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Old 07-06-2008, 03:06 AM   #1
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Click here for all the early details on yet another emerging HDTV tech. Will this truly have a shot at overtaking OLED once prices for it come down to more "agreeable" levels?
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:57 PM   #2
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It sounds like a reprise of SED. I hope Sony won't pussyfoot around and will actually bring the damn things to market. When will that be, 2011 or 12 maybe?
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:08 PM   #3
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so...what's better OLED or FED?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:04 PM   #4
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what happend to laser tvs ?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:18 PM   #5
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what happend to laser tvs ?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:21 PM   #6
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sony is not working on laser tv technology, other companies are though, sony is deveoping OLED.

OLED and Laser will be similar to the whole Plasma/LCD debate. Both OLED and Laser will provide much better pictures than Plasma or LCD, but Im sure there will be much discussion about what is better OLED or Laser.

Expect to see Laser hit the market before xmas 09.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:39 AM   #7
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FED = Failure Ere Distribution?
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:12 PM   #8
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This early in the game who can really say whats going to be what but after digging around here's some major issues they have with OLEDs :

-Expensive to manufacture

-After a one month test period blue, red and green luminances shrunk by 12%, 7% and 8% respectively.

-Lifespan is extremely short, 17000 hours for standard images, and only 5000 hours for white colors.

-Screens are VERY easily damaged.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:18 PM   #9
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Expect to see Laser hit the market before xmas 09.
Mitsubishi has the following FAQ on their website:

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A: Mitsubishi Laser TV will be introduced in the 3rd Quarter of 2008.
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They don't mention much about how it works, just that it will display like a CRT. I don't think OLED will ever be as big as people are saying, maybe this FED could be the next thing. Of course, that all depends on how these tv's actually work
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:29 PM   #11
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They don't mention much about how it works, just that it will display like a CRT. I don't think OLED will ever be as big as people are saying, maybe this FED could be the next thing. Of course, that all depends on how these tv's actually work
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:57 PM   #12
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This early in the game who can really say whats going to be what but after digging around here's some major issues they have with OLEDs :

-Expensive to manufacture

-After a one month test period blue, red and green luminances shrunk by 12%, 7% and 8% respectively.

-Lifespan is extremely short, 17000 hours for standard images, and only 5000 hours for white colors.

-Screens are VERY easily damaged.
And hard to make a big (> 42") OLED, apparently
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Cool I'm no rocket scientist, but I do have a science background and I would gladly take FED over OLED. That is if Sony can make it comparable price-wise of course!
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Cool I'm no rocket scientist, but I do have a science background and I would gladly take FED over OLED. That is if Sony can make it comparable price-wise of course!
This is a similar technology that may be available this year, although they weren't sure if they would be available for consumers:

surface-conduction electron-emitter display
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:52 PM   #15
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This early in the game who can really say whats going to be what but after digging around here's some major issues they have with OLEDs :

-Expensive to manufacture

-After a one month test period blue, red and green luminances shrunk by 12%, 7% and 8% respectively.

-Lifespan is extremely short, 17000 hours for standard images, and only 5000 hours for white colors.

-Screens are VERY easily damaged.

Not sure where you get your statements from but there is a thread discussing OLED tech here;

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=52331

1. Production cost is NOT expensive for OLED..
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1. Production Cost - Since OLEDs can be printed onto any suitable substrate using an inkjet printer or even screen printing technologies,they can theoretically have a significantly lower cost than LCDs or plasma displays. Printing OLEDs onto flexible substrates opens the door to new applications such as roll-up displays and displays embedded in fabrics or clothing.
(source = http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...TRY=1&SRETRY=0)
2. Lifespan is one of the main disadvantages right now.. but your numbers are a bit old according to recent sources, 30k hours seems to be where they are at now.. again see link for source..

3. Do not know where you get they are easily damaged, and talk about something easily fixed.. by putting a plain of glass over it, or working a complete enclosure.. OLED are used on outdoor screens for stadiums and billboards.. if they can handle outdoors.. they should be able to handle inside a tv
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the plasma lcd battle will be around for many years to come as the technology gets to the point of perfection and the prices drop below a $1000 for a 50" I still think plasma is and will be the clear winner.
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It looks like the mojor disadvantages of FED involve mostly production issues. Longer lifetime can be attained with difficult proceeders (like high vacuums) and there are still other potential problems.
If they can make 1080p screen at big as 50", with a lifespan or at least 10 or 15 years, and at a price comparable to modern LCD and Plasma displays, this would be the perfect monitor.
I am not in the market for a new TV, but i am always looking into what is just around the corner, and when i am ready to get a new TV, FED is a potential contender. I guess that within 10 years, this will be all over.
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a lot of people are compaining about life spans on these TVs, but seriously how many of us have the same TV in their living room that we had in 2000???

At an average rate of 5 hours/day of use x 365 days/year x 8 years = less than 15,000 hours of lives our tvs will get before we say that they are outdated and we need a new one.

OLED will continue to get better with the lifespans of the colors as technology progresses. Making large screens seems to be the biggest challenge right now.

I think OLED will replace LCD, and Laser will replace Plasma. No idea how FED will fit in, but does not seem to be as far along in as Laser and OLED.
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Although OLED is farther along in development than FED, from what the aricle says, it looks like it will move ahead faster than OLED.
We will just have to wait and see what happens with this and how they advance these technologies in the years to come.
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Not sure where you get your statements from but there is a thread discussing OLED tech here;

Sony's own websites and the specs they released. So pretty much right from the horses mouth as they say.
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