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Old 02-13-2008, 04:16 AM   #1
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I have recently purchased and installed a Sammy 5271 and I am having lots of issues like most people are with stutter, TBE and mini blinds. I just felt like my 42inch 1080i set had a better HD Cable output. There are LOADS of pages on avsforum.com about issues with this TV and the smaller version. I just think at $3,000 you should be completely satisfied and not constantly looking for blemishes, etc.

With that said...If I went to a plasma, would I really, truly notice a difference in blu-ray and HD cable? I do use my ps3/xbox for games and is burn in still an issue?

I would be really curious about your opinions. Thanks
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:30 AM   #2
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I have a 61" JVC 1080i LCD and a 50" Hitachi 1080i Plasma and the picture quality is noticably better on my plasma.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:31 AM   #3
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I also watch CNBC most of the day when I'm home working and with the ticker and video games...is the burn in a true issue?
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:36 AM   #4
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There is a higher chance of burn in on the plasma. So if you are watching a ticker, that could be a problem. I use my plasma for movies, games, and tv shows, so they tend to not cause any problems with it. I have noticed that when I watch a tv show and it displays the network logo on the screen for a while, that it will still be there when I watch something else. You'll probably want to stick with an LCD for what you are doing.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:50 PM   #5
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There is a higher chance of burn in on the plasma. So if you are watching a ticker, that could be a problem. I use my plasma for movies, games, and tv shows, so they tend to not cause any problems with it. I have noticed that when I watch a tv show and it displays the network logo on the screen for a while, that it will still be there when I watch something else. You'll probably want to stick with an LCD for what you are doing.
Ya know... plasma is not a heck of a lot different than CRT... the phosphors suffer burn in... but... you might have this problem watching a stock ticker over a period of 10 years constantly on your screen 20 hours a day... otherwise I probably wouldn't worry about it too much. My old CRT never got burn in no matter what games I played or how long I left it on any static image. The plasmas are even better... with a 1/2 life of 100,000 hours now. I have never seen persistent logos on my panasonic plasma... or even the old old old crt's I used to have... come on.lol.

Anyways... LCD's suffer from so many image quality problems I wouldn't even consider them any more. By the time OLED is rocking... no one will care. OLED might suffer burn in too... but it will still be better than LCD. Everything is better than LCD.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:55 PM   #6
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Don't let anyone convince you Plasmas won't have burn-in issues... they will and do. The good news today is that your newer Plasmas come with built-in burnout features that allow you to reverse the effect of it. My Plasma will hold the lines on the side of the screen when watching programs that are not full screen programs. You can see a hint of the burn in after watching for awhile. Yes, ticker streams at the bottom or top will create light burn-in if you leave the channel active long enough. Plasmas absolutely do have this issue and will always have this issue, to some level and degree, as long as it is a phosphorus burning unit.

I run my burn-out feature on my Plasma when I really notice the burn-in and it completely reverses the burn-in. That's one of the big reasons I went ahead and bought a Plasma after getting rid of my 42" Sony Grand Vega LCD. The fact that PQ on Plasma has better color richness and visual depth than LCD, and the burn-in protection feature.

However, the lines between Plasma and LCD are very close now and Plasma will eventually lose its footing as the top PQ reproduction. In some cases with certain newer LCDs it already has. I have a Phillips 32" LCD in the master bedroom and the PQ is absolutely great. There are times when it blows away my Samsung Plasma. The only thing I don't like about the 32" LCD, which is nothing to make me turn my nose up at, is that the PQ seems to be more linear and flat than the PQ on the Plasma. The Plasma gives me a more visually deeper aspect than LCD. I like that.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:18 PM   #7
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Ya know... plasma is not a heck of a lot different than CRT... the phosphors suffer burn in... but... you might have this problem watching a stock ticker over a period of 10 years constantly on your screen 20 hours a day... otherwise I probably wouldn't worry about it too much. My old CRT never got burn in no matter what games I played or how long I left it on any static image. The plasmas are even better... with a 1/2 life of 100,000 hours now. I have never seen persistent logos on my panasonic plasma... or even the old old old crt's I used to have... come on.lol.

Anyways... LCD's suffer from so many image quality problems I wouldn't even consider them any more. By the time OLED is rocking... no one will care. OLED might suffer burn in too... but it will still be better than LCD. Everything is better than LCD.

totally agreed. I love my old CRT tv to death. I used to have a Panny 27 1080i CRT HDTV before upgrade to my plasma. If not cause I want a bigger set 1080P, and HDMI, I would prob still have that TV by now. Plasma remind me alot like CRT and it dose offer the cleanest pics and no motion blur. LCD really are based on computer screen and feel like watching TV on computer. I still feel my old CRT computer monitor look better than my LCD computer monitor from time to time. As far as for gaming, there should be any problem at all since I play alot game onmy plasma and it has no issues as far as burn in concern. Those are the thing of the past. U should not let that worry u.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:36 AM   #8
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I have a 61" JVC 1080i LCD and a 50" Hitachi 1080i Plasma and the picture quality is noticably better on my plasma.
LCD-projection

JVC doesnt make a 61" LCD.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:40 AM   #9
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Damn, you're right. My mistake. It is smaller than the other rear projection I use to have. It does not stick out the back as much. Brain fart....
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:41 AM   #10
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Damn, you're right. My mistake. It is smaller than the other rear projection I use to have. It does not stick out the back as much. Brain fart....
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:44 AM   #11
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Turbo...I see we have the same TV. Are you 100% satisfied with your set? Are you experiencing the TBE and the mini blinds? I am wondering if I should just enjoy my TV and stop looking for it. I just hate that I spent $3,000 last week and here I am already looking to exchange it. I know its probably the best picture out there, but these little annoyances make me mad.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:12 PM   #12
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I have a 61" JVC 1080i LCD and a 50" Hitachi 1080i Plasma and the picture quality is noticably better on my plasma.
I've got a Panasonic Viera 32" LCD and 50" Plasma and while the LCD has a good picture there is NO comparison. The PLASMA DOMINATES!!!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:13 PM   #13
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I've got a Panasonic Viera 32" LCD and 50" Plasma and while the LCD has a good picture there is NO comparison. The PLASMA DOMINATES!!!!
I forgot to mention that I do all of my gaming (Wii, PS3, X360) on the plasma for over 1 year now with ZERO burn in issues.

If you're a gamer, buy a plasma. If you're not a gamer, buy a plasma!
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:48 AM   #14
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I have recently purchased and installed a Sammy 5271 and I am having lots of issues like most people are with stutter, TBE and mini blinds. I just felt like my 42inch 1080i set had a better HD Cable output. There are LOADS of pages on avsforum.com about issues with this TV and the smaller version. I just think at $3,000 you should be completely satisfied and not constantly looking for blemishes, etc.

With that said...If I went to a plasma, would I really, truly notice a difference in blu-ray and HD cable? I do use my ps3/xbox for games and is burn in still an issue?

I would be really curious about your opinions. Thanks

I have a Pioneer/Elite PRO-110FD 50" 1080p plasma and a Westinghouse LVM-37w1 37" 1080p LCD. No contest, the plasma outperforms the LCD. Plasma is absolutely the best method for viewing HD. Plasmas are no more susceptible to burn-in than a CRT. If you leave a still image on any display for an extended period of time, you will sustain burn-in.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:58 PM   #15
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I have recently purchased and installed a Sammy 5271 and I am having lots of issues like most people are with stutter, TBE and mini blinds. I just felt like my 42inch 1080i set had a better HD Cable output. There are LOADS of pages on avsforum.com about issues with this TV and the smaller version. I just think at $3,000 you should be completely satisfied and not constantly looking for blemishes, etc.

With that said...If I went to a plasma, would I really, truly notice a difference in blu-ray and HD cable? I do use my ps3/xbox for games and is burn in still an issue?

I would be really curious about your opinions. Thanks
I was looking at the 4671 myself but went with the Samsung FP-T5084. I was also concerned about the image retention issues... But after owning the TV for a month now I don't give it much thought...

I play a lot of PS3 myself and blu rays.... The only game that gives me any issue about image retention is Rockband.... And some others have said you just run the scrolling screen to get rid of the retention.. 30-60min later it is totally gone..

I am very happy with mine... and I am glad I went with plasma... The motion artifacts made by LCD were an issue for me.
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