about it? I do not get it!

There would likely be a lot less complaining, but I think the argument would still exist for preservation's sake. I think a lot of the UOT fans (like myself) simply do not like the changes in the Special Edition, and for us it significantly hurts the films.

I can't speak for everyone, but I think the Final Cut of Blade Runner is fantastic-- THAT is how you alter your film. I also feel it was great and important that they restore the other cuts along with it. But if I was being perfectly honest-- if they didn't remaster the older versions, I wouldn't be particularly angry about it, 'cause I prefer the Final Cut.

Even the Indy set-- they did some minor, extremely subtle tweaking to fix a couple fx issues. Couldn't care less about that. I didn't see an online petition to get the unaltered versions of those out.

The problem with the Special Editions are they AREN'T subtle. A lot of the alterations are extremely in your face, and entire sequences are added in or completely changed. To top it all off, the changes are for the worse in many people's eyes.

So basically what I'm saying is that the clamor for the UOT is just as much about dissatisfaction with the Special Editions as much as it is about preserving film history and the version one grew up with and all that.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

OK... what if the upcoming blu-ray editions have actually been enhanced more and all images look perfect. Imagine perfect sabers, perfect colors, maybe Han shooting first (for the first time actually visible), maybe the old Jabba song with new perfect CGI, perfect Alderaan explosion etc ... in other words: a perfect new Special Edition.

What would be so bad about it? I do not get it!

That would mean George would release the original versions .

[eddievanhalen]

I'd like to see how the discs and the rest of the seets look.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

You know the first Star Wars film was released 34 years ago. I'm starting to wonder how many of the people who are insisting on the original editions actually ever saw them. If one was ten years old at the time, you'd likely remember the film, but not necessarily all the little specifics of each special effect or even Han shooting first. If one was at least 15 at the time, you might remember more, but that would make you at least 49. It's time to not care so much.

The 'Special Editions' did not start coming out until 1997.

And by then a large majority of it's fans had seen these films hundreds of times, and the ONLY noticeable change to the film was the addition of the 'A New Hope' title change.


It's pretty cool that the newer generation is getting it's versions on the set, but not so for the ones who started it all, and made it possible for the prequels to even exist.


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[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Personally, I couldn't care less either way. If the set is released and it looks and sounds terrific, I'll probably buy it when there's even further price drops. If it doesn't, I won't. No big deal either way. There's 100 years of other great movies to watch.

Sure, but there is only one Star Wars Saga, and it's divine.

Originally Posted by shelldweller

OK... what if the upcoming blu-ray editions have actually been enhanced more and all images look perfect. Imagine perfect sabers, perfect colors, maybe Han shooting first (for the first time actually visible), maybe the old Jabba song with new perfect CGI, perfect Alderaan explosion etc ... in other words: a perfect new Special Edition.

What would be so bad about it? I do not get it!

SW fans will always find something to complain about. That seems to be their air supply.

I recently saw/heard the old Jabba the Hut song in the From SW to Jedi documentary, and I thought it was perfectly horrid, and I mean really, truly horrid. Luckily, GL will never put it back in. The new song and aliens are a billion times better. The rest of your suggestions sound good to me, although that's nothing terribly new either.

I'd also like a CG Jabba and Yoda (Ep.III) in the OT.

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

I'd like to see how the discs and the rest of the sets look.

You will. You will.

A few days ago, a friend came over and we talked about SW, and he has only seen the PT, and just bits and pieces of the OT. He said that he loves the PT, but the old ones look way too old for him, and that he wished that they were like the PT.
I told him that the story is still good, and that is what matters in the end.

[The Apocalypse]

I can see how some of the changes were probably uneccessary and how people can feel a bit upset at it all, but this hatred of Lucas, for me, just goes a bit too far. I believe that whilst much has changed, the essence has remained, Star Wars is still Star Wars, although again, one is entitled to one's opinions. I love the films, I will never say I hate a particular version, so on that note I say, bring on September 2011.

[Jumpman]

Did anyone go to Star Wars in Concert at the Hollywood Bowl this weekend?

Apparently, they showed clips from the films and apparently the quality of the clips was stunning and that you couldn't distinguish between Prequels and Originals...

A tweet from Scott Mendelson:

If footage shown during Star Wars In Concert is any indiication, blu rays are going to be stunning. Can't tell prequel clips from originals.

[goldenrod]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Did anyone go to Star Wars in Concert at the Hollywood Bowl this weekend?

Apparently, they showed clips from the films and apparently the quality of the clips was stunning and that you couldn't distinguish between Prequels and Originals...

A tweet from Scott Mendelson:

If footage shown during Star Wars In Concert is any indiication, blu rays are going to be stunning. Can't tell prequel clips from originals.

found this on youtube, Vader doesn't seem to have a pink lightsaber:

YouTube - ‪Star Wars: In Concert 2011 at the Hollywood Bowl‬‏

forget my previous post, I don't think it's blu-ray's quality, if you watch the end of the imperial march, we can still see Vader's lightsaber (pink) inside Luke's lightsaber:

YouTube - ‪STAR WARS CONCERT DARTH VADER (HD) HOLLYWOOD BOWL 6/3/2011‬‏

[Franin1]

Looking forward in picking these up real soon.

[Mavrick]

Cant belive it's only 3 months until this set is in my hands if its anything like the last 4 months the time is gunna fly by!! It's scary how fast this year has gone!

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

In other Star Wars BLU RAY related news, I went to Star Wars In Concert at the Hollywood Bowl yesterday and they had a postcard with an ad for the Complete Saga Blu Ray. The discs themselves were shown in the ad and let me tell you they were HIGHLY disappointing. NO ARTWORK on the discs, what-so-ever. Just the name of the movie and its corresponding roman numeral in a light blue. This could just be temporary because the disc art hasn't been finalized, but we'll see. When I have access to a scanner I will scan it unless someone else beats me to the punch.

I present to you the crappy disc art! Glad to see Lucasfilm is going all out with this release.



As long as the picture and sound quality of the films themselves are top notch, I will be a happy camper. However, what has been released thus far hasn't been encouraging.

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I present to you the crappy disc art! Glad to see Lucasfilm is going all out with this release.



As long as the picture and sound quality of the films themselves are top notch, I will be a happy camper. However, what has been released thus far hasn't been encouraging.

I suspect the reason that there isn't any disc art is because it's either temporary or that because the discs will be present in three different sets they've chosen to go with a neutral design which will fit in all three.

[kenkraly2004]

The disc art is not the real deal yet and we won't know what it will look like until comic-con comes next month in July. By then we will know which deleted scenes and the other stuff from disc 7 and 8 will be on the blu-rays and what store's will have an exclusives collectible box that holds all of the blu-ray's.

[Alpha]

I'm a fan of nice disc art and all the little details, but really, when it comes down to it, we won't be watching the discs. I think the silver looks fine though.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Did anyone go to Star Wars in Concert at the Hollywood Bowl this weekend?

Apparently, they showed clips from the films and apparently the quality of the clips was stunning and that you couldn't distinguish between Prequels and Originals...

A tweet from Scott Mendelson:

If footage shown during Star Wars In Concert is any indiication, blu rays are going to be stunning. Can't tell prequel clips from originals.

Who is Scott Mendelson?

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Not to sound confrontational or anything, but you seem to constantly complain about the complaints. Seems like the same thing to me. Weren't you the one who started a thread campaign to get the theatrical Dumb and Dumber on Blu-Ray? (Which I highly agree with, by the way). But isn't that the same thing as what we're doing here with Star Wars?
As for CG Jabba and Yoda, I for one am glad that apparently even old George himself has more restraint with altering the OT than you do-- so far.

Yes I did. I have said it many times before:
In principle, I am all for a release of all versions of SW.
It's the attitude of the "fans" that has made me change my mind.
They have brought so much negativity upon SW, that I feel I have to protest that more than anything else.
Does this make any sense to you?

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I present to you the crappy disc art! Glad to see Lucasfilm is going all out with this release.



As long as the picture and sound quality of the films themselves are top notch, I will be a happy camper. However, what has been released thus far hasn't been encouraging.

Indeed, not exactly mind-blowing, but we don't know for sure whether this is final or not yet, so I'll wait until an official announcement.
The DVDs had great disc artwork, so here's hoping.

Originally Posted by Jay444

The issue is that these films made cinematic history and helped define a film era (The Blockbuster Era). To want to preserve them in their original classic editions is normal (especially for those whom have studied film or have made it a major hobby).

The edition of Blade Runner that was shown to one of my college film classes was the original theatrical edition not the Director's Cut/Final Edit. While you can argue the merits of the directors cut, it wasn't the same film audiences saw in 1982. It is important to study art and understand the time period it was produced in (i.e. Hollywood System, The Silent Era, Blockbuster Era). Kind of like art has Art Deco, Georgorian, and so on. You can say the 1997/2004 Trilogy is a product of the Digital Era as the changes made to the Star Wars films were impossible to do in the Blockbuster Time Period.

So, this is why so many people get upset because a piece of art is being altered and removed from its actual time period of production and by doing so parts of said film are lost forever (and Star Wars is a pretty important piece of Hollywood history that we are discussing here). Like removing some of the Mona Lisa's oil painting and using a Magic Marker to clean it up (of course that is an extreme comparison).

Anyway, I enjoy discussing this intelligently with you, and if this post gets moved its cool.

Believe it or not, I agree with you. Good post.

The thing is that the SW saga consists of 6 episodes now, and due to the 16 year jump between the two trilogies, the OT sort of had to be "modified" to a certain extent, or else they wouldn't be one whole saga.

I, for one, as a fan of all the SW films, just need the latest versions, but fans of only the OT should get the UOT, at least if they are civil about it.

[NYorker]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I present to you the crappy disc art! Glad to see Lucasfilm is going all out with this release.



As long as the picture and sound quality of the films themselves are top notch, I will be a happy camper. However, what has been released thus far hasn't been encouraging.

That is an understatement...

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by NYorker

That is an understatement...

I haven't read the entire thread lately being that it gets buried fast, but what's not been released well??? is there some leaks on bad quality presentation for this set or something?

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I present to you the crappy disc art! Glad to see Lucasfilm is going all out with this release.



As long as the picture and sound quality of the films themselves are top notch, I will be a happy camper. However, what has been released thus far hasn't been encouraging.

Where's that pic from?

[shelldweller]

I think the discs look cool as they are presented... very simple!

[Blu-man08]

I don't have a problem with the disc art as presented in that ad. I'm just looking forward to my Star Wars Blu-Ray marathon come September.