UltraHD Blurays and players will start coming by Christmas 2015. Still buying blurays

[prozacnation1978]

I'll buy ultra bluray and a player so when I do get a 4k tv.

My tv are only like 5 years old. They are a till new

[pro-bassoonist]

Of course not, I still buy DVDs as I am interested in owning films.

However, I will be among the first people to purchase a 4K Blu-ray player. Provided the transfer is good, Blu-ray and DVD upscaled to 4K look great. I am really looking forward to testing the first native 4K Blu-ray discs

Hopefully, the studios will be smart enough to bundle Blu-ray/4K Blu-ray so that people can start building their libraries.

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

CD's and Records are still around.

And LP sales continue to grow.

Pro-B

[GP Legend]

If they start offering combo packs with Blurays/UHD Blurays right off the bat, then I will buy them and future-proof my collection. However, it will be a long time until I decide to get a 4K TV, and I will not be upgrading all of my movies to UHD bluray like I did with regular blurays. New movies and classics I love are the types of movies I'd get for UHD in the future.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

I don't see combo packs happening with UHD. Just doesn't seem to have any of the same reasons as there were for the Blu-ray/DVD combos. It's possible, but I just don't think it's going to happen.

Oh, and I think they will definitely do that.
They would be most foolish not to.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Oh, and I think they will definitely do that.
They would be most foolish not to.

In what way, though?

If someone is so interested in PQ, investing in a UHD set-up and disc, chances are they aren't going to want a Blu-ray.

There were a ton of reasons (they thought) for combo packs on DVD/Blu-ray, primarily they honestly thought everyone would just switch over. The DVD copy was for portable viewing (since so few portable Blu-ray players are out there, that doesn't exist here), and those that want portable viewing will get that "transfer" feature thing which is disk-less.

They also stand to lose signifigant profits, as folks will likely just sell off or give away the DVD copy like so many already do with the DVD/Blu combo packs. They don't want to further reduce Blu-ray sales.

I just think they aren't planning on UHD supplanting Blu-ray, like they figured with Blu-ray/DVD - I just don't see the incentive for them to do so.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

In what way, though?

If someone is so interested in PQ, investing in a UHD set-up and disc, chances are they aren't going to want a Blu-ray.

There were a ton of reasons (they thought) for combo packs on DVD/Blu-ray, primarily they honestly thought everyone would just switch over. The DVD copy was for portable viewing (since so few portable Blu-ray players are out there, that doesn't exist here), and those that want portable viewing will get that "transfer" feature thing which is disk-less.

They also stand to lose signifigant profits, as folks will likely just sell off or give away the DVD copy like so many already do with the DVD/Blu combo packs. They don't want to further reduce Blu-ray sales.

I just think they aren't planning on UHD supplanting Blu-ray, like they figured with Blu-ray/DVD - I just don't see the incentive for them to do so.

I agree. I think it's just going to be looked upon as a niche.

[mar3o]

I would never buy into UHD discs with the insane copy protection methods in force for the format. Always-on internet connection? Discs registered to individual players? No 4k 3D format? UHD is already dead to me.

EDIT: Just learned much of this was based off an April Fool's joke.

The lack of 4k 3D is true however.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I would never buy into UHD discs with the insane copy protection methods in force for the format. Always-on internet connection? Discs registered to individual players? No 4k 3D format? UHD is already dead to me.

What is this Always-on internet connection part you are talking about mean?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

What is this Always-on internet connection part you are talking about mean?

Lol, after trying to track down where I had originally read this, I discovered that it was a cruel April Fool's joke by myce.com:

http://www.myce.com/news/leaked-emai...tures-2-75561/

I can't believe I fell for it.

Still, the fact that it was believable doesn't speak well for the industry. And thanks to the new HDCP standards, there will certainly be some confusion and gnashing of teeth:

http://www.cnet.com/news/hdcp-2-2-wh...-need-to-know/

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/tel...cp-2-2-1256763

[DiscoDan]

I've pretty much stopped buying since last year. I'm ready for 4K!

[ChipmunksDad]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

I've pretty much stopped buying since last year. I'm ready for 4K!

I have a few on preorder, but I've made a list, checked it twice.

Some movies will be on iTunes, lesser films that I can pick up for less than a rental. I picked up a couple in the last few weeks for $3.99-$9.99 a pop on sale with iTunes. Thanks to free digital copies we have a rather robust streaming catalog that's useful for taking on a road trip. The iTunes count is at 200 or something right now and I don't just outright buy a film for that unless it's on sale and I know I'll watch it a couple of times. I always look for the BD with digital copy. Some are only on Vudu, but most are doubled up. I think I've bought less than 20 digital movies, the rest have been included in the BD. I refuse to pay for something I don't own when I can own the media for the same price. It's nuts.

Some will be on BD, 1080p will be sufficient until they wear out, then 4K. The count is at 400 or so. It includes every movie I ever owned (we replaced our entire DVD collection), plus gains with the Mouse having a kid and a few movies that have come out over the years that I felt were worth buying.

There there is the list. Some movies I will absolutely buy in 4K, no ifs and or buts about it. Day freakin' one. I want the color palet of 4k unleashed on the Disney Animation classics. Blockbusters and classics must absolutely be had. This is at 100 right now.

So it'll be a duke's mixture in our house lead by physical media. God help us if streaming is all there is someday. Nothing like a long term lease that ends the day you die. Truly sad and these people gobble all of it up for convenience. Ugh.

[CKane]

Originally Posted by Captain Willard

Has anyone seen any examples of Blu's upscaled on 4K devices?

I did last weekend in a mall. The blu ray looked terrible, all pixelated!

In my opinion, I'm not upgrading for a 4K tv or another player... Many movies are just in 1080p. I don't see the point, my 1080p samsung tv looks just fantastic! I'll pass and wait for a 4k streaming on netflix or something in that case.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by CKane

I did last weekend in a mall. The blu ray looked terrible, all pixelated!

Blu-ray looks magnificent on my 4K TV, but it helps that it's not been set to Torch mode like most retail stores do.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by CKane

I did last weekend in a mall. The blu ray looked terrible, all pixelated!

That doesn't even make sense. How can blu ray look worse on a 4K TV?

There must've be something wrong with the settings on the TV. Ordinary blu rays are bound to look even better on 4K TVs just like we know how upscaled SD looks better on HD TVs than native SD looked on old box TVs.

[atlantajoseph]

I may be hit by a bus or our species may go extinct due to climate change before 4k really takes hold. So, carpe blu here.

[Member-167298]

I am sure that 4k will be awesome for newer movies, but for those of us that primarily collect older films, the gains will probably be few and far between. Even though Blu ray has been around for several years, most of the studios don't even release adequate HD masters of a lot of catalog titles now. What are the chances that older titles will get appropriate 4k scans? Most of the cult and horror titles I love will probably never see the light of day on 4k (except maybe those done by Vinegar Syndrome).

With that said, I am sure most of the biggest classics will look amazing in 4k (in particular, I would love to see some of Hitchcock's work) and I will probably invest in the technology for that reason a few years down the road when it is affordable.

[tsaiduk]

should i hold off on purchasing a 4k tv? i was planning on getting a 55" sony

[42041]

Originally Posted by tsaiduk

should i hold off on purchasing a 4k tv? i was planning on getting a 55" sony

Personally I'm going to cling on to my plasma and wait for reasonably priced 4K OLED TVs before upgrading. I'm not interested in trading more pixels for all of LCD's other shortcomings. Of course, if you're already on the LCD side, no real reason not to, aside from making sure it's fully compatible with the UHD spec.

[kidglov3s]

Originally Posted by PrestonXI

I am sure that 4k will be awesome for newer movies, but for those of us that primarily collect older films, the gains will probably be few and far between.

Much more to be gained from movies with 35mm and up negatives than all the recent popular movies of the past 15 years finished on 2K Digital Intermediates.

[Member-167298]

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

Much more to be gained from movies with 35mm and up negatives than all the recent popular movies of the past 15 years finished on 2K Digital Intermediates.

In theory, absolutely. I understand that 35mm has much more resolution than 2k or even 4k will allow. However, if you look at some Blu Ray releases of older, they are often plagued with issues like DNR etc that don't even utilize the Blu Ray format properly. If a lot of films were not treated properly on Blu Ray, why would they be treated properly on another format? Furthermore, is there even a reasonable demand for some lesser known films in another format when a lot of films are still not even available on Blu Ray in 2015?