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Old 04-29-2011, 05:33 PM   #141
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Nah, it's pretty awesome and true to the MAX series by Garth Ennis.
I'll have to take your word on this, as I haven't read this series from Garth (only his work on Preacher and Hellblazer). While I do think Stevenson's portayal of Frank Castle was truer to the graphic novels, his antagonist, Jigsaw, was far too campy and comical for me. If the tone was kept serious throughout the film, along with better dialogue, it would have offered the best representation of the Punisher (in my opinion).
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I'll have to take your word on this, as I haven't read this series from Garth (only his work on Preacher and Hellblazer). While I do think Stevenson's portayal of Frank Castle was truer to the graphic novels, his antagonist, Jigsaw, was far too campy and comical for me. If the tone was kept serious throughout the film, along with better dialogue, it would have offered the best representation of the Punisher (in my opinion).
The villains are typically larger than life in Ennis stories.
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:55 PM   #143
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The villains are typically larger than life in Ennis stories.
....which I understand because their accomplishments feed their egos, plus it's a trait that distinguishes them from the rank and file. With that said, it's hard to capture these qualities on film and still be taken seriously; it's a very fine line between crazy and comical. Heath Ledger got it right with the Joker; Dominic West did not with Jigsaw.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:16 PM   #144
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Yes, I liked TLOEGM, but I just watched the trailer for Howard the Duck and it looks horrible.
Sorry, I loved Howard the Duck. Cheesy as all hell, but maybe you had to grow up with it to appreciate its campiness. Superman Returns is the end all, be all worst super hero flick ever made.

I also liked all the Punishers, in their own semi-flawed way. That SHIELD movie with Baywatch boy was horrible; I agree. Daredevil sucked too. But not as bad as Elektra.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:17 PM   #145
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I would like to add if it hasn't been already either captain america 1990 or Nick fury Agent of shield with the Hoff (David Hasilhoff) staring as Nick fury. Both completly Awful films

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....which I understand because their accomplishments feed their egos, plus it's a trait that distinguishes them from the rank and file. With that said, it's hard to capture these qualities on film and still be taken seriously; it's a very fine line between crazy and comical. Heath Ledger got it right with the Joker; Dominic West did not with Jigsaw.
Dark Knight is a pretty realistic and serious film for this genre. War Zone while dark and violent, isn't really realistic or serious. It's more grand guignol than anything. West's Jigsaw kind of reminds me of Nicholson's Joker - mostly played for laughs and camp.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:27 PM   #147
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:40 PM   #148
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Catwoman, Elektra, 1990 Captain America, Dolph Ludgren's The Punisher, and Superman IV are ones I can't stand. I can watch and enjoy Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Superman Returns, and some of the others that get thrown around on here for what they are.
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Dark Knight is a pretty realistic and serious film for this genre. War Zone while dark and violent, isn't really realistic or serious. It's more grand guignol than anything. West's Jigsaw kind of reminds me of Nicholson's Joker - mostly played for laughs and camp.
Nicholson left a sour taste in my mouth after his portrayal of the Joker that still lingers to this day, i.e. I refuse to see anything he's starred in since that fateful performance.
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What ever became of the 1980's (I think) Fantastic Four movie? I could swear I saw previews on a VHS movie when I was a kid. It didn't look all that bad.
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Old 04-30-2011, 01:45 AM   #151
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The 90s Marvel films such as FF and Captain America were pretty horrendous, judging by what I've seen/heard. But as far as the worst I've ever personally viewed, Elektra and Daredevil are horrible.
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What ever became of the 1980's (I think) Fantastic Four movie? I could swear I saw previews on a VHS movie when I was a kid. It didn't look all that bad.

Info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fantastic_Four_(film)

http://www.teako170.com/ffmovie.html

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Has anyone seen the Nick Fury flick with David Hasselhoff? It's suppose to be better than Citizen Kane.
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Thanks! I knew I was not imagining this. Other than looking like an 80's sit com, it doesn't look too awful. Hope It will get released some day.
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Based on what I've seen thus far, the first that comes to mind is Punisher: War Zone. I don't mind over-the-top acting, but this was just beyond ridiculous. I didn't mind Ray Stevenson's performance as Castle, but everyone else was downright terrible. I've heard some bad, cheesy dialogue in my time, and this ranks among the very top. I'm not sure if all of this was intentional on the part of the director and writers, but it's as painful a movie experience as anything I've endured. It was just horrendous.


loved that movie!! I thought it played just like a comic book with over the top villains and action scenes! It was highly enjoyable and very funny in spots-- so funny to see how movies effect people differently....
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loved that movie!! I thought it played just like a comic book with over the top villains and action scenes! It was highly enjoyable and very funny in spots-- so funny to see how movies effect people differently....
i agree. the only thing i would have changed was Jigsaw and his brother, they were TOO over the top and cartoonish but aside from that the movie was Garth Ennis Punisher MAX on film to a T. the dialogue, the violence, the color palette etc were great. Ray Stevenson even looks exactly how Leandro Fernandez draws him. far from perfect but leaps and bounds the best Punisher movie.
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Has anyone seen the Nick Fury flick with David Hasselhoff? It's suppose to be better than Citizen Kane.

That used to show up on late Tv every now and then. It is like a train wreck, but I always end up washing it.
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Iron Man 2 and Hulk.

Yeah, Iron Man was great, but after all the hype for 2, it just couldn't help feeling like a let down. Ang Lee's Hulk? Too much psychobabble, a few nifty effects/action scenes, and some overly depressing performances. These are two that I liked well enough the first time, but over time their true nature was revealed.
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