Thank you FOX - you saved me a lot of money

[blurip]

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

[pscoop]

I'm sorry you are upset at Fox's attempt to keep you from pirating their movies. "Back up" sure.

[blurip]

Originally Posted by pscoop

I'm sorry you are upset at Fox's attempt to keep you from pirating their movies. "Back up" sure.

I Back up only movies I own! , i back up movies because i like being able to use my computer as a server that is not pirating

[Cyorg]

Originally Posted by blurip

I Back up only movies I own!

Well not everyone is as honest and trustworthy as you. Assuming that you actually only copy movies that you purchased legally, that doesn't mean that the other 99.999% of people interested in copying movies will do the same.

[Xerious]

your justification for making illegal copies is hilarious. don't you ever read the opening screens of movies? they strictly do not want you to copy discs for personal or monitary gain what so ever. i'm glad the BDA has a stronger encryption than hd dud... the faster those movies get pirated, the more likely it is those studios wise up and jump off that sinking wreck of a format. it doen't matter though, i appreciate your kind... you make the dud look less and less viable.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by blurip

I Back up only movies I own! , i back up movies because i like being able to use my computer as a server that is not pirating

Sony has a blu-ray server coming out. Problem solved.

[sakbarzad]

Originally Posted by blurip

I Back up only movies I own! , i back up movies because i like being able to use my computer as a server that is not pirating

you want a server here is a server
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665231960
now if you want to cheap about it then thats a different story

[SS316SRV]

Why do you need to "back up" your movies? Are you worried about them being damaged? You have to really try hard to damage a blu-ray disc. BD+ is trying to eliminate pirating. Pirating is the bane of the home video industry. All BD+ is trying to accomplish, is making sure that you own a liscenced Blu-ray movie, not a 5cent China copy. BD+ is most likely not the reason why these new Fox releases will not play. This has been discussed here on this forum ad naseum this week.

Also, if you are not a blu-ray owner/supporter you will not find anything benefitial here. If you do post, do not instigate because we do not appreciate trolls.

[ikbradley]

Originally Posted by blurip

but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies.

It's a shame to see your decision. However, there is no reason to backup a blu-ray because you can practically take a belt sander to the disc and it won't skip.

Keep an open mind, because there are a lot of good movies in the blu-ray stable.

[StilettoViper]

So you are not supporting BluRay because you can't make copies? That's just dumb. What are you going to do IF Blu-Ray becomes the industry standard and you HAVE to buy Blu-Ray? Why don't you be a little more objective instead of just saying "oh i can't copy it, now I don't want it". What a totally mindless homer attitude that is...... Do you really think HD-DVD wants all their stuff copied? No way..They will do everything they can eventually to protect their copyrights as well. Just wait, as usual though, Blu-Ray is ahead in the game.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Boo hoo, I can't steal Blu-ray.... boo hoo

[movies3]

hmmmmm.....

[Wheelman1970]

Originally Posted by ikbradley

It's a shame to see your decision. However, there is no reason to backup a blu-ray because you can practically take a belt sander to the disc and it won't skip.

Keep an open mind, because there are a lot of good movies in the blu-ray stable.

I read a post here a few months ago that BD discs can potentially crack on the edges?

I own over 60 BD movies and personally haven't had any disc issues - also, my 2 year old daughter cannot reach my collection. She does, however, beat the hell out of her own DVD collection.

[lch]

Originally Posted by Wheelman1970

I read a post here a few months ago that BD discs can potentially crack on the edges?

I own over 60 BD movies and personally haven't had any disc issues - also, my 2 year old daughter cannot reach my collection. She does, however, beat the hell out of her own DVD collection.

those should be disc rot right ?
it happen to all plastic media (cd, dvd, hd-dvd, bd,...)

[Therickus]

I guess I don't understand why you are here, and why you posted this. In case you are unaware....this is www.Blu-ray.com . I am pretty sure that HD DVD has a site that "is good enough"(Just like their format) for you to go and post things like that. Also, with your other post(as there are only 2 at the time of this post)...have been pro HD DVD...with a hint of Xbox....which leads me to beleive that you are...a troll...fanboy...whatever else you are going to be called in the coming moments. Thank you for wasting our time...goodbye.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Therickus

I guess I don't understand why you are here, and why you posted this. In case you are unaware....this is www.Blu-ray.com . I am pretty sure that HD DVD has a site that "is good enough"(Just like their format) for you to go and post things like that. Also, with your other post(as there are only 2 at the time of this post)...have been pro HD DVD...with a hint of Xbox....which leads me to beleive that you are...a troll...fanboy...whatever else you are going to be called in the coming moments. Thank you for wasting our time...goodbye.

Call off the dogs there buddy. Blurip is on notice right now, but he hasn't started any trouble yet. Let him prove what worth he has.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Call off the dogs there buddy. Blurip is on notice right now, but he hasn't started any trouble yet. Let him prove what worth he has.

i agree with you. the way i see it, you should be open to minded to both camps. although, yes continue supporting BD, but try to see why some other people like/prefer HDDVD.

i still don't understand, so you like HDDVDS because you can rip'em and save it on the HDD. why would you want to do that? this is the first i run into someone that likes HDDVDs because of this reason. if you said you like it because of Hi Def presentation, then i would have said, you don't know what you are missing with what BD has to offer.

[haushausman]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Call off the dogs there buddy. Blurip is on notice right now, but he hasn't started any trouble yet. Let him prove what worth he has.

Trolls have little worth; expect for slaying with my mighty sword Sting! My blade glows blue, away with this troll before I have his head.

[BluOgre]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

So your upset because you can't copy your Highdef discs?

Sorry, your not going have ANY stuido shed a tear much less Fox. Fox has been the loudest about getting that BD+ out there. It's why they stopped releasing titles temporarely.

With BR having scratch resistant coatings what else do you want? They are not going to allow software to be able to rip their movie directly without their consent. Although I loved to "backup" my DVD's, the losses from stuidos would be huge if people for instance just rented a movie and copied it. Stuidos make a lot of money so I'm sure people don't care when they whine about the money they lose but I can understand why they try to prevent the ability for any average joe to copy their highdef movies.

[WhoDat]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD