Whats the best reciever for Surround sound with HDMI 1.3? - Blu-ray Forum

Vegeta9991 · 07-09-2007, 04:49 AM

I have been interested in upgrading my Phillips sourround sound for sometime. (Its about 5 or 7 years old but it still rocks.) But with the wave of HDMI 1.3 and my PS3 supporting that I was wondering what recievers actually have that built in? I have see some that have the HDMI in and out but which ones are HDMI 1.3? Its very hard to know since they seem to hide that information. If someone could point me to a very nice reciever thats no more than 700 or so that would be great. I want to hear what Dolby Digital HD sounds like. Also what speakers would be the best choice with the reciever as well? A all in one packaged deal would be best but they never seem to have the bells and whistles as the stand alone recievers. Thank you.

Footloose301 · 07-09-2007, 06:27 PM

go with the Onkyo TX-SR605.

Memnoch · 07-09-2007, 06:42 PM

I second that Onkyo. I have the new 605 as well. MSRP is $599 I think. you can find it at most stores for around $500. JRs had it for $400. Fantastic. I know someone who spent more for the next one up, the new 805 and he loves it. He wanted the THX certification that is not on the 605. Wasn't worth the extra money for me. MSRP is $1099 on that one I think. Ugh.

antoony · 07-09-2007, 07:09 PM

The 605 is great, my friend bought that after I bought the 805. The only thing i don't like is the ps3 hdmi audio...all you see is 'multichannel' even if u choose true hd on the disc.

crunchywyte · 07-09-2007, 07:17 PM

Onkyo 605...circuit city currently has it on sale for $449.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo...oductDetail.do

bigmf · 07-09-2007, 07:52 PM

So far I'm loving my HK AVR 347.

GarettP · 07-09-2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antoony

The 605 is great, my friend bought that after I bought the 805. The only thing i don't like is the ps3 hdmi audio...all you see is 'multichannel' even if u choose true hd on the disc.

I get that on my 604 all the time too, I have to switch to bitstream when we watch a DVD then I switch to Linear PCM when we watch Blu, it drives me nuts!

LembasBread · 07-09-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antoony

The 605 is great, my friend bought that after I bought the 805. The only thing i don't like is the ps3 hdmi audio...all you see is 'multichannel' even if u choose true hd on the disc.

That's because the PS3 is decoding the TrueHD and spitting it out as multi-channel PCM. At this time, it doesn't have the ability to bitstream the next-gen audio formats via HDMI (it's speculated that it may never be able to, but that's not a problem as long as there's the possibility of it being decoded within the PS3).

ay221 · 07-09-2007, 10:50 PM

I heard that the Onkyos hdmi 1.3 receivers have a very slight audio delay causing a lip synch issue. Also heard some people get an occasional popping sound on their speakers.

cyang77 · 07-09-2007, 10:06 PM

For those who are considering the onkyo 605, just beware of the speaker popping issue with this particular model and the onkyo 805. I got one from J&R and had to return it because of the popping issue.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=859792

kjacobs03 · 07-10-2007, 03:38 AM

I have the Onkyo 605 as well. I hear a lot of popping while watching DirecTV via HDMI but I don't hear popping with my PS3. I am using a cheap HDMI cable with my sat and a Monster M1000 for my PS3. I thought it was the cable. So it is the receiver? Should I exchange the receiver?

ay221 · 07-11-2007, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjacobs03

I have the Onkyo 605 as well. I hear a lot of popping while watching DirecTV via HDMI but I don't hear popping with my PS3. I am using a cheap HDMI cable with my sat and a Monster M1000 for my PS3. I thought it was the cable. So it is the receiver? Should I exchange the receiver?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=859792

Memnoch · 07-11-2007, 02:51 AM

I haven't had any popping issues with my 605 and a coworker hasn't had any issues with his 805. The 805 is THX, has an extra HDMI or two, and can do some other stuff I really didn't think justified the extra money (I think it is technically twice as much as the 605).

People have been arguing up and down about the whole transferring/decoding via HDMI blah, blah, blah. Whatever the PS3 and 605 are doing, it is FANTASTIC. I changed out my optical only Pioneer for this 605 and the difference was amazing. Well worth every penny.

I haven't had any lip sync issues from my 605. I did have lip sync issues from my TV, when I had it on surround. The TV tried to convert the standard sound to surround and it was off by a bit, so I simply turned the surround converter off. No more lip sync.

Footloose301 · 07-11-2007, 08:00 PM

this makes me want to steer away from the 805 i was buying....

BStecke · 07-12-2007, 03:21 AM

I just got the Pioneer Elite VSX-91TXH . . . I like it so far. I just got it on Sunday, and then my lady had to go in the hospital (which is where I currently sit), so I haven't gotten to play with it TOO much, but it passes 1080p perfectly, unlike my HK AVR 247. Transporter in standard DTS sounded pretty darn good as well, as did the PCM snippet of Casino Royale I listened to.

hdeffer1 · 07-17-2007, 01:03 AM

This is brand new best buy $499.00 Its awesome can't wait to try the new samsumg BDP-2400 once its out in Oct, 2007 with the True-HD Audio.

Yamaha RX-V861

* 7-channel 735W powerful surround sound (105W x 7)
* Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
* HDMI Ver. 1.3 with support for Super Audio CD
* Pure Direct HD for high quality sound reproduction
* Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs used in all channels
* Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection
* Upgraded CINEMA DSP with 17 DSP programs
* Compressed Music Enhancer
* Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA
# Zone 2 control and Zone on/off on front panel
# Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs used in all channels
# Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection
# 3 HDTV compatible component video inputs
# iPod song titles displayed in English and Western European languages ISO 8859-1 (Latin1) on the front panel and on-screen display
# High-performance CINEMA DSP LSI (64-bit floating point quantization)
# Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema and Music), SILENT CINEMA and Virtual CINEMA DSP
# Dialogue Lift for dialogue to screen center
# Audio Delay for adjusting lip-sync (0–160ms)
# Preout terminals for front, center, surround and surround back, and subwoofer out
# Preset remote unit with illuminated buttons
# 9 selectable subwoofer crossover frequencies
# Subwoofer phase select
# Front panel video Aux input terminals with optical digital and S-Video input terminals
# Analog mixdown
# 8-channel external decoder input

07-09-2007, 04:49 AM	#1
Vegeta9991 Member Member since:Jul 2007	Whats the best reciever for Surround sound with HDMI 1.3? I have been interested in upgrading my Phillips sourround sound for sometime. (Its about 5 or 7 years old but it still rocks.) But with the wave of HDMI 1.3 and my PS3 supporting that I was wondering what recievers actually have that built in? I have see some that have the HDMI in and out but which ones are HDMI 1.3? Its very hard to know since they seem to hide that information. If someone could point me to a very nice reciever thats no more than 700 or so that would be great. I want to hear what Dolby Digital HD sounds like. Also what speakers would be the best choice with the reciever as well? A all in one packaged deal would be best but they never seem to have the bells and whistles as the stand alone recievers. Thank you.

07-09-2007, 10:06 PM	#10
cyang77 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	Speaker popping issue with Onkyo 605 For those who are considering the onkyo 605, just beware of the speaker popping issue with this particular model and the onkyo 805. I got one from J&R and had to return it because of the popping issue. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=859792

07-17-2007, 01:03 AM	#16
hdeffer1 New Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	I just picked this up This is brand new best buy $499.00 Its awesome can't wait to try the new samsumg BDP-2400 once its out in Oct, 2007 with the True-HD Audio. Yamaha RX-V861 * 7-channel 735W powerful surround sound (105W x 7) * Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification * HDMI Ver. 1.3 with support for Super Audio CD * Pure Direct HD for high quality sound reproduction * Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs used in all channels * Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection * Upgraded CINEMA DSP with 17 DSP programs * Compressed Music Enhancer * Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA # Zone 2 control and Zone on/off on front panel # Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs used in all channels # Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection # 3 HDTV compatible component video inputs # iPod song titles displayed in English and Western European languages ISO 8859-1 (Latin1) on the front panel and on-screen display # High-performance CINEMA DSP LSI (64-bit floating point quantization) # Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema and Music), SILENT CINEMA and Virtual CINEMA DSP # Dialogue Lift for dialogue to screen center # Audio Delay for adjusting lip-sync (0–160ms) # Preout terminals for front, center, surround and surround back, and subwoofer out # Preset remote unit with illuminated buttons # 9 selectable subwoofer crossover frequencies # Subwoofer phase select # Front panel video Aux input terminals with optical digital and S-Video input terminals # Analog mixdown # 8-channel external decoder input

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07-09-2007, 06:27 PM	#2
Footloose301 Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Fort Myers, FL Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 1	go with the Onkyo TX-SR605.

07-09-2007, 06:42 PM	#3
Memnoch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Northern VA 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:185 Trading Score:1	I second that Onkyo. I have the new 605 as well. MSRP is $599 I think. you can find it at most stores for around $500. JRs had it for $400. Fantastic. I know someone who spent more for the next one up, the new 805 and he loves it. He wanted the THX certification that is not on the 605. Wasn't worth the extra money for me. MSRP is $1099 on that one I think. Ugh.

07-09-2007, 07:09 PM	#4
antoony Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4	The 605 is great, my friend bought that after I bought the 805. The only thing i don't like is the ps3 hdmi audio...all you see is 'multichannel' even if u choose true hd on the disc.

07-09-2007, 07:17 PM	#5
crunchywyte Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:16	Onkyo 605...circuit city currently has it on sale for $449. http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo...oductDetail.do

07-09-2007, 07:52 PM	#6
bigmf Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Over here	So far I'm loving my HK AVR 347.

07-09-2007, 10:50 PM	#9
ay221 Special Member Member since:Oct 2006	I heard that the Onkyos hdmi 1.3 receivers have a very slight audio delay causing a lip synch issue. Also heard some people get an occasional popping sound on their speakers.

07-10-2007, 03:38 AM	#11
kjacobs03 Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:Columbus, OH Blu-ray collection:64	I have the Onkyo 605 as well. I hear a lot of popping while watching DirecTV via HDMI but I don't hear popping with my PS3. I am using a cheap HDMI cable with my sat and a Monster M1000 for my PS3. I thought it was the cable. So it is the receiver? Should I exchange the receiver?

07-11-2007, 02:51 AM	#13
Memnoch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Northern VA 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:185 Trading Score:1	I haven't had any popping issues with my 605 and a coworker hasn't had any issues with his 805. The 805 is THX, has an extra HDMI or two, and can do some other stuff I really didn't think justified the extra money (I think it is technically twice as much as the 605). People have been arguing up and down about the whole transferring/decoding via HDMI blah, blah, blah. Whatever the PS3 and 605 are doing, it is FANTASTIC. I changed out my optical only Pioneer for this 605 and the difference was amazing. Well worth every penny. I haven't had any lip sync issues from my 605. I did have lip sync issues from my TV, when I had it on surround. The TV tried to convert the standard sound to surround and it was off by a bit, so I simply turned the surround converter off. No more lip sync.

07-11-2007, 08:00 PM	#14
Footloose301 Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Fort Myers, FL Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 1	this makes me want to steer away from the 805 i was buying....

07-12-2007, 03:21 AM	#15
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I just got the Pioneer Elite VSX-91TXH . . . I like it so far. I just got it on Sunday, and then my lady had to go in the hospital (which is where I currently sit), so I haven't gotten to play with it TOO much, but it passes 1080p perfectly, unlike my HK AVR 247. Transporter in standard DTS sounded pretty darn good as well, as did the PCM snippet of Casino Royale I listened to.

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