Just got back from seeing this movie and all I can say was WOW leaving the theater.I saw Batman when it cam out back in the 80's and as I was leaving the theater I say Jack Nicholson stole the show as the Joker leaving the theater a few hrs ago all I was thinking was the Heath Leager is the Joker.
Yeah, I own it. I wouldn't go as far as saying there is a formula considering TDK had 2 villains and Batman Begins didn't. ]
Well Scarecrow, Carmine Falcone and Ras Al Gul should call count as baddies from Begins. The bad guys just don't team up like Schumacher had them do. The formula is in the Nolan Batman films. The bad guys do not die, and Batman is alone at the end. That is the formula to these films.
[Show spoiler] I've said it about 12 times already. Two Face is not dead. The memorial for Harvey Dent was so to hide the truth about him becoming evil. If gotham knew that their "white knight" gave in to the criminals it would turn gotham into complete chaos.
I'm pretty sure he's not dead...I heard he's the main villain in the next film but that's just rumor and speculation
I'm not sure who is the villain in the next film, but there was an entertaining interview of Nolan recently in regards to TDK and upcoming films. Here is the link! http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15021.html Enjoy!
Just pulled this off of the IMDB Dark Knight website.
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Wow. Just wow. And I thought Batman Begins was excellent. This... this piece of art... its PHENOMENAL!! From the scale, to the acting, the atmosphere, the music, the action, it's all art. I have not experienced this level of greatness in the cinema for a long time. This film is the darkest Batman, as well as one of the darkest, violent and gripping films, ever made.
I'll start off with the actors. Christian Bale has done a tremendous job as our beloved Caped Crusader, who has a flawed personality that hangs on the balance between righteous and crazy. His perception of justice causes an emotional and personal shift, whether he is a rich guy who fights crime in a suit or just a regular guy who is sick of all the injustice in Gotham City and decides to give the psychopaths a dose of their own medicine. Because of this, and Bale's tremendous acting, the Bruce Wayne character is justified, and we, the audience, emphasizes with Bale's flawed hero more than Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George (shudder) Clooney, Kevin Conroy, or God forbid Adam West, ever will. If there was an excellent Batman, this is the real deal. The theme of righteousness and insanity is played well with his character here.
But of course, the real star of the show is the late and great Heath Ledger, who steals almost every scene he's in as the villainous Joker (Nicholson, step aside). This Joker is not like the other renditions; he is the best. Downright evil, corrupt, insane, psychotic, terrifying. In every sense of those aforementioned words. More scary than funny, he shows audiences the Joker is undoubtedly Batman's most nefarious foe and his perfect nemesis, challenging him all the way. With a cynical smile, he proclaims in a scene where Batman is a freak to the public, like the Joker himself. This also explains the balance of righteousness that Bruce Wayne is going through. The Joker is downright evil, and Ledger makes this performance legendary. I agree with the critics, sign me up for the petition where he deserves a posthumous Oscar win.
The rest of the cast is excellent and star-studded. Aaron Eckhart does his Harvey Dent/Two-Face character justice, with a strong sense of righteousness/betrayal/twistedness up his sleeve, as well as Bruce Wayne's rival in love. His acting is strong here. Maggie Gyllenhaal is a great replacement for Katie Holmes as Wayne's love interest Rachel Dawes, as she shows more sensitive and caring side towards Bruce, other than Holmes' nearly flat performance. Michael Caine as Bruce Wayne's loyal butler Alfred delivers, as well as Morgan Freeman as the CEO of Wayne Enterprises. Gary Oldman does an excellent portrayal of Lt. James Gordon, who aids Batman in his quest for justice. And a special mention goes to Eric Roberts as a crime lord, who surprisingly does a great acting job. The rest of the cast can take a bow, they can be proud of their being in this film.
The cinematography is possibly the most sublime scenes ever chosen. Gotham and Hong Kong are wide, and yet, there is this dark aura of crime and corruption all around them. It really blends in well with the film, giving it a distinct and unique look. Quite simply, this is the best Gotham city in any Batman rendition. Wally Pfister has done an excellent job.
To accompany the atmosphere is the tremendous music score by movie music maestros, James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer. With talents like these, the score is unforgettable. It is tension-building at times, and throbbing and glorious yet dark/moody during others. It deserves an Oscar.
The very loyal screenplay is written very, very well by Jonathan Nolan (director's brother), who has done a masterful job. The characters are (pardon the pun) rich in character and the story has not a flaw in it. For a comic book film adaptation, this film is not at all fantasy-like. It is quite realistic in a way and this is what gives the film more credibility. Also, the fact that the script is realistic is unbelievable, as you expect a superhero film when you walk in the cinema, and walk out realizing you have just seen an epic crime saga. Yes, CRIME SAGA. It deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence with "GoodFellas", "Heat", "The Untouchables" and even "The Godfather". I kid you not, this film has the power. The fact that this is an epic is further proved by the film's length - 2 hours and 32 minutes. Yes, it's that long. But it goes by so fast because you end up wishing for more.
But of course, none of this is possible without the genius that is the other Nolan, director Christopher. As per Memento, he knows how to direct a film. The dramatic scenes are engaging and the action sequences are crisp, thrilling, and will blow you out of your seat. Nolan's direction is tense, whip-smart, kinetic and smart. All of the action sequences are realistic, "boombastic", and CGI is used only when necessary (Steve Spielberg and George Lucas, take note). The new vehicle and some gadgets look cool and stylish and do not take away the film's credibility and realism. There are a lot of action sequences to boot, some of them combining themes from above. You will have to see them to believe them. The brothers Nolan have done it again.
In short, it's a masterpiece. One that will knock you out of your seat. It is the best Batman film ever, the best superhero film ever and the best film of 2008 thus far. If there ever was a possibility of a summer film winning Best Picture at the Oscars (like Titanic and Lord Of The Rings), this will join their ranks. It is rightfully deserved. Do yourselves a favor and see this piece of art. Repeated viewings highly recommended.
[Show spoiler]memorial was to hide his becoming evil and falling, and to save the image of Harvey for Gotham, and allow Batman to become the villain and take the blame instead of Harvey.
But that doesn't mean that he isn't
[Show spoiler] dead. He did not look alive, and did not appear to be breathing to me. But it is possible he is alive. They left this open ended for interpretation, but it could work either way. Personally I think he died cause if the are going to have a memorial for him, half of his face still looks like him and it would be hard enough to hide that in the asylum. People might figure that out. But I guess we'll see next movie.
Well Scarecrow, Carmine Falcone and Ras Al Gul should call count as baddies from Begins. The bad guys just don't team up like Schumacher had them do. The formula is in the Nolan Batman films. The bad guys do not die, and Batman is alone at the end. That is the formula to these films.
umm...from one point of view...Falcone and the Scarecrow worked for Ras Al Gul...so that is teaming up.
in TDK,.. the Joker rounds up all of the 'heads' of the mob to team up against Batman.
i read somewhere on this board that the finals number could be off by $5 million. either under or above. so it could end being more than the estimate or less than the less. if it's less than it may not break the record. today's numbers should put things in focus. either way it did fantastic. nothing can take that away. now it's got to fight to stay on top for the next couple of weeks.
Ohhhh I hope SO bad that's it's not under...This movie was amazing unlike Spider 3 which was a piece of crap..thrown together with a crappy & boring love story...the aunt is so F'n annoying(no one needs a 5hr play-by-play of you getting engaged on a beach in the 16th century) Toby was corny dancing down the street...I can go on!! just dumb movie doesn't deserve a top 1000 opening record.
umm...from one point of view...Falcone and the Scarecrow worked for Ras Al Gul...so that is teaming up.
in TDK,.. the Joker rounds up all of the 'heads' of the mob to team up against Batman.
Oh...and Ras Al Gul dies.
Ras Al Gul "dies", but in the comics, he is brought back many times. He is immortal. I don't know if they will touch upon that in these, I fully expect him to remain dead, but who knows.
umm...from one point of view...Falcone and the Scarecrow worked for Ras Al Gul...so that is teaming up.
in TDK,.. the Joker rounds up all of the 'heads' of the mob to team up against Batman.
Oh...and Ras Al Gul dies.
I see what you are saying. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of "You and me will devise this incredibly complex plan that can be simply undone. After we succeed, we will be [rich, famous, power], if it wasn't for Batman".
You are right. It just isn't the working together in the same way as Schumacher's Crapfests...er...films.
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Ras Al Gul "dies", but in the comics, he is brought back many times. He is immortal. I don't know if they will touch upon that in these, I fully expect him to remain dead, but who knows.
The movies treat Ras Al Gul as an idea, ideas are immortal. Trying to explain the Lazareth Pit would be very tricky. Ras Al Gul is the leader of the League of Shadows, whoever is leading the LOS, is Ras.
Ras Al Gul "dies", but in the comics, he is brought back many times. He is immortal. I don't know if they will touch upon that in these, I fully expect him to remain dead, but who knows.
I highly doubt it. These movies are grounded in reality (more than any other superhero movie that is).
Ras Al Gul could return as another man taking on the name to lead the League of Shadows...but not THE Ras Al Gul (Liam N.)
Just pulled this off of the IMDB Dark Knight website.
Reason #1 why kids should not be taught how to use the internet:
All of the LOTRs were released in December genius
I thought everything he said up until saying that LOTR and Titanic coming out in the summer was good. Also, I wouldn't categorize this film as a crime drama. Not in the least.
I thought everything he said up until saying that LOTR and Titanic coming out in the summer was good. Also, I wouldn't categorize this film as a crime drama. Not in the least.
"Delton" is not a professional critic. Reading it, I thought it was obvious that he saw the movie, then went home right away and wrote the review. I just thought it was a little high-school level meets fanboy.
Did Bruce Wayne kill Ras, and Liam N's character took over the name...or...was he more of a decoy and a trick Liam N's character was playing to see if he could trust Bruce?......
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