Pioneer To End TV Production, Spin Off DVD Development - Blu-ray Forum

SBrooks1 · 02-06-2009, 06:31 PM

First thing I'm doing when I get home is cuddling my 6020

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Pioneer To End TV Production, Spin Off DVD Development

Pioneer plans to completely pull out of the television market in face of the poor economy, according to a report in Japan's Nikkei newspaper.

The company had already announced plans to end production of plasma display panels but was intending to continue producing TV sets using panels from Panasonic. But the harsh economic conditions have now pushed the company to leave the TV market, the newspaper said in its Saturday morning edition.

The PDP TV market is expected to grow by 5 percent in 2009 to 14.6 million units, according to an estimate from DisplaySearch. That's sharply down from the 24 percent growth experienced in 2008 and is falling because of competition from LCD TVs and fewer PDP TV makers in the market.

Pioneer will also spin off its DVD player business to a new joint venture that will be formed with Sharp, according to the report.

Pioneer is scheduled to report its financial results for the October-to-December quarter on Feb. 12.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/15908...ml?tk=rss_news

naturephoto1 · 02-06-2009, 06:33 PM

I highly question that this is correct, however stranger things have been known to happen.

Rich

SBrooks1 · 02-06-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by naturephoto1

Hi highly question that this is correct, however stranger things have been known to happen.

It's correct and being discussed on AVS as well - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1117484

aheintz · 02-06-2009, 07:02 PM

Just when I was going to start saving for a nice Pioneer....

Sonny · 02-06-2009, 07:05 PM

I have nice Pioneer's right now! 9G, what's better?!?!

I hope they still put out those new BD players & the VSX-1019 in April?!?! I hope there "ALL" Pioneer parts to...?

Go Blue · 02-06-2009, 07:08 PM

I wish I had a 9g. I had planned on upgrading my 768p Elite to a 1080p Elite somewhere down the line, but it looks like that won't happen now.

quest88 · 02-08-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aheintz

Just when I was going to start saving for a nice Pioneer....

same freaking here

wafi · 02-09-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aheintz

Just when I was going to start saving for a nice Pioneer....

Ditto! I'm considering maxing my cards right now and buying the 5020FD before it disappears.

Mr. HiDef · 02-06-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I highly question that this is correct, however stranger things have been known to happen.

Rich

This is correct its all over avs

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1117484

pacificvibes · 02-06-2009, 07:16 PM

crap I along with Schulz, was going to buy an Elite plasma. I want to but does anyone think thats not a good idea?

Woody · 02-06-2009, 07:24 PM

They just demo'd their new panels and I believe their new LCDs at CES too I think.

Sad.

The LCD is going to be the death of all other technologies until something comes along that is cheaper.

Cheap, cheap, cheap. That is the way we are headed.

graf1k · 02-06-2009, 07:28 PM

I wonder if this is going to positively affect current model Kuros prices or negatively. If this causes a price drop, I will definitely move up to the 6020. It's sad news, but looking at the 5020, I can honestly say the picture is so good I don't see myself upgrading until OLED or something like that is a reality in sizes 50" and up. I too hope they at least go through with their upcoming BD players. I was looking forward to getting the mid range one.

My_Two_Cents · 02-07-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody

The LCD is going to be the death of all other technologies until something comes along that is cheaper.

Cheap, cheap, cheap. That is the way we are headed.

Why do you say that? From what I've seen, you can get a comparable quality plasma cheaper than an LCD of similar quality/size.

Unfortunately, I agree that this does not bode well for the future of plasma, though it should open the door for more Panasonic market share. I'm glad I have my plasmas, and it looks like I will definitely be upgrading to a 58" 1080p sometime this year.

Go Blue · 02-06-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pacificvibes

crap I along with Schulz, was going to buy an Elite plasma. I want to but does anyone think thats not a good idea?

I think it would be a great idea to buy a 9G now. If I had the money, I would buy a 9G and move my 8G elsewhere in the house.

Sonny · 02-06-2009, 07:58 PM

I'd still get a 9G if you were planning on it & can find one. You won't be left hang if it needs something in 7yrs time. You won't have it that long anyway...well maybe.

[1080-p] · 02-09-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I highly question that this is correct, however stranger things have been known to happen.

Rich

well with articles like this which is sad but there is still some technology that could be introduced
http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archi...-that-pio.html

maybe they will come out with tv like this http://thefutureofthings.com/pod/631...-contrast.html

dobyblue · 02-09-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by [1080-p]

maybe they will come out with tv like this http://thefutureofthings.com/pod/631...-contrast.html

Those dynamic contrast ratios being touted mean absolutely nothing at all because they don't specify testing conditions and they don't represent anything that could be possibly considered normal viewing conditions.

Take 100% black signal, measure.
Take 100% white signal, measure.
What's the ratio = dynamic contrast

ANSI contrast will probably show those sets to be closer to 1,800:1, a far cry from what the Kuro's are seeing (almost 15,000:1)

[1080-p] · 02-09-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Pshaw! Those dynamic contrast ratios being touted mean absolutely nothing at all because they don't specify testing conditions and they don't represent anything that could be possibly considered normal viewing conditions.

Take 100% black signal, measure.
Take 100% white signal, measure.
What's the ratio = dynamic contrast

ANSI contrast will probably show those sets to be closer to 1,800:1

1,800:1 contrast is just dumb

dobyblue · 02-09-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by [1080-p]

1,800:1 contrast is just dumb

Actually it's realistic.
Are you familiar with ANSI?
The Kuro's almost hit 15,000:1 and that's the best on the market.

What is dumb is putting any faith in dynamic contrast figures.

gandley · 02-10-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Those dynamic contrast ratios being touted mean absolutely nothing at all because they don't specify testing conditions and they don't represent anything that could be possibly considered normal viewing conditions.

Take 100% black signal, measure.
Take 100% white signal, measure.
What's the ratio = dynamic contrast

ANSI contrast will probably show those sets to be closer to 1,800:1, a far cry from what the Kuro's are seeing (almost 15,000:1)

Are you getting ANSI contrast and FULL ON/OFF contrast mixed up?

from ultimate AV mag Kuro review

"i measured an ANSI contrast ratio, using the standard 16 square checkerboard, of 2,600:1. That's not a misprint with an added zero. Amazingly, the black squares on the ANSI pattern ranged from 0.006 to 0.009fLâ€”nearly the same as the full-field black. While you'll never see an ANSI contrast this good in a real room even with the lights off, it's still the most impressive ANSI contrast measurement I've yet measured on a display personally"

I just got the 500A Kuro (UK Model), what a picture!!

02-06-2009, 06:33 PM	#2
naturephoto1 Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Breinigsville, PA Home Theater Gallery:260 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:263	I highly question that this is correct, however stranger things have been known to happen. Rich Last edited by naturephoto1; 02-06-2009 at 06:37 PM.

02-06-2009, 07:05 PM	#5
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I have nice Pioneer's right now! 9G, what's better?!?! I hope they still put out those new BD players & the VSX-1019 in April?!?! I hope there "ALL" Pioneer parts to...? Last edited by Sonny; 02-06-2009 at 07:10 PM.

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pacificvibes Tattoo King Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Irvine, CA PSN ID WinterShrinkage Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:51 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	crap I along with Schulz, was going to buy an Elite plasma. I want to but does anyone think thats not a good idea?

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Woody Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:175 Blu-ray collection:415 DVD collection:165	They just demo'd their new panels and I believe their new LCDs at CES too I think. Sad. The LCD is going to be the death of all other technologies until something comes along that is cheaper. Cheap, cheap, cheap. That is the way we are headed.

02-06-2009, 07:28 PM	#12
graf1k Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:🆇🆇🆇🆇 Trading Score:198	I wonder if this is going to positively affect current model Kuros prices or negatively. If this causes a price drop, I will definitely move up to the 6020. It's sad news, but looking at the 5020, I can honestly say the picture is so good I don't see myself upgrading until OLED or something like that is a reality in sizes 50" and up. I too hope they at least go through with their upcoming BD players. I was looking forward to getting the mid range one.

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Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I'd still get a 9G if you were planning on it & can find one. You won't be left hang if it needs something in 7yrs time. You won't have it that long anyway...well maybe.

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