Shocking affirmation by Naughty dog

[Charles3669]

Originally Posted by AliceT

True, but the point is, people on the ps2 have said X game is only using 20% blah blah. Well, then wheres the game that looks AMAZINGLY BETTER and is using close to 100%? ALso, why doesnt anyone call out naughty dog and say, why did you only do 30% of the work then and release a game that was sub par if you truly think you only got 30% out of it? Thats kind of like going to your boss and saying " Yeah i finished it, but you only got 30% of the work out of me that you could have"

Well we really didnt see how awesome the PS2 was until several games at the end came out when we switched over to PS3. And acheiving 100% is so very hard to do. You have to experiment with and use the bluray and the PS3s processors for quite a while before you can really utilize them. Its not like the PS3 comes out and right out of the gate all the devs are using it to its full potential because they themselves are finding the potential and then later advancing on it through further games. And the cost of screwing around beyond what you already know you can do would be tremendous. Despite the fact that 30% was used for Uncharted that 30% is far more than anyone else has used and it will just continue to grow as time goes on and devs realize and come up with new ideas. Some games just dont need 100% and when a dev comes up with an idea that becomes a game that will take massive ammounts of new stuff, graphics, AI and so on the power is unlocked even further. But since Naughty Dog makes games I would say they know pretty well what they used and how much more can be accomplished.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

It's that simple.

Apparently not for some .. comprehension problems as usual when it comes to the PS3. CPU utilization via profiling tools etc are all figments of peoples imagination as well...they don't really exist.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by air_max

if a game uses 100% of the system, wouldn't it be unable to perform any other functions? (i.e. stay logged into playstation network, in game XMB, etc. etc.)

No. For example, one of the SPU's is reserved by the OS so that certain system functions can be maintained/available at times...so the 100% is relative to what devs have available as resources.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by AliceT

right here. I love hearing things like this , as far as a percentage goes. Theres no way to know what the percentage is in real life. They can guess, but to say it only uses 30% is only a guess on his part. People said the same thing about EVERY other system out there. Ive never seen proof of it.

See the post right above your last one (post #12). That should help you out.

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Apparently not for some .. comprehension problems as usual when it comes to the PS3. CPU utilization via profiling tools etc are all figments of peoples imagination as well...they don't really exist.

Apparently...

[BillCable]

Originally Posted by Cyorg

We'll probably see things like better AI, physics, and more action on screen, with a slight graphical improvement.

I don't know if I want better AI in Uncharted 2. Those pirates could be some real tenacious and sneaky bastards.

[ckenisell]

So, does anyone think that Uncharted 2 will have a totally different theme? Like it's not going to be jungle/treasure based? Perhaps less Indiana Jones-like? Or do you think they'll stick to their roots and make it very similar to the first with improvements on quality?

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

So, does anyone think that Uncharted 2 will have a totally different theme? Like it's not going to be jungle/treasure based? Perhaps less Indiana Jones-like? Or do you think they'll stick to their roots and make it very similar to the first with improvements on quality?

I hope it takes a different theme. I mean, the first one was great but change can sometimes lead for the better too you know.

[player2006911]

Originally Posted by AliceT

True, but the point is, people on the ps2 have said X game is only using 20% blah blah. Well, then wheres the game that looks AMAZINGLY BETTER and is using close to 100%? ALso, why doesnt anyone call out naughty dog and say, why did you only do 30% of the work then and release a game that was sub par if you truly think you only got 30% out of it? Thats kind of like going to your boss and saying " Yeah i finished it, but you only got 30% of the work out of me that you could have"

That's the worst comparison i've seen in a long time. So your saying that if you start out a new job, that, your gonna automatically know everything about the job? Correct? If so I think I could use you for my Business so I can just stay home and let you run it!Maybe naugthy Dog Has a better handle on there code then they did a year ago. Who knows? But to say that they did'nt "try" to hit higher than 30% on the code they had is just ignorant.

[ckenisell]

Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

I hope it takes a different theme. I mean, the first one was great but change can sometimes lead for the better too you know.

Yeah, I'd like to see it go in a different direction too. I know they are supposed to be adding a lot of underwater effects, so maybe they'll have some deep sea treasure seeking or something. Maybe some "Behind the Scenes" HD footage of Emily Rose doing the voice over work for Elena Fisher...preferably, in the nude. I mean...um...did I just type that out loud just now?

But seriously, hopefully they will explore the "relationship" between Elena and Nathan a little further.

[ckenisell]

Originally Posted by player2006911

That's the worst comparison i've seen in a long time. So your saying that if you start out a new job, that, your gonna automatically know everything about the job? Correct? If so I think I could use you for my Business so I can just stay home and let you run it!Maybe naugthy Dog Has a better handle on there code then they did a year ago. Who knows? But to say that they did'nt "try" to hit higher than 30% on the code they had is just ignorant.

Plus, it's not about how much of the PS3's power was tapped into, it's about the gaming experience as a whole. Above that, it's actually about how much volume is sold and I'd say that Uncharted has done VERY well for Naughty Dog.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

Yeah, I'd like to see it go in a different direction too. I know they are supposed to be adding a lot of underwater effects, so maybe they'll have some deep sea treasure seeking or something. Maybe some "Behind the Scenes" HD footage of Emily Rose doing the voice over work for Elena Fisher...preferably, in the nude. I mean...um...did I just type that out loud just now?

But seriously, hopefully they will explore the "relationship" between Elena and Nathan a little further.

What? Rofl!

Anyway, good idea on the underwater. That's something Nathan didn't do in the first one so it would be really really cool to see that in the second one.

[AliceT]

Originally Posted by player2006911

That's the worst comparison i've seen in a long time. So your saying that if you start out a new job, that, your gonna automatically know everything about the job? Correct? If so I think I could use you for my Business so I can just stay home and let you run it!Maybe naugthy Dog Has a better handle on there code then they did a year ago. Who knows? But to say that they did'nt "try" to hit higher than 30% on the code they had is just ignorant.

I'm ignorant? I direct your attention to this thread, which proves which of the two of us is "ignorant" and a liar.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=55760

[tacoreed]

I think that every sytem that has come out to date since the N64 has made those same claims. Like Mario 64 was only supposed to utilize 40% of the N64's potential. I've heard that claim almost from every system since then, including the PS2, and disregard it.

[Blu-Generation]

Originally Posted by tacoreed

I think that every sytem that has come out to date since the N64 has made those same claims. Like Mario 64 was only supposed to utilize 40% of the N64's potential. I've heard that claim almost from every system since then, including the PS2, and disregard it.

That's what I was trying to say earlier in this thread, does it matter what percentage they use?

We have eyes, if Uncharted 2 come out and the graphics, sound, gameplay, etc are WAY better than the first one, then what does the percentage matter? We want satisfaction and quality product, forget the percentage, it's really not that big of a deal.

Again, I'm not saying NG lie, maybe they did use only 30 percent of PS3 power for Uncharted.
Why argue if they did or didn't? When in the end it all boils down to improvement in gaming quality.

[Count Zero]

Regardless of the percentage of the processor being used at any given time, it is still a fact that it takes time to understand how to make the best use of each machine. For instance, take an early PS2 game such as Devil May Cry. Now compare it to a later PS2 game such as God of War 2. Huge difference. Both are great games, but it's clear in GoW2 they knew just how to make the PS2 reach its full potential.

[tacoreed]

Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

That's what I was trying to say earlier in this thread, does it matter what percentage they use?

We have eyes, if Uncharted 2 come out and the graphics, sound, gameplay, etc are WAY better than the first one, then what does the percentage matter? We want satisfaction and quality product, forget the percentage, it's really not that big of a deal.

Again, I'm not saying NG lie, maybe they did use only 30 percent of PS3 power for Uncharted.
Why argue if they did or didn't? When in the end it all boils down to improvement in gaming quality.

+1. Let's actually see the other 60% utilized.

[player2006911]

Originally Posted by AliceT

I'm ignorant? I direct your attention to this thread, which proves which of the two of us is "ignorant" and a liar.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=55760

*SIGH* you truly are an idiot, you called me 15 I told you I was 20. It's because of morons like you that lots of people cease to come here. MY birthday is Nov 13 1987. When I turned 18 back in 05 They let me take over one of the business with ALL of the earnings coming my way, the contract is still in there names . Hell you don't have to believe me I don't care because at the end of the day I still have more then you.

[AliceT]

Originally Posted by player2006911

*SIGH* you truly are an idiot, you called me 15 I told you I was 20. It's because of morons like you that lots of people cease to come here. MY birthday is Nov 13 1987. When I turned 18 back in 05 They let me take over one of the business with ALL of the earnings coming my way, the contract is still in there names . Hell you don't have to believe me I don't care because at the end of the day I still have more then you.

Eh, im not gonna get into it, but if you read that post, everything you need to know is in there. Although for you to say you have "more than me", well, you dont know me or what I do, so id have to say you are most likely wrong. But, I dont see how its very mature to go around and say that anyway (which you have done multiple times to multiple people).

[richieb1971]

When a developer says a game uses X% of the systems power, they are saying their coding techniques are not tapping 100% into the resources available. But saying that, a game is structured around an idea, not around a system ideal.

Lets say its a racing game. At the start of the race there is 32 cars on screen screeching off the starting line with 100% of the power used. 6 laps later your half a lap in front of the pack and none of the cars are drawn on screen, now your only using 50% of the power of the PS3. So what do you do with the other 50%? If you tell the system to draw double resolution textures and suddenly you crash and 9 cars going flying passed, its going to bring the system to a halt.

If your playing God Of War 3 and the coders can control every aspect of the fights, when enemies respawn etc, then of course you create a rule in the game where you know the maximum power is going to be reached, then you stop respawning.

To program a game that uses 100% of a systems power most of the time could be a life long project. It depends on the type of game and how much control the developer is willing to give you.

[Charles3669]

Originally Posted by AliceT

Eh, im not gonna get into it, but if you read that post, everything you need to know is in there. Although for you to say you have "more than me", well, you dont know me or what I do, so id have to say you are most likely wrong. But, I dont see how its very mature to go around and say that anyway (which you have done multiple times to multiple people).

Agreed AliceT. Now this thread is about the power of the PS3 in relation to Uncharted and not about how much that guy makes. Seriously if your worth so much you dont brag about it. Odds are is that this guy is a liar. Dont sweat it Alice just ignore it. Now I do disagree with you on your views about the power of the PS3 Alice. Look at games that came out near the end of the PS2, and I know that PS2 is still going, but im talking about a year to a year and half before the PS3 came out. Look at Final Fantasy 12 and God of War 2 both looking better than anything really done on PS2. Now in a few years you will see games that will blow uncharted out of the water if not sooner such as killzone and God of War 3 but even after that there is immense progress to be made.