Fed up with Sony and Defective Players - Blu-ray Forum

DoctorQ9 · 03-02-2009, 12:15 AM

My Fellow Sony BDP-S300 owners -- we keep going round and round with stories of how our players freeze up, play one disk but not the other, and so forth. Sony is playing us for fools. They release one firmware update after another, and the strategy is clear. Buy enough time for the owners to 1) move on to a better player or 2) go beyond the warranty period to avoid costly repairs (paid by Sony).

When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform.

Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

Blu-Dog · 03-02-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DoctorQ9

My Fellow Sony BDP-S300 owners -- we keep going round and round with stories of how our players freeze up, play one disk but not the other, and so forth. Sony is playing us for fools. They release one firmware update after another, and the strategy is clear. Buy enough time for the owners to 1) move on to a better player or 2) go beyond the warranty period to avoid costly repairs (paid by Sony).

When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform.

Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

Mine works great. I volunteered to pay for it.

It still works, I"m going to watch a movie tonight. What's all the fuss about, again?

deadhatetheliving · 03-02-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DoctorQ9

My Fellow Sony BDP-S300 owners -- we keep going round and round with stories of how our players freeze up, play one disk but not the other, and so forth. Sony is playing us for fools. They release one firmware update after another, and the strategy is clear. Buy enough time for the owners to 1) move on to a better player or 2) go beyond the warranty period to avoid costly repairs (paid by Sony).

When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform.

Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

Wow...you sound like another lazy, bitter American trying to make a quick buck.

SatinKzo · 03-02-2009, 12:51 AM

Now, if this were samsung, I would join in!

fupduk2 · 03-02-2009, 12:54 AM

Wanna buy my old 300? Then you could have your own mini class action law suit.

fletchlives · 03-02-2009, 01:00 AM

Love our sue happy society. I have the 300, do the updates when they come out, and my family and I have gotten nothing but hours of enjoyment watching blu.

Blu-Raider · 03-02-2009, 01:08 AM

Since you feel compelled to post the same thing twice, so will I. By the way, I owned a BDP-s301 and never had one single problem with it that the free firmware updates didnt handle. I bought it with my eyes wide open after doing a little research. I sold it on eBay when I bought my s550.

What I originally replied, I'll state again...

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Absolutely AMAZING. Sony has made an effort for early adopters of the new Blu format to keep their product viable by continuing to pour research dollars into firmware patches for the 300/301. Now you want to sue them because technology (which by the way is advancing exponentially) has passed by a discontinued product?

Un-freaking-believable. Maybe you can pick up a cheap HD-DVD player on eBay and sue Toshiba while you're at it.

Wah waah waaahhh

vamsilak · 03-02-2009, 01:14 AM

what we get after we win
a penny each

onehothemi · 03-03-2009, 02:12 AM

I have owned, and or had at in my possession at one point or another 4 BDP-S300s, 6 PS3 units, and 2 BDP-S350 units and NOT 1 has failed, or not played a disk, and I curently own and operate a BDP-S350 and 80GB PS3 unit and have never had any failures, or problems with the systems, and I also set my parents up with a BDP-S300 and the latest firmware in Florida and they haven't had a problem either. I personally think you should contact Sony directly and explain your greviances or take it to a Sony store in a mall and see if they will exchange the unit or offer you an upgrade.

Blu Titan · 03-03-2009, 02:25 AM

Sony makes electronic products of the highest quality. I own an S300 BD player and it has always been great.

krazeyeyez · 03-03-2009, 12:17 PM

well i would say all the FANatics coming in here to call foul are the lucky ones, i have had everything sony and optical device i have ever owned FAIL. walkmans, boom boxes, ps1's many of them lol, ps2's also many of them, and i finally said hey i will give sony another chance, i mean why would the cheap out on their new product when they are running the show. MY s-300 = DISC CANNOT BE READ ....... no stranger to seeing this on sony products, Props to you OP if you wanna bring this to light, and i am all for your lawsuit, US DAMN LAZY AMERICANS lol i guess brits or whoever don't have lawyers. I am not seeking anything above what i paid which i think should be returned to me, i spent 400 plus dollars on a player, then another thousand plus to do my part to help blu when the HD war, and what do i get in return, a paper weight. And another 400 dollar loss to buy another player! From what i can tell online there are many people who have experienced this same thing, suddenly some discs won't play, then more, then nothing plays, and in my case the thing won't play dvd's or blu's anymore, so BOTH optical drives were bunk.

SatinKzo · 03-03-2009, 01:23 PM

Krazyeyez I'm not a sony fan (I'm a samsung hater). But if you had that much stuff fail I would seriously be looking in the mirror at the cause. I have stuff break now and then, but never the amount you are claiming and never all from one manufacturer. Especially if one manufacturer keeps burning me, then I stop buying their stuff. (I did that with samsung after 2 bd players, not gonna give them a chance for a third time)

krazeyeyez · 03-03-2009, 04:48 PM

LOL trust me man, i have all kinds of optical based tech around here, and the only link among the stuff that reads "no disc, disc read error etc..." appears to be SONY on the front, and i agree, i like sony but i stopped buying anything of theirs that had an optical drive, which also includes the ps3, and stuck with this for some time, I broke my rule on black friday 2007 when i had the extra cash, a new TV, and that player dropped into my price range. I HIGHLY REGRET that. A little research on the net seems to turn up that this is not a small case at all, in fact i know quite a few of my friends have experienced the ol NO DISC sony experience, and quite frankly i do believe they use sub par equipment, hope for a low failure rate, and when it starts to rise, they fix it after the fact in later production.

Yeha-Noha · 03-03-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorQ9

When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform.

Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

Do you think we are so naive or weak minded that we would believe this? No company is going to shoot itself in the foot like that.

Gujjuraja · 03-03-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vamsilak

what we get after we win
a penny each

we dont get anything we actually pay more the new electronics coming out from sony.

kingofgrills · 03-03-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorQ9

My Fellow Sony BDP-S300 owners -- we keep going round and round with stories of how our players freeze up, play one disk but not the other, and so forth. Sony is playing us for fools. They release one firmware update after another, and the strategy is clear. Buy enough time for the owners to 1) move on to a better player or 2) go beyond the warranty period to avoid costly repairs (paid by Sony).

When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform.

Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

I'm smelling a rat - I mean an ambulance chaser - looking for suckers...

krazeyeyez · 03-03-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kingofgrills

I'm smelling a rat - I mean an ambulance chaser - looking for suckers...

lmao i should have more the grazed the OP, i kind of just read the topic name and went off on my rant

touchy subject when a $400 piece of equipment bites the dust, especially when i vowed to stay away from sony disc devices

SpikesBluBlooded · 03-03-2009, 07:15 PM

Sorry to say, but yes, Americans (I being one myself) are extremely litiguous, which is one reason why things (such as healthcare) cost so much money. A free market system operates best when there is little government intervention, and that includes frivolous lawsuits. Legal defense costs money, and that cost is passed on to the end consumer. So when you sue Sony, or any other company for that matter, you drive up the cost for all future consumers.

The simple fact of the matter is that products come with a warranty for a reason, and unless Sony has not honored their warranty, you really have no truly legal leg to stand on. You would have to prove that Sony deliberately put out an inferior product for the sole reason of making a profit on a product that was never designed to function properly, and, again, refuse to honor their warranty.

This issue should be resolved by the free market: don't buy their product! If enough consumers continue to have problems with their product line and in turn don't buy their product, than their business suffers and they either fix the issue, or eventually go out of business. There is an old addage that I think applies here, and that is: Buyer Beware! The internet has provided people around the world the ability to research products prior to buying that wasn't available just 15 years ago, and still people don't do their research.

Why anyone would continue to buy a product from a manufacturer after having numerous problems with them is beyond me. Post your experience on blogs and let other buyers hear about your experiences, but for crying out loud, let's leave the lawsuits for something actually worth going after already, shall we? The only ones being enriched by the experience are the lawyers, and in the end we all will get nothing but higher prices.

SquidPuppet · 03-03-2009, 07:27 PM

Chordata · 03-03-2009, 07:37 PM

LOL, dude people here WORSHIP Sony. Good luck finding support (however warranted it might be).

03-02-2009, 12:15 AM	#1
DoctorQ9 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Fed up with Sony and Defective Players My Fellow Sony BDP-S300 owners -- we keep going round and round with stories of how our players freeze up, play one disk but not the other, and so forth. Sony is playing us for fools. They release one firmware update after another, and the strategy is clear. Buy enough time for the owners to 1) move on to a better player or 2) go beyond the warranty period to avoid costly repairs (paid by Sony). When Sony released the Playstation 3 it knew what a good Blu-Ray player required. Instead of duplicating this in their standalone players, Sony intentionally released products that could not perform. Let us join together in a Class Action against Sony. Go to http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com and join me in our fight for justice!

03-03-2009, 07:27 PM	#19
SquidPuppet Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:277 Blu-ray reviews:27	Pathetic

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onehothemi Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Stuart, Florida Blu-ray collection:327 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:1	I have owned, and or had at in my possession at one point or another 4 BDP-S300s, 6 PS3 units, and 2 BDP-S350 units and NOT 1 has failed, or not played a disk, and I curently own and operate a BDP-S350 and 80GB PS3 unit and have never had any failures, or problems with the systems, and I also set my parents up with a BDP-S300 and the latest firmware in Florida and they haven't had a problem either. I personally think you should contact Sony directly and explain your greviances or take it to a Sony store in a mall and see if they will exchange the unit or offer you an upgrade.

03-03-2009, 02:25 AM	#10
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	Sony makes electronic products of the highest quality. I own an S300 BD player and it has always been great.

03-03-2009, 12:17 PM	#11
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	well i would say all the FANatics coming in here to call foul are the lucky ones, i have had everything sony and optical device i have ever owned FAIL. walkmans, boom boxes, ps1's many of them lol, ps2's also many of them, and i finally said hey i will give sony another chance, i mean why would the cheap out on their new product when they are running the show. MY s-300 = DISC CANNOT BE READ ....... no stranger to seeing this on sony products, Props to you OP if you wanna bring this to light, and i am all for your lawsuit, US DAMN LAZY AMERICANS lol i guess brits or whoever don't have lawyers. I am not seeking anything above what i paid which i think should be returned to me, i spent 400 plus dollars on a player, then another thousand plus to do my part to help blu when the HD war, and what do i get in return, a paper weight. And another 400 dollar loss to buy another player! From what i can tell online there are many people who have experienced this same thing, suddenly some discs won't play, then more, then nothing plays, and in my case the thing won't play dvd's or blu's anymore, so BOTH optical drives were bunk.

03-03-2009, 01:23 PM	#12
SatinKzo Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:131	Krazyeyez I'm not a sony fan (I'm a samsung hater). But if you had that much stuff fail I would seriously be looking in the mirror at the cause. I have stuff break now and then, but never the amount you are claiming and never all from one manufacturer. Especially if one manufacturer keeps burning me, then I stop buying their stuff. (I did that with samsung after 2 bd players, not gonna give them a chance for a third time)

03-03-2009, 04:48 PM	#13
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	LOL trust me man, i have all kinds of optical based tech around here, and the only link among the stuff that reads "no disc, disc read error etc..." appears to be SONY on the front, and i agree, i like sony but i stopped buying anything of theirs that had an optical drive, which also includes the ps3, and stuck with this for some time, I broke my rule on black friday 2007 when i had the extra cash, a new TV, and that player dropped into my price range. I HIGHLY REGRET that. A little research on the net seems to turn up that this is not a small case at all, in fact i know quite a few of my friends have experienced the ol NO DISC sony experience, and quite frankly i do believe they use sub par equipment, hope for a low failure rate, and when it starts to rise, they fix it after the fact in later production.

03-03-2009, 07:15 PM	#18
SpikesBluBlooded Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Orlando, FL Blu-ray collection:719 Trading Score:1	Sorry to say, but yes, Americans (I being one myself) are extremely litiguous, which is one reason why things (such as healthcare) cost so much money. A free market system operates best when there is little government intervention, and that includes frivolous lawsuits. Legal defense costs money, and that cost is passed on to the end consumer. So when you sue Sony, or any other company for that matter, you drive up the cost for all future consumers. The simple fact of the matter is that products come with a warranty for a reason, and unless Sony has not honored their warranty, you really have no truly legal leg to stand on. You would have to prove that Sony deliberately put out an inferior product for the sole reason of making a profit on a product that was never designed to function properly, and, again, refuse to honor their warranty. This issue should be resolved by the free market: don't buy their product! If enough consumers continue to have problems with their product line and in turn don't buy their product, than their business suffers and they either fix the issue, or eventually go out of business. There is an old addage that I think applies here, and that is: Buyer Beware! The internet has provided people around the world the ability to research products prior to buying that wasn't available just 15 years ago, and still people don't do their research. Why anyone would continue to buy a product from a manufacturer after having numerous problems with them is beyond me. Post your experience on blogs and let other buyers hear about your experiences, but for crying out loud, let's leave the lawsuits for something actually worth going after already, shall we? The only ones being enriched by the experience are the lawyers, and in the end we all will get nothing but higher prices.

03-03-2009, 07:37 PM	#20
Chordata Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Home of N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	LOL, dude people here WORSHIP Sony. Good luck finding support (however warranted it might be).

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