My HDMI wire quality? - Blu-ray Forum

SilverBullet007 · 09-09-2008, 09:06 AM

Hey guys, I've owned my Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR2 for the past 2 years now, and I thought the quality of the picture was fine when it came to Blu-ray's until I got Transformers... Now hear me out, I know the reviews are all 5/5 and one of my friends owns it as well and says its flawless. But when I watch it on my setup all the blacks are, well, not BLACK. They've got a hint of blue in them, and very grainy. But when it comes to games, obviously the picture is flawless. I'm really hoping it's not my TV.

I was thinking, can the problem be my HDMI wire? When I bought my PlayStation back in Dec of '06 I also bought a Monster HDMI 300 wire for $99, yeah not cheap. My theory is that maybe my wire is out dated. Now I know I can just borrow my friends wire and check it out, but It'll take a few days 'til he comes over and we can try it. Can anybody here give me any suggestions please, I'd really appreciate it.

Kinslayer · 09-09-2008, 09:13 AM

Highly doubt its your HDMI since it'll either work or not work at all. Most likely your settings. Go to Tweaktv.com and see if you can find your TV there for best settings unless you want to pay to get it calibrated.

WriteSimply · 09-09-2008, 09:15 AM

Firstly, wrong thread. This is hardware discussion.

Secondly, it's not the HDMI. So long as you can see video, it's working. HDMI is a cable that delivers digital signal; if the signal is lost, you get nothing.

The problem is you have not calibrated your TV and set the PS3 accordingly. Look up PS3 settings discussion and use selected Disney's BDs (and get the glasses from their website) to calibrate.

fuad

arush5268d · 09-09-2008, 11:26 AM

Okay, so it's not a HDMI 'wire.' It's a 'cable.' It's composed of many strands and bundles of wires.

Don't ever buy another Monster HDMI cable, unless you just enjoy pissing away your money.

Also, LCDs have never been accused of having the deepest blacks. But as was just mentioned...calibrate.

My_Two_Cents · 09-09-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arush5268d

Okay, so it's not a HDMI 'wire.' It's a 'cable.' It's composed of many strands and bundles of wires.

Don't ever buy another Monster HDMI cable, unless you just enjoy pissing away your money.

Also, LCDs have never been accused of having the deepest blacks. But as was just mentioned...calibrate.

+1 Beat me to it!

1) Buy a cable from Monoprice (just to prove to yourself that it's not the cable)
2) Sell your overpriced Monster cable on eBay to some other sucker willing to pay for the name
3) Calibrate your set properly. You will never have "deep blacks" on an LCD, but you should be able to get them better than what you have.

blujacket · 09-09-2008, 11:59 AM

I say your "contrast" or "picture" setting is too high.

DrXym · 09-09-2008, 04:19 PM

An HDMI cable either works or it doesn't. The digital signal either gets from one end to the other or it doesn't. There is absolutely no way for the wires in the cable to affect the payload encoded in the digital signal aside from failing to carry the signal properly.

You will get exactly the same image and sound quality from a functioning HDMI cable costing $4 as one costing $100. Pictures and sound are not enhanced in any way whatsoever by using an expensive cable. Monster cables are just a ripoff.

SoCalTiger · 09-09-2008, 04:34 PM

Have you calibrated your TV?

DeeChizzle · 09-09-2008, 04:41 PM

As everyone already stated it's not your HDMI cable. For future reference you can buy an $8.00 HDMI cable that will perform just as well as your $99 Monster HDMI cable.

Also don't let anyone fool you into thinking that there isn't any grain in Transformers. There are some scenes in the movie where grain is present and it should be there regardless if your LCD is calibrated correctly or not.

Deadset · 09-09-2008, 04:50 PM

what they said, digital signals can degrade over distance, but you probably don't have a 50' run or anything like that...

But, what you need to do is sit down with your tv manual and go through the settings for contrast, brightness, etc. Play with the pre-programmed ones as well.

It's also important to have a 2nd person there, I've always found it good to bounce thoughts off of them on how to get the picture to look good, and it's good for a second opinion.

Spend some time with it, if it takes an hour or so, it'll be worth it in the long run.

GGX · 09-09-2008, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBullet007

My theory is that maybe my wire is out dated.

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SoCalTiger · 09-09-2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeChizzle

Also don't let anyone fool you into thinking that there isn't any grain in Transformers. There are some scenes in the movie where grain is present and it should be there regardless if your LCD is calibrated correctly or not.

Wait until he sees 300! Then he will REALLY need to upgrade his HDMI cable.

N2TrAnC3 · 09-10-2008, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBullet007

Hey guys, I've owned my Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR2 for the past 2 years now, and I thought the quality of the picture was fine when it came to Blu-ray's until I got Transformers... Now hear me out, I know the reviews are all 5/5 and one of my friends owns it as well and says its flawless. But when I watch it on my setup all the blacks are, well, not BLACK. They've got a hint of blue in them, and very grainy. But when it comes to games, obviously the picture is flawless. I'm really hoping it's not my TV.

I was thinking, can the problem be my HDMI wire? When I bought my PlayStation back in Dec of '06 I also bought a Monster HDMI 300 wire for $99, yeah not cheap. My theory is that maybe my wire is out dated. Now I know I can just borrow my friends wire and check it out, but It'll take a few days 'til he comes over and we can try it. Can anybody here give me any suggestions please, I'd really appreciate it.

Try turning the backlighting down on your panel. Its been awhile since I played around with that television at my work (its a 3 year old set.) If its an option lowering the backlighting will help to give you a blacker black.

ryoohki · 09-10-2008, 03:20 AM

Well TF was grainy in Cinema, and it should on Blu-ray... otherwise they played with the picture witch is a no-no for me ...

JasonR · 09-10-2008, 03:22 AM

I have a KDL-40V2500, which is pretty much an XBR2 without the bezel. I know in my case calibrating my television helped out a great deal. Start by at least turning your sharpness and backlight down....

Themoth · 09-10-2008, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blujacket

I say your "contrast" or "picture" setting is too high.

Big Daddy · 09-10-2008, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBullet007

Hey guys, I've owned my Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR2 for the past 2 years now, and I thought the quality of the picture was fine when it came to Blu-ray's until I got Transformers... Now hear me out, I know the reviews are all 5/5 and one of my friends owns it as well and says its flawless. But when I watch it on my setup all the blacks are, well, not BLACK. They've got a hint of blue in them, and very grainy. But when it comes to games, obviously the picture is flawless. I'm really hoping it's not my TV.

I was thinking, can the problem be my HDMI wire? When I bought my PlayStation back in Dec of '06 I also bought a Monster HDMI 300 wire for $99, yeah not cheap. My theory is that maybe my wire is out dated. Now I know I can just borrow my friends wire and check it out, but It'll take a few days 'til he comes over and we can try it. Can anybody here give me any suggestions please, I'd really appreciate it.

This is what happens when you buy the cheap $100 Monster cable.

You should have bought the 20 meter Audioquest HDMI-3/PVC (CL-3) cable for $2,175.00.

http://www.needledoctor.com/Audioque...&category=1164.

SilverBullet007 · 09-10-2008, 03:51 AM

AWESOME! THANKS TO EVERYONE ON HERE HELPING ME OUT!!!

As you can tell, I really don't know too much about the technical part of it... Now I know all of you are gonna laugh your yers off really bad here but I always though factory pre-sets were the best, LOL! Thanks again guys, off to calibrating I go!

bluskiff · 09-10-2008, 04:02 AM

I just ordered the 4 meter m1000 hdmi monstercable I will know when it comes in if A better quality hdmi cable makes a difference. Right now I am using a ultra800 hdmi monstercable and I know what my sxrd tv looks like. I will know if there in any improvement.

dadkins · 09-10-2008, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by funsocaltiger

Wait until he sees 300! Then he will REALLY need to upgrade his HDMI cable.

I nominate this for post of the year!

09-09-2008, 09:06 AM	#1
SilverBullet007 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:132	My HDMI wire quality? Hey guys, I've owned my Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR2 for the past 2 years now, and I thought the quality of the picture was fine when it came to Blu-ray's until I got Transformers... Now hear me out, I know the reviews are all 5/5 and one of my friends owns it as well and says its flawless. But when I watch it on my setup all the blacks are, well, not BLACK. They've got a hint of blue in them, and very grainy. But when it comes to games, obviously the picture is flawless. I'm really hoping it's not my TV. I was thinking, can the problem be my HDMI wire? When I bought my PlayStation back in Dec of '06 I also bought a Monster HDMI 300 wire for $99, yeah not cheap. My theory is that maybe my wire is out dated. Now I know I can just borrow my friends wire and check it out, but It'll take a few days 'til he comes over and we can try it. Can anybody here give me any suggestions please, I'd really appreciate it.

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09-09-2008, 09:13 AM	#2
Kinslayer Special Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Ottawa, Canada Blu-Ray Steelbooks™: 500+ Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:574 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:81	Highly doubt its your HDMI since it'll either work or not work at all. Most likely your settings. Go to Tweaktv.com and see if you can find your TV there for best settings unless you want to pay to get it calibrated.

09-09-2008, 09:15 AM	#3
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Firstly, wrong thread. This is hardware discussion. Secondly, it's not the HDMI. So long as you can see video, it's working. HDMI is a cable that delivers digital signal; if the signal is lost, you get nothing. The problem is you have not calibrated your TV and set the PS3 accordingly. Look up PS3 settings discussion and use selected Disney's BDs (and get the glasses from their website) to calibrate. fuad

09-09-2008, 11:26 AM	#4
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	Okay, so it's not a HDMI 'wire.' It's a 'cable.' It's composed of many strands and bundles of wires. Don't ever buy another Monster HDMI cable, unless you just enjoy pissing away your money. Also, LCDs have never been accused of having the deepest blacks. But as was just mentioned...calibrate.

09-09-2008, 11:59 AM	#6
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	I say your "contrast" or "picture" setting is too high.

09-09-2008, 04:19 PM	#7
DrXym Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	An HDMI cable either works or it doesn't. The digital signal either gets from one end to the other or it doesn't. There is absolutely no way for the wires in the cable to affect the payload encoded in the digital signal aside from failing to carry the signal properly. You will get exactly the same image and sound quality from a functioning HDMI cable costing $4 as one costing $100. Pictures and sound are not enhanced in any way whatsoever by using an expensive cable. Monster cables are just a ripoff.

09-09-2008, 04:34 PM	#8
SoCalTiger Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Have you calibrated your TV?

09-09-2008, 04:41 PM	#9
DeeChizzle Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:The Last Frontier Blu-ray collection:188 Blu-ray reviews:74 Trading Score:47	As everyone already stated it's not your HDMI cable. For future reference you can buy an $8.00 HDMI cable that will perform just as well as your $99 Monster HDMI cable. Also don't let anyone fool you into thinking that there isn't any grain in Transformers. There are some scenes in the movie where grain is present and it should be there regardless if your LCD is calibrated correctly or not.

09-09-2008, 04:50 PM	#10
Deadset Man in the Box Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Home Theater Gallery:28 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:2478 DVD collection:214 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:52 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:34	what they said, digital signals can degrade over distance, but you probably don't have a 50' run or anything like that... But, what you need to do is sit down with your tv manual and go through the settings for contrast, brightness, etc. Play with the pre-programmed ones as well. It's also important to have a 2nd person there, I've always found it good to bounce thoughts off of them on how to get the picture to look good, and it's good for a second opinion. Spend some time with it, if it takes an hour or so, it'll be worth it in the long run.

09-10-2008, 03:20 AM	#14
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Well TF was grainy in Cinema, and it should on Blu-ray... otherwise they played with the picture witch is a no-no for me ...

09-10-2008, 03:22 AM	#15
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	I have a KDL-40V2500, which is pretty much an XBR2 without the bezel. I know in my case calibrating my television helped out a great deal. Start by at least turning your sharpness and backlight down....

09-10-2008, 03:51 AM	#18
SilverBullet007 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:132	AWESOME! THANKS TO EVERYONE ON HERE HELPING ME OUT!!! As you can tell, I really don't know too much about the technical part of it... Now I know all of you are gonna laugh your yers off really bad here but I always though factory pre-sets were the best, LOL! Thanks again guys, off to calibrating I go!

09-10-2008, 04:02 AM	#19
bluskiff Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 23	I just ordered the 4 meter m1000 hdmi monstercable I will know when it comes in if A better quality hdmi cable makes a difference. Right now I am using a ultra800 hdmi monstercable and I know what my sxrd tv looks like. I will know if there in any improvement.

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