Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

They are also lacking respect for elder cinema.

I LOVE elder cinema. These are some of my favourites:

[Show spoiler]

[Jobla]

My primary Hammer want is THE DEVIL RIDES OUT.

[iamnoone]

HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN and FEAR IN THE NIGHT just announced. What a glorious day!

[starsteam]

Scars of Dracula will probably be announced this summer since they're releasing Horror of Frankenstein. Can't wait to complete my Hammer classic monster disc collection at last.

[Rzzzz]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

The Leech Woman is solid good news, and I'm all in.

I hope that Scream puts on Cult of the Cobra soon. This film features the amazing Faith Domergue, who graced the screen in This Island Earth, It Came from Beneath the Sea, and Where Danger Lives. This is my favorite role of hers, and, hopefully, all of you will soon find out why.

I LOVE Leech Woman. I think it's great. I love all of Gloria Talbot's monster movies. We need Daughter of Dr. Jekyll, I Married a Monster From Outer Space (Paramount) and even the juvenile delinquent film Girls Town, which I thought Gloria was fantastic in. I have about 6 pre-orders with Scream so far and now with The Leech Woman and Isle of the Dead, that is going to make 2 more. I am in blu ray heaven....

[MJD64]

Been waiting for that HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN announcement, nice it's finally official; I'm assuming the Anchor Bay DVD supplements will carry over (that charming interview with the lovely Veronica Carlson is a real plus). Can't wait for the SCARS OF DRACULA announcement (it feels inevitable at this point) and hoping my fave Mummy sequel, BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB, isn't far off either.

[StarDestroyer52]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

[Show spoiler]I want those too



It's cause i'm like Ocpcommunications (ever heard of that youtube critic? him and Ramboraph4life are like youtube's siskel and ebert and better than JeremyJahns, Chrisstuckman and more!) is like me and he's one of my friends on facebook/youtube and he is a real person with high standards in film like me who has a passion for movies like me and can see through the errors of Hollywood now who is not blinded by the beauty of the movie sometimes like for example he is a hardcore fan of Robocop 1 and 2 (except for 3 and the remake which he despises like me) and Ghostbusters 1 and 2 and Elm Street films (except 5 and the remake which he despised both) as he calls Robocop 2014 as Robocock (he said it on his rant/review of why he refuses to call it Robocop and calls it Robocock because he shows a clip of the actor playing Robocop mispronouncing the name Robocop with his foreign accent and that the film was a robotic dildo that rapes the franchise more than 3 did) and as much as he calls Ghostbusters 2016 "Ballbusters" because it has the 4 characters in the film shoot the logo in the balls in the film and it was such a poorly made poorly written poorly paced overlong joyless unfunny badly made piece of garbage according to him which i agree even when he gave the film "no stars".

Afterall he is one of my favorite youtube critics as he's passionate for movies and all just like me and a film student. Yet not everything in the past was gold according to him as there's much shit as there is today like say Cannibal Terror (which was one of the worst films i ever suffered through even when i rented it in the 90s and seeing it again recently and the worst film Mike aka Ocpcommunications saw in 2016 as he suffered through it like i did as now he knows what it's like watching that extremely horrid piece of garbage from 1980) or Demented from 1980 which baffles me and Mike of why Scream factory released such an abomination on blu-ray, he suffered watching that absolute piece of garbage back in 2016 on his reviews as much as i suffered watching that shitpile when i was 13 when i rented it on video then rewatched it again in 2015 on youtube as it was such an absolute pile of garbage that deserves to be burned and never seen again by human eyes.

If i ever saw a copy of Demented at a pawn shop i would use it as a drink coaster. Yet i can't wait for Mike when he does his respect elder cinema video which i requested to him to do a video on respecting some films of the past 1990 to above and appreciating them for what they did and how some succeeded



Personally i see nothing wrong with Robocop as i think it's a perfect movie as i grew up with it since i saw it in theaters as a kid and he's one of my fave movie characters and the original is one of my fave movies and i give the original 5 out of 5 stars plus i give RC 2 4 out of 5 (very underrated film), RC 3 half a star and Robocrap (2014 remake) zero stars just like i give Ghostbusters 1984 5 stars, GB 2 4 out of 5 and Assbusters 2016 No stars.

I am a person with high standards afterall! The biggest problem with film today if you ask me boils down to the audiences themselves.

I would argue it's not audiences getting dumber that's the problem. It's audiences lowering their expectations that is. So much of the mass audience nowadays that sees films have standards that are so low that all that matters is that the film was entertaining or had a few scenes they liked. And it's a good if not great movie.

They are also lacking respect for elder cinema, and don't have the necessary knowledge of what makes a film good, great or even truly terrible. They lack appreciation for every aspect of filmmaking and don't really know what is truly good, bad or even mediocre because their standards are so low.

And Hollywood studios know this. This is why they pump out formulaic lazy sequels, prequels, remakes and reboots because they know the audiences eat it up and does not ask that much of them anymore.

Yes. There are exceptions. But they are clearly outnumbered by the mass amount of people who have lowered expectations and let their viewing habits and opinions on films be skewed by youtube videos (despite i do like Ocpcommunications and Ramboraph4life) and rotten tomatoes scores. Further spreading this cancerous disease of little to no standards for filmmaking or storytelling. And the death of the individual opinion amongst the hordes of audience members.


I have to say it. Too many people have lowered expectations or vague semblances of standards. Especially when it comes to films. The idea that any film is good if it entertained someone, and it provides jobs is to me personally a giant load of steaming bullshit.

First off, I have no issue if people are entertained by any film. Second, I also appreciate the hard work that gets put into making a film by multiple different people. But for me, the fact that a film was entertaining or that it provided work for someone is not enough of a reason for me to give a film a pass, or to lower my standards or to erase them completely.

Every film should not be a success. Just like every film should not be a failure. Whether it's financially or critically every film should have some kind of barometer for quality. If the barometer is nonexistent or is centered around vague concepts, then there are no heights for a film to climb to, no rewards, and nothing is ever at stake.

And film to me personally is more than just a source of entertainment. It's an art form. It's storytelling. And it is also a product. And as a form of storytelling and art, I want it to be able to continually evolve and to improve. And it will not be able to do that if people adopt the mindset that every film no matter how bad it is or how worthless its value is to cinema as a whole is good, let alone acceptable. Nothing ever gets better that way.

Constructive criticism is vital for improvement and sustained success. Patting every film on the back is not going to produce much improvement let alone success. It has to be held accountable sometimes for failure. Without that accountability, nothing will ever change. The quality of cinema will stay stagnant because the audience has placed their standards to such a low point that the quality never rises. It just stays mired in mediocrity or total shit.

And as a product, I expect the film to be of as high quality as it can be. If the film has a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars, I expect great effects and production values. If it has a low budget I expect the filmmakers to use what little they have to great effect. I also expect the stories to be somewhat original and spins on old ideas. Not lazy retreads of popular stories, characters, and franchises that I already know about and have seen plenty of already.

And the fact that films create jobs is not enough of a reason for me to have lowered standards or none at all. It's great that they provide work opportunities for people. But do you think every pizza you order with delivery is good, let alone great just because it provided a job for the person who made it? I sincerely doubt that you feel that way. I know I don't.

It's the same with films. Just like the pizza, whether or not it provided work for people is completely irrelevant to the overall quality of the product. And if someone enjoys that slice of low effort burnt pizza that doesn't make that pizza worth being made and served to the masses. The same applies to films. If an incompetent, poorly written film gets made and is universally reviled it should not be considered a success just because it got made and one person on the internet kinda of liked it.

If you adopt the mindset that every film is worth being made because it provided work or entertainment? That's fine. But keep in mind that this mindset is devastating for the form of entertainment you enjoy and consume. It essentially gives every film no matter how critics or audiences perceive it a gold star. And if critics and audiences as a whole took that mindset? Studios would crank out low effort films that were mediocre at best until they ran out of money or till the end of time. If you want film studios and filmmakers to strive for above average let alone great? You have to have higher standards than this.

The truth hurts.

[EManT2200]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

I LOVE Leech Woman. I think it's great. I love all of Gloria Talbot's monster movies. We need Daughter of Dr. Jekyll, I Married a Monster From Outer Space (Paramount) and even the juvenile delinquent film Girls Town, which I thought Gloria was fantastic in. I have about 6 pre-orders with Scream so far and now with The Leech Woman and Isle of the Dead, that is going to make 2 more. I am in blu ray heaven....

Would really love to see someone announce I Married a Monster from Outer Space on blu!

[BarnDoor]

After today's announcements, this post looks ever more on the money. I do however think they'll change tact for September and October. These months, plus the SDCC announcements, will give us a true indication of where they're at with the Warner Bros and Sony arrangements.

Originally Posted by MJD64

Been waiting for that HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN announcement, nice it's finally official; I'm assuming the Anchor Bay DVD supplements will carry over (that charming interview with the lovely Veronica Carlson is a real plus). Can't wait for the SCARS OF DRACULA announcement (it feels inevitable at this point) and hoping my fave Mummy sequel, BLOOD FROM THE MUMMY'S TOMB, isn't far off either.

I think it's safe to assume that having announced 3 StudioCanal Hammer titles - including the very average Fear in the Night - Scream will almost certainly have the remaining six:

Scars of Dracula
Blood from the Mummy's Tomb
Dr Jekyll and Sister Hyde
To the Devil a Daughter
Demons of the Mind
Straight on Till Morning

The only one on the list I can't see them having is Straight on Till Morning.

[Michael24]

I've heard a lot of mixed to negative reviews of The Horror of Frankenstein, but I like Ralph Bates, Kate O'Mara and especially Veronica Carlson. Always been curious about it.

Hadn't heard of Fear In the Night before but Peter Cushing and Joan Collins as husband and wife has got to be worth watching.

[Jlouisbarrett]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

I want those too



It's cause i'm like Ocpcommunications (ever heard of that youtube critic? him and Ramboraph4life are like youtube's siskel and ebert and better than JeremyJahns, Chrisstuckman and more!) is like me and he's one of my friends on facebook/youtube and he is a real person with high standards in film like me who has a passion for movies like me and can see through the errors of Hollywood now who is not blinded by the beauty of the movie sometimes like for example he is a hardcore fan of Robocop 1 and 2 (except for 3 and the remake which he despises like me) and Ghostbusters 1 and 2 and Elm Street films (except 5 and the remake which he despised both) as he calls Robocop 2014 as Robocock (he said it on his rant/review of why he refuses to call it Robocop and calls it Robocock because he shows a clip of the actor playing Robocop mispronouncing the name Robocop with his foreign accent and that the film was a robotic dildo that rapes the franchise more than 3 did) and as much as he calls Ghostbusters 2016 "Ballbusters" because it has the 4 characters in the film shoot the logo in the balls in the film and it was such a poorly made poorly written poorly paced overlong joyless unfunny badly made piece of garbage according to him which i agree even when he gave the film "no stars".

Afterall he is one of my favorite youtube critics as he's passionate for movies and all just like me and a film student. Yet not everything in the past was gold according to him as there's much shit as there is today like say Cannibal Terror (which was one of the worst films i ever suffered through even when i rented it in the 90s and seeing it again recently and the worst film Mike aka Ocpcommunications saw in 2016 as he suffered through it like i did as now he knows what it's like watching that extremely horrid piece of garbage from 1980) or Demented from 1980 which baffles me and Mike of why Scream factory released such an abomination on blu-ray, he suffered watching that absolute piece of garbage back in 2016 on his reviews as much as i suffered watching that shitpile when i was 13 when i rented it on video then rewatched it again in 2015 on youtube as it was such an absolute pile of garbage that deserves to be burned and never seen again by human eyes.

If i ever saw a copy of Demented at a pawn shop i would use it as a drink coaster. Yet i can't wait for Mike when he does his respect elder cinema video which i requested to him to do a video on respecting some films of the past 1990 to above and appreciating them for what they did and how some succeeded



Personally i see nothing wrong with Robocop as i think it's a perfect movie as i grew up with it since i saw it in theaters as a kid and he's one of my fave movie characters and the original is one of my fave movies and i give the original 5 out of 5 stars plus i give RC 2 4 out of 5 (very underrated film), RC 3 half a star and Robocrap (2014 remake) zero stars just like i give Ghostbusters 1984 5 stars, GB 2 4 out of 5 and Assbusters 2016 No stars.

I am a person with high standards afterall! The biggest problem with film today if you ask me boils down to the audiences themselves.

I would argue it's not audiences getting dumber that's the problem. It's audiences lowering their expectations that is. So much of the mass audience nowadays that sees films have standards that are so low that all that matters is that the film was entertaining or had a few scenes they liked. And it's a good if not great movie.

They are also lacking respect for elder cinema, and don't have the necessary knowledge of what makes a film good, great or even truly terrible. They lack appreciation for every aspect of filmmaking and don't really know what is truly good, bad or even mediocre because their standards are so low.

And Hollywood studios know this. This is why they pump out formulaic lazy sequels, prequels, remakes and reboots because they know the audiences eat it up and does not ask that much of them anymore.

Yes. There are exceptions. But they are clearly outnumbered by the mass amount of people who have lowered expectations and let their viewing habits and opinions on films be skewed by youtube videos (despite i do like Ocpcommunications and Ramboraph4life) and rotten tomatoes scores. Further spreading this cancerous disease of little to no standards for filmmaking or storytelling. And the death of the individual opinion amongst the hordes of audience members.


I have to say it. Too many people have lowered expectations or vague semblances of standards. Especially when it comes to films. The idea that any film is good if it entertained someone, and it provides jobs is to me personally a giant load of steaming bullshit.

First off, I have no issue if people are entertained by any film. Second, I also appreciate the hard work that gets put into making a film by multiple different people. But for me, the fact that a film was entertaining or that it provided work for someone is not enough of a reason for me to give a film a pass, or to lower my standards or to erase them completely.

Every film should not be a success. Just like every film should not be a failure. Whether it's financially or critically every film should have some kind of barometer for quality. If the barometer is nonexistent or is centered around vague concepts, then there are no heights for a film to climb to, no rewards, and nothing is ever at stake.

And film to me personally is more than just a source of entertainment. It's an art form. It's storytelling. And it is also a product. And as a form of storytelling and art, I want it to be able to continually evolve and to improve. And it will not be able to do that if people adopt the mindset that every film no matter how bad it is or how worthless its value is to cinema as a whole is good, let alone acceptable. Nothing ever gets better that way.

Constructive criticism is vital for improvement and sustained success. Patting every film on the back is not going to produce much improvement let alone success. It has to be held accountable sometimes for failure. Without that accountability, nothing will ever change. The quality of cinema will stay stagnant because the audience has placed their standards to such a low point that the quality never rises. It just stays mired in mediocrity or total shit.

And as a product, I expect the film to be of as high quality as it can be. If the film has a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars, I expect great effects and production values. If it has a low budget I expect the filmmakers to use what little they have to great effect. I also expect the stories to be somewhat original and spins on old ideas. Not lazy retreads of popular stories, characters, and franchises that I already know about and have seen plenty of already.

And the fact that films create jobs is not enough of a reason for me to have lowered standards or none at all. It's great that they provide work opportunities for people. But do you think every pizza you order with delivery is good, let alone great just because it provided a job for the person who made it? I sincerely doubt that you feel that way. I know I don't.

It's the same with films. Just like the pizza, whether or not it provided work for people is completely irrelevant to the overall quality of the product. And if someone enjoys that slice of low effort burnt pizza that doesn't make that pizza worth being made and served to the masses. The same applies to films. If an incompetent, poorly written film gets made and is universally reviled it should not be considered a success just because it got made and one person on the internet kinda of liked it.

If you adopt the mindset that every film is worth being made because it provided work or entertainment? That's fine. But keep in mind that this mindset is devastating for the form of entertainment you enjoy and consume. It essentially gives every film no matter how critics or audiences perceive it a gold star. And if critics and audiences as a whole took that mindset? Studios would crank out low effort films that were mediocre at best until they ran out of money or till the end of time. If you want film studios and filmmakers to strive for above average let alone great? You have to have higher standards than this.

The truth hurts.

How long did this take you? Genuinely curious.

[steev210]

If Shout still has a licensing deal with Warner for non-horror titles, I hope they'll release the full extended cut of Wolfgang Petersen's "Poseidon."

There was talk just before "Poseidon" was released on home video back in 2006 that it would include the theatrical cut (98 mins.) and the original 125 minute version that got butchered just before it's theatrical premiere.

The editing in the theatrical cut is atrocious and you can actually feel huge chunks of film missing. Although the film wasn't the blockbuster the studio was hoping for, it does have some excellent suspense and action with great F/X, ingenious practical sets and a good ensemble cast.

I think the film would benefit immensely with the 27 minutes of cut footage reinstated. Fingers crossed.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by steev210

If Shout still has a licensing deal with Warner for non-horror titles, I hope they'll release the full extended cut of Wolfgang Petersen's "Poseidon."

There was talk just before "Poseidon" was released on home video back in 2006 that it would include the theatrical cut (98 mins.) and the original 125 minute version that got butchered just before it's theatrical premiere.

The editing on the theatrical cut is atrocious and you can actually feel huge chunks of film missing. Although the film wasn't the blockbuster the studio was hoping for, it does have some excellent suspense and action with great F/X, ingenious practical sets and a good ensemble cast.

I think the film would benefit immensely with the 27 minutes of cut footage reinstated. Fingers crossed.

I really enjoyed POSEIDON and thought it was very tense and exciting. I agree though that the original cut would be highly desirable... I would more than welcome a new and expanded release!

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by DenOfEarth

It's cause i'm like Ocpcommunications (ever heard of that youtube critic? him and Ramboraph4life are like youtube's siskel and ebert

[sonny gaunt]

I realize people bring it on themselves but, ouch.

[The Great Owl]

I'm excited about adding another Blu-ray to my Judy Geeson collection.

Fear in the Night is a good call today.

[JackForrester]

Originally Posted by MJD64

and I never could find that Eli Roth commentary for the trailer listed as a supplement on the back cover.

That's because who cares about what Eli Roth has to say about anything

[zbinks]

Cliff MacMillan and Jeff Nelson are supposed to be on tonight's episode of BrainwavesTalk, on now.

https://brainwavestalk.com

[Thomas Veil]

LOL this thread has gone off the rails...again. What I have learned is Im saving money with these announcements (I have nothing against old movies but not a fan of old horror), and that I've realized most titles that I want have already been released so it will be rare for me to buy much from here on out horror wise. Makes for once in a great while nice surprises I guess.

[StarDestroyer52]

I'm happy for the two Hammers. Just pre-ordered Frankenstein Created Woman earlier today. I probably am going to wait for Scream to release Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde and Blood from the Mummy's Tomb instead of getting the Studiocanal Blus.