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Old 08-23-2007, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default 3 ways Blu-ray can win -- sooner than later (short video)

This is a short video clip on 3 ways BLU-RAY can win the format war. Before Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive BLU-RAY players selling for $399.99 at retail this Christmas would have been fine since many people who have HDTV sets are willing to pay that price. Now since BLU-RAY has begun to lose some studio support to HD-DVD the BLU-RAY camp needs to offer at least one BLU-RAY player for $199.99 with no free movies this Christmas season. At $199.99 millions of standalone BLU-RAY players could be sold even if the HD-DVD camp goes to a $50 retail price. If the BLU-RAY camp does not win this format war this Christmas season we will start to see a flood of combo players on the market for under $500 in late 2008 that play both HD-DVD and BLU-RAY discs and both formats will coexist. The more exclusive studios HD-DVD signs up the more they will create a demand for combo players.
Here is a link to the short video clip from TV predictions.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:44 PM   #2
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well I have read all those ideas over the past few days on this forum
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:49 PM   #3
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I agree that we need a player at that $199.99 mark as well as continue to offer exclusive films that only BD can provide. Of course us loyalists also need to continue to blow all of our $ as well.
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I can't agree with the $199 player price if other BD player makers can't follow suit. Sure Sony could afford to lose the money but it would be terrible for the future because they would price their competition out of the fight. Second, Sony CAN"T talk pricing with their competition or even debate profit margin targets. That would get someone a ticket to "Federal pound you in the ass prison". I don't want to see the BD player market turn into a single source like it has for Toshiba. There is absolutely no one of quality annoucing plans to make an HD-DVD standalone, is there?

BD will win because of hardware support, studio support, content, better video and audio quality today, better technology base for future features. BD doesn't need gimmicks and cheats. Those are for the other guys.

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Old 08-23-2007, 10:07 PM   #5
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I keep saying it I am getting tired of it. make the 5 free movies thing in store at least to the ps3 buyers. get the ps3 buyers into the game and its over. but with 40% not knowing they are playing blu ray games on the system and that it will play the movies too it is hindering sales. if every ps3 owner bought 1 blu ray let alone 2 its all over.

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I keep saying it I am getting tired of it. make the 5 free movies thing in store at least to the ps3 buyers. get the ps3 buyers into the game and its over. but with 40% not knowing they are playing blu ray games on the system and that it will play the movies too.if every ps3 owner bought 1 blu ray let alone 2 its all over.
Sorry I'm late to your idea - I think it's a great one. I'd like to see them put something free in the box also. Spiderman Trilogy comes to mind. Oh and a coupon for a free Sony HDMI cable so people don't plug into their composite connection at home and say, "Damn this blu-ray looks like my DVD!"

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They should make a cheaper 1080i blu-ray player to compete with HD DVD's cheaper 1080i player.
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I can't agree with the $199 player price if other BD player makers can't follow suit. Sure Sony could afford to lose the money but it would be terrible for the future because they would price their competition out of the fight. Second, Sony CAN"T talk pricing with their competition or even debate profit margin targets. That would get someone a ticket to "Federal pound you in the ass prison". I don't want to see the BD player market turn into a single source like it has for Toshiba. There is absolutely no one of quality annoucing plans to make an HD-DVD standalone, is there?

BD will win because of hardware support, studio support, content, better video and audio quality today, better technology base for future features. BD doesn't need gimmicks and cheats. Those are for the other guys.

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Huh? We are not talking a Sony $199.99 player, we are talking a Funai Chinese BluRay player. Sony players would still be in the $399/$499 range, I would assume. This is talk of a $199.99 Funai player being sold by Wal-Mart exclusively. Isn't this what we were talking about?
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If they start selling a $199.99 Funai player at Walmart it'll all be over within weeks... pretty similar to all the small mom and pop electronics stores being pissed that walmart offers HDTVs for far less money, sometimes they dont break even, all in the hopes that once people are in the store buying it, they will end up buying all kinds of accessories as well and cashing in on that
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Huh? We are not talking a Sony $199.99 player, we are talking a Funai Chinese BluRay player. Sony players would still be in the $399/$499 range, I would assume. This is talk of a $199.99 Funai player being sold by Wal-Mart exclusively. Isn't this what we were talking about?
Sorry, I didn't see any reference to a new manufacturer entering the market. If it's possible to make a $199 while not being a POS giving BD a black-eye then I'm all for it. I've heard the stories of HD-DVD players lacking quality and I fear what that would do to Blu-ray.

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Default Swanni: 3 ways Blu-ray can win -- sooner than later

Great video!

http://www.tvpredictions.com/swannibluray082307.htm
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:56 PM   #12
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Seems like the BDA is taking at least two of those points to heart. Cheap Players at Wally World. Some great Fox and Pixar titles coming as well.
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