Theatre of Blood (1973) (Vincent Price) - Twilight Time - August 16, 2016 - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

yellowcakeuf6 · 10-08-2016, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by #Darren

I have the Arrow release. Twilight Time rarely beat Arrow for quality and extras.

The real insanity is that the Arrow can be had for $11 and change from Amazon.uk while the TT will cost you almost 20 bucks more for less extras.

The Batman Professor · 10-21-2016, 02:35 AM

It's our 20th anniversary, and I just got this from my wife, and loving the PQ. Audio is a bit muddy at times, but really, an ECO CASE???

Monterey Jack · 10-21-2016, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batman Professor

...but really, an ECO CASE???

I got one with my TT release of The Other.

They're charging a $30 premium, and they can't even spring for a real case?!

bkfountain · 10-21-2016, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batman Professor

It's our 20th anniversary, and I just got this from my wife, and loving the PQ. Audio is a bit muddy at times, but really, an ECO CASE???

Nice premium product theyre selling.

baheidstu · 10-21-2016, 01:42 PM

FFS, how many times does it have to be explained to some people that it was the manufacturer who switched some releases to eco-cases without Twilight Time's authorization?

Hellhound · 10-21-2016, 02:17 PM

Regardless of whether it was a manufacturer screw up, once TT found out about the issue they should have started throwing in a free replacement case with orders of the title as a gesture of good will.

TT sells their product at premium prices and market it mainly to collectors. The additional cost for them of a replacement case would have been negligible.

baheidstu · 10-21-2016, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

Regardless of whether it was a manufacturer screw up, once TT found out about the issue they should have started throwing in a free replacement case with orders of the title as a gesture of good will.

TT sells their product at premium prices and market it mainly to collectors. The additional cost for them of a replacement case would have been negligible.

Don't be ridiculous. Although they're disliked, there's nothing defective about an eco-case.

MifuneFan · 10-21-2016, 04:00 PM

Booklets and paper inserts are more susceptible to damage in an eco case from personal experience.

baheidstu · 10-21-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Booklets and paper inserts are more susceptible to damage in an eco case from personal experience.

During transit they are. If they arrive unscathed, what's the problem? If they arrive damaged, send it back and get a new one. I hate eco-cases too but to expect Twilight Time to send out a better case because it's a "premium product "is silly. I have several premium product Criterions in flimsy cardboard packaging and I don't expect them to send me plastic cases just because that's what I prefer.

Hellhound · 10-21-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baheidstu

During transit they are. If they arrive unscathed, what's the problem? If they arrive damaged, send it back and get a new one. I hate eco-cases too but to expect Twilight Time to send out a better case because it's a "premium product "is silly. I have several premium product Criterions in flimsy cardboard packaging and I don't expect them to send me plastic cases just because that's what I prefer.

Why should I have to worry about the insert getting damaged every time I have to move and pack up my collection or something accidentally gets pressed against the case? Obviously it's not like people can't order an extra case if they want to but why should they have to spend an extra buck on something that was admitted to be an error when TT already charges an inflated price for their product. If 99% of TT's catalogue comes in non-eco cases then it's not unreasonable to expect a non-eco case when ordering a TT title. Do you really think most collectors don't have a negative opinion of eco cases being used for higher priced titles? Just look at the Vestron Video thread.

baheidstu · 10-21-2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

Why should I have to worry about the insert getting damaged every time I have to move and pack up my collection or something accidentally gets pressed against the case? Obviously it's not like people can't order an extra case if they want to but why should they have to spend an extra buck on something that was admitted to be an error when TT already charges an inflated price for their product. If 99% of TT's catalogue comes in non-eco cases then it's not unreasonable to expect a non-eco case when ordering a TT title. Do you really think most collectors don't have a negative opinion of eco cases being used for higher priced titles? Just look at the Vestron Video thread.

I'm not debating the merits of eco-cases. I dislike them too. I also switch out my eco-cases for non-eco cases. That being said, the eco-cases themselves are not a defective product thus no expectation should be assumed that you will have them replaced for you. Worrying about damage to a piece of paper is your own paranoia and, as such, if it's such a concern then you should be the one to replace the case yourself.

Maikeru64 · 11-07-2016, 04:13 AM

If anyone can make a suggestion.
Since, just me looking into reviews of the qualities of any film.
Which version of this film, Theatre of Blood should I get?
The Twilight Time release or the Arrow release?

baheidstu · 11-07-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maikeru64

If anyone can make a suggestion.
Since, just me looking into reviews of the qualities of any film.
Which version of this film, Theatre of Blood should I get?
The Twilight Time release or the Arrow release?

If you have region free capability, the Arrow release is the better overall package.

Maikeru64 · 11-07-2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by baheidstu

If you have region free capability, the Arrow release is the better overall package.

Ok. And yes, I have an all-region blu-ray player.
And either version of it's Arrow release is all the same? Regular Blu-ray or Steelbook?
Since, I already have two Twilight films already.
When the Wind Blows and The Other.
Both good quality, mainly the latter one.
Since, I hear that Arrow releases have better quality and content.
Like, most of the Mario Bava films released in North America I heard we're crap, and people suggested to get the British Arrow releases instead.
Heck, I got some movies in the UK that never came out on blu-ray here yet.
Either if I head to the England to buy them there, or I could just order them on Amazon or their Amazon site with international shipping (depends on certain items) and get it shipped to Canada.

baheidstu · 11-07-2016, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Maikeru64

Ok. And yes, I have an all-region blu-ray player.
And either version of it's Arrow release is all the same? Regular Blu-ray or Steelbook?
Since, I already have two Twilight films already.
When the Wind Blows and The Other.
Both good quality, mainly the latter one.
Since, I hear that Arrow releases have better quality and content.
Like, most of the Mario Bava films released in North America I heard we're crap, and people suggested to get the British Arrow releases instead.
Heck, I got some movies in the UK that never came out on blu-ray here yet.
Either if I head to the England to buy them there, or I could just order them on Amazon or their Amazon site with international shipping (depends on certain items) and get it shipped to Canada.

If I'm not mistaken, the actual discs are the same on either Arrow version, so it's up to you if you want to spend the extra money just for a steelbook. It's a larger steelbook so it might not only be expensive but also add extra money to the shipping costs.

The Twilight Time is good quality too. I believe the transfer is the same as the Arrow release. The Arrow has a lot more bonus features and a better booklet. So you have to weigh those options out. Overall with the exchange rates, Twilight Time might be the slightly cheaper option?

I'm in the same boat as you. I am also in Canada and am always ordering stuff from Europe or Australia because there's so much not available here. It's both good and bad, because I remember in the past when being able to do that wasn't even an option!

Monterey Jack · 11-08-2016, 01:34 AM

Plus, I don't think the Arrow release has the isolated music track from Michael J. Lewis (which is a GREAT score).

easydreamer · 11-08-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Plus, I don't think the Arrow release has the isolated music track from Michael J. Lewis (which is a GREAT score).

The Arrow blu also lacks the audio commentary by Del Valle.

Dailyan · 05-27-2021, 05:33 PM

Kino Lorber re-release coming September 7th:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=55954

captainsolo · 09-17-2021, 02:41 AM

Looking at specs it seems the new Kino has a very slightly higher bitrate over the Arrow for the feature but is the same master again. I wish the audio would be restored because it doesn't really sound good on the master that dates back to the source used for the non-anamorphic DVD.

The Arrow has great extras so I'm glad I got it a long time ago but doggone it these new Price film Kino commentaries are enticing....wish they'd sell you just the darn track itself as to not buy the same master anew.

ponderingtheuniverse · 10-28-2022, 05:31 PM

The Kino Lorber release of this won a Saturn Award. Its always nice seeing this film get the love and recognition it deserves.

10-21-2016, 02:35 AM	#42
The Batman Professor Special Member Member since: Jul 2016 Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 869 Thanked 2,403 times in 604 posts	It's our 20th anniversary, and I just got this from my wife, and loving the PQ. Audio is a bit muddy at times, but really, an ECO CASE??? Last edited by The Batman Professor; 10-21-2016 at 02:40 AM.

10-21-2016, 01:42 PM	#45
baheidstu Banned Member since: Jun 2012 Posts: 6,804 Thanks: 2,944 Thanked 3,085 times in 1,668 posts	FFS, how many times does it have to be explained to some people that it was the manufacturer who switched some releases to eco-cases without Twilight Time's authorization?

10-21-2016, 02:17 PM	#46
Hellhound Power Member Member since: Aug 2015 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,642 Thanks: 1,507 Thanked 921 times in 505 posts	Regardless of whether it was a manufacturer screw up, once TT found out about the issue they should have started throwing in a free replacement case with orders of the title as a gesture of good will. TT sells their product at premium prices and market it mainly to collectors. The additional cost for them of a replacement case would have been negligible.

10-21-2016, 04:00 PM	#48
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Member since: Mar 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 81,649 Thanks: 18,141 Thanked 173,034 times in 37,197 posts	Booklets and paper inserts are more susceptible to damage in an eco case from personal experience.

11-07-2016, 04:13 AM	#52
Maikeru64 Junior Member Member since: Nov 2013 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 times in 2 posts	If anyone can make a suggestion. Since, just me looking into reviews of the qualities of any film. Which version of this film, Theatre of Blood should I get? The Twilight Time release or the Arrow release?

11-08-2016, 01:34 AM	#56
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since: Oct 2011 Posts: 48,100 Thanks: 60,876 Thanked 52,709 times in 22,568 posts	Plus, I don't think the Arrow release has the isolated music track from Michael J. Lewis (which is a GREAT score).

05-27-2021, 05:33 PM	#58
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Member since: Feb 2015 Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon Posts: 14,826 Thanks: 10,743 Thanked 45,008 times in 9,170 posts	Kino Lorber re-release coming September 7th: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=55954

09-17-2021, 02:41 AM	#59
captainsolo Blu-ray Samurai Member since: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,697 Thanks: 3,989 Thanked 6,264 times in 2,111 posts	Looking at specs it seems the new Kino has a very slightly higher bitrate over the Arrow for the feature but is the same master again. I wish the audio would be restored because it doesn't really sound good on the master that dates back to the source used for the non-anamorphic DVD. The Arrow has great extras so I'm glad I got it a long time ago but doggone it these new Price film Kino commentaries are enticing....wish they'd sell you just the darn track itself as to not buy the same master anew.

10-28-2022, 05:31 PM	#60
ponderingtheuniverse Power Member Member since: Feb 2018 Location: TX Posts: 1,922 Thanks: 3,053 Thanked 2,780 times in 1,026 posts	The Kino Lorber release of this won a Saturn Award. Its always nice seeing this film get the love and recognition it deserves.