Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

They been at or under $15 each for some time. And it looks like they may be going out of print. The only one that Amazon has in stock right now is RotJ. The other two are only available from 3rd party sellers. Maybe they are just out of stock, but I'm not holding my breath.

The digipack Original Trilogy set that also had all of these same discs is also out of stock, and the 3rd party prices on it are absurdly high.

I don't buy online and I live in Canada (probably should have mentioned that, but I'm so used to posting in Canadian threads)

$19.99 in all stores here, but I wouldn't pay $15 either. I'm hoping after the blu-ray set comes out, they drop below $10... wishful thinking perhaps

But it may take retailers a while to catch on to the fact that the DVD versions are still desirable even with the blu-rays out

And there are still tons of copies in store here, so I'm not worried about availability one bit

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Cowboy

They won't be in this set but they will be released eventually I am betting...lets just say George is losing out on some decent bucks by not putting them out.

I hate to tell you this, but thats just not true.

The actual number of people who won't buy this set just because it doesn't have the originals is probably only a couple thousand. People who want Star Wars on blu are going to buy this set regardless and Lucas knows this.

The reality is it really truly probably does not make financial sense to restore the originals since its unlikely that there would be a huge number of people who would rebuy the originals to make Lucas see a return on his investment.


I have always preferred the SE over the originals, but I have always felt that originals should be preserved as part of film history.

[Cowboy]

Originally Posted by merrick97

I hate to tell you this, but thats just not true.

The actual number of people who won't buy this set just because it doesn't have the originals is probably only a couple thousand. People who want Star Wars on blu are going to buy this set regardless and Lucas knows this.

The reality is it really truly probably does not make financial sense to restore the originals since its unlikely that there would be a huge number of people who would rebuy the originals to make Lucas see a return on his investment.


I have always preferred the SE over the originals, but I have always felt that originals should be preserved as part of film history.

Source? Or just a personal guess...

[octagon]

Originally Posted by merrick97

I hate to tell you this, but thats just not true.

The actual number of people who won't buy this set just because it doesn't have the originals is probably only a couple thousand. People who want Star Wars on blu are going to buy this set regardless and Lucas knows this.

The reality is it really truly probably does not make financial sense to restore the originals since its unlikely that there would be a huge number of people who would rebuy the originals to make Lucas see a return on his investment.


I have always preferred the SE over the originals, but I have always felt that originals should be preserved as part of film history.

You're probably half right. Or more accurately, you're almost certainly at least half right. We could quibble about the 'couple thousand' part but this set won't take a big hit because it doesn't include the UOT. It will do just fine.

The other half, though? I dunno.

Should the UOT ever be released down the road it's hard to believe it wouldn't at least break even. People fell all over themselves to double-dip on an additional few minutes of Avatar and I imagine the LOTR extended editions are going to do okay too.

[Indyjones]

Originally Posted by kamphausd1

But back in 2004 when the DVD's came out and people complained about the transfers, Lucasfilm dismissed all complaints and claimed that the errors present on the discs were deliberate creative choices (I still can't fathom after all these years how giving Vader a pink saber and drowning out the swelling force theme as the x-wings swoop down on the death star constitute deliberate creative choices, but I digress).

Anyway, the thing is is that if those errors are indeed fixed, then they'll basically be admitting that the transfers were defective and that they were just bullshitting everybody when they dismissed all claims to the contrary.

And they also said that there was no edge enhancement or anything else wrong with The Phantom Menace DVD either. As far as I know, Lucas has nothing in the works, as far as new movies go, that he's personally working on, so he should have plenty of time to supervise and get these right. Right?

[Scooter1836]

Originally Posted by nmycon

I don't buy online and I live in Canada (probably should have mentioned that, but I'm so used to posting in Canadian threads)

$19.99 in all stores here, but I wouldn't pay $15 either. I'm hoping after the blu-ray set comes out, they drop below $10... wishful thinking perhaps

But it may take retailers a while to catch on to the fact that the DVD versions are still desirable even with the blu-rays out

And there are still tons of copies in store here, so I'm not worried about availability one bit

Originally Posted by Cowboy

Source? Or just a personal guess...

Common sense since the 2004 sales were several million copies

I for one watched the originals in the theatre, I like the SE also. Although I would like to purchase the originals it would not stop me from getting these.

You can also bet GL did the market research.

[Scooter1836]

Originally Posted by octagon

You're probably half right. Or more accurately, you're almost certainly at least half right. We could quibble about the 'couple thousand' part but this set won't take a big hit because it doesn't include the UOT. It will do just fine.

The other half, though? I dunno.

Should the UOT ever be released down the road it's hard to believe it wouldn't at least break even. People fell all over themselves to double-dip on an additional few minutes of Avatar and I imagine the LOTR extended editions are going to do okay too.

Now the 2004 set was a big hit and it did not include the UOT.

This probably will not be as big since there are going to be some that do not want the blu-ray upgrade.

But I doubt the UOT plays much of a part. More than just a few thousand. But not significant.

Only the vocal minorities tend to post on these types of forums. These forums are not a representation of the mainstream market in either opinion or sales volume.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Scooter1836

Now the 2004 set was a big hit and it did not include the UOT.

This probably will not be as big since there are going to be some that do not want the blu-ray upgrade.

But I doubt the UOT plays much of a part. More than just a few thousand. But not significant.

Only the vocal minorities tend to post on these types of forums. These forums are not a representation of the mainstream market in either opinion or sales volume.

I understand that and agree. But vocal minorities routinely support niche releases. The mainstream market wasn't itching for a few more minutes of Avatar or a few more hours of LOTR but not only did both materialize, both were fairly big events.

Vocal minorities don't have to be huge to justify/support a release. I also think some of these niche releases can to an extent bleed into the mainstream ie people who don't care that they're not available but might buy them if they are.

Imagine a Classic Star Wars release, maybe a retro ad campaign, a twenty minute extra about how many times Star Wars has been part of a Jeopary question - I really can't see that losing money.

[Scooter1836]

Originally Posted by octagon

I understand that and agree. But vocal minorities routinely support niche releases. The mainstream market wasn't itching for a few more minutes of Avatar or a few more hours of LOTR but not only did both materialize, both were fairly big events.

Vocal minorities don't have to be huge to justify/support a release. I also think some of these niche releases can to an extent bleed into the mainstream ie people who don't care that they're not available but might buy them if they are.

Imagine a Classic Star Wars release, maybe a retro ad campaign, a twenty minute extra about how many times Star Wars has been part of a Jeopary question - I really can't see that losing money.

Well for one thing SW has such a large fan base I would hardly call it a niche release.

I can imagine such a release and I do hope it does happen. I will surely buy it.

But the marketing companies have learned that having releases that compete with themselves are not as profitable. In a link quoted in these threads GL even mentioned that.

For example that is why Alien Anthology did not come out at the same time as the individual movies.

So I do not see a UOT release coming out until after the individual movies have been release and sold to their satisfaction.

A Classic Star Wars release will make money, but in this economy they do not want people having to make too many choices. I bet it wil be there, just not now. They do not want to interfere with these sales. It is all about making money.

And I would disagree on Avatar and LOTR. It is very common for hit movies to come out with extended/directors cuts after the theatrical releases. the reason is to double dip and the mainstream purchases them as they did with LOTR and Avatar. You are fooling yourself if you think that the studios are creating those for the minority. The investment in marketing, packaging, licensing, contracts to directors and writers and, just making them is just too high to high to justify making them for the minority.


Large studios are not stupid and they do a cost benefit analysis on every release and marketing studies on exactly how to release it and generate the most revenue.

[al cos.]

Originally Posted by merrick97

The reality is it really truly probably does not make financial sense to restore the originals since its unlikely that there would be a huge number of people who would rebuy the originals to make Lucas see a return on his investment.

No. There wouldn't even be any older, catalog blu-rays at all if that were true.

[Ite]

I want the complete set but how much bigger is that book compared to a Blu Ray height wise? I hope it can fit in my cabinet.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by atexp80

^ Yes, but you just know that we'd get some standard line about how the 2004 versions were made using the best available elements and restored using the best available technology of the time and that now 7 years later there are new tools etc that they have been able to use to deliver a far better end product.

That way they're saying the delivered the best they could in both 2004 and 2011, whilst admitting no fault of any sort. The thing about politicians is generally they've got someone behind them with an ability to craft superb statements which sidestep issues.

exactly...but they won't even have to do that, they'll just act like 2004 never happened until someone brings them up which they probably won't because anyone asking Lucas questions will throw him softball after softball..

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by Ite

Which set are you getting? I bet the whole big one right? Did you also watch the Ewok spinoff movies?

I'm getting the complete set...and then later in time I'll get them individually.

Yes, I have the Ewok DVD's. I saw the caravan of courage at the movies too. no surprise I guess. Also, used to watch the droids and ewoks cartoons every saturday morning.

[Ite]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I'm getting the complete set...and then later in time I'll get them individually.

Yes, I have the Ewok DVD's. I saw the caravan of courage at the movies too. no surprise I guess. Also, used to watch the droids and ewoks cartoons every saturday morning.

Hmm why buy them twice?

[kenkraly2004]

We could go on and on about the errors from the 2004 dvd's weather they will be fixed or not or about the original theatrical versions versions vs the special editions. The bottom line is the star wars saga on blu-ray is going to be one of the biggest selling blu-ray box set in the history of the format since the format launched in 2006. And come September 16th we are going to enjoy having the films n blu-ray in our collections. I know I am.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

We could go on and on about the errors from the 2004 dvd's weather they will be fixed or now or about the original theatrical versions versions vs the special editions. The bottom line is the star wars saga on blu-ray is going to be one of the biggest selling blu-ray box set in the history of the format since the format launched in 2006. And come September 16th we are going to enjoy having the films n blu-ray in our collections. I know I am.

Hell yeah!!! I've been so excited I bought a new TV and had already put in for vacation time until the release date got pushed back to a friday!!! This will be a day long remembered...

[Jimmy Bro]

Anyone know if this new boxset will contain the theatrical cuts as well?

Hope so

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

Hell yeah!!! I've been so excited I bought a new TV and had already put in for vacation time until the release date got pushed back to a friday!!! This will be a day long remembered...

Indeed and the box set could break some records for blu-ray box sets sold on day one because a lot of fans / people are waiting for the films to come out on blu-ray and are holding out to buy a blu-ray disc player because of the star wars saga.

[Jimmy Bro]

WTF, there's 5 different versions? Since when? I was under the impression Lucas didn't want us to have the theatrical versions?
I thought theyre were just 3? Either the prequel trilogy, original trilogy, or all 6.


So theyre WILL be the theatricals? Which version includes the theatricals? Can someone send me the amazon link or something. I'm just confused as to which one contains the theatrical cuts for some reason :P

Thanks

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Bro

Anyone know if this new boxset will contain the theatrical cuts as well?

Hope so

The Boxset features the completed versions of all movies which will debut on Blu-Ray. No temporary versions will be released. This is intended by the filmmaker to only present the best audio/video performance available.