Star Trek HD - Blu-ray Forum

jedisinclair · 07-10-2007, 03:19 PM

High Def Digest has an article about Star Trek coming to HD DVD and it doesn't mention Blu-ray yet (which sucks cuz, yeah, I admit it: I'm a Trekkie). ST is Paramount so what gives?

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...s_Revealed/756

ryoohki · 07-10-2007, 03:33 PM

There was a Q&A at CES 2007 in JAN, they mentionned that ST was going to be HD DVD exclusive in 2007...

jedisinclair · 07-10-2007, 03:57 PM

weak!

cajmoyper · 07-10-2007, 03:57 PM

The only reason this excites me is because it is now an inevitably before we see TNG and the movies(including 1-6) in HD. I don't much care for the original series.

sbeney · 07-10-2007, 04:05 PM

I think it has been mentioned elsewhere, but my understanding is that Paramount is to release Star Trek TOS in HD-DVD first, then Blu-Ray (2008?). I'll wait till then, but it will be good to get all things Trek in Blu!

goku3 · 07-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Anyone know why is being released on HD-DVD first? Is it because of the IME thing?

Algernon · 07-10-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ryoohki

There was a Q&A at CES 2007 in JAN, they mentionned that ST was going to be HD DVD exclusive in 2007...

guess I'm gonna convert to HD DVD ...

shadowmoon · 07-10-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ryoohki

There was a Q&A at CES 2007 in JAN, they mentionned that ST was going to be HD DVD exclusive in 2007...

But exclusive in 2007 right, and we are about halfway through 07 now? So there is still a possibility of 08 then?

TheOmegaSoldier · 07-10-2007, 04:15 PM

Somewhere buried in the forums is another thread that talked about this.

i was seriously hoping that the incredible gap between the first announcement and today's was a sign that they were re-evaluating their decision to go hd-dvd first.

come on people 70%/30%

This makes me sad, because i'm still waiting for the matrix which also fell into that black hole of "well it will come to blu eventually". I don't care if they're a month or two apart, but that quickly turns into To be announced.

I'm with Algernon. Star trek is a deal breaker for me, and the second it comes out, i will be eyeing that 360 HD-DVD drive, even though i've already got 2 blu players and quite a collection that i'm supporting.

jedisinclair · 07-10-2007, 04:25 PM

I understand your feelings about jumping onto both formats, but I for one am going to wait... waiting sucks, but it's part of life... lines for example... but I refuse to buy something on HD DVD because I chose to support BD and BD only. Buying both will only prolong this format war. Once it's over, we'll see more things come to the Blu-ray format, I think.

WickyWoo · 07-10-2007, 04:30 PM

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The only reason this excites me is because it is now an inevitably before we see TNG and the movies(including 1-6) in HD. I don't much care for the original series.

The expense of doing TNG in HD would be extreme. With TOS they have 35mm film prints and negatives of each episode. With TNG they would have to go back, locate and rescan every single piece of film, re-edit the episode to match, frame for frame, and then they'd have to redo all the ship shots except the ILM stuff done for the first ep, since most of it was shot on video, and pretty nasty video at that.

I seriously don't think,based on the SpikeTV ratings that the money is there for that kind of revamp, we're probably talking $200 million.

With Babylon 5, SciFi co-financed it for a show that hadn't had much repeat play, while TNG has been played to death for 20 years. If they could do it at the $300,000 or so they're doing TOS for, it may be much more feasible.

JTK · 07-10-2007, 04:32 PM

This is some seriously old news in desperate need of some official updates.

Given the way things are going, I'll be surprised beyond words if they give HD-DVD any kind of exclusivity on something big like Star Trek.

IamNhobdy · 07-10-2007, 04:34 PM

I have patience. I can wait for HDDVD to die before getting stuff like Star Trek and the Matrix & all those Universal movies and NBC shows I love on BD.

TheOmegaSoldier · 07-10-2007, 04:39 PM

Wicky I think your figure is a bit drastic but...it does bring something horrible to mind.

With a tv show that cost a ton to make, and a ton to remaster in HD...I'm sure they'll charge ridiculous prices for the HD sets just like they did for the DVD ones. They sit gathering dust at retail stores. Granted you can get them online for reasonable prices, but every time i go to fry's/best buy, you can pick off a thick layer of dust. That's not because it sucks, it's because noone wants to spend 99.99 plus tax on one season of a show.

MasterXeus · 07-10-2007, 04:52 PM

I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Star Trek The Original Series remastered was going to be DVD/HD-DVD combo Disc. If this is true, I'm guessing that's why HD-DVD will be coming out first. We're going to see Blu-ray in early 2008. (going by the old news)

I agree with TheOmegaSoldier, with no updates since early Jan/Feb 2007, they might be rethinking the release dates. We also haven't heard any updates about Stargate Atlantis Season 1 and that was going to be one of the first shows on Blu-ry.

TheOmegaSoldier · 07-10-2007, 04:55 PM

Just in case you overlooked it, the first link from jedisinclair was a news article dated today about it. I skipped over it at first but it looks like a year went by and they still have no sense.

phloyd · 07-10-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Star Trek The Original Series remastered was going to be DVD/HD-DVD combo Disc.

That is what I heard too.

It will be interesting to see if that pans out.

As it stands I am not sure if they have even aired the eps in HD on TV yet.

MasterXeus · 07-10-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOmegaSoldier

Wicky I think your figure is a bit drastic but...it does bring something horrible to mind.

With a tv show that cost a ton to make, and a ton to remaster in HD...I'm sure they'll charge ridiculous prices for the HD sets just like they did for the DVD ones. They sit gathering dust at retail stores. Granted you can get them online for reasonable prices, but every time i go to fry's/best buy, you can pick off a thick layer of dust. That's not because it sucks, it's because noone wants to spend 99.99 plus tax on one season of a show.

Some of the Star Trek shows DVD have drop in price. Be believed I saw TNG and DSN for 69.99 at my local Bestbuy. I think Walmart had them for cheaper, but that was around Christmas.

WickyWoo · 07-10-2007, 05:13 PM

SRP on the sets is now $79.99/season I believe. I know they can easily be found for $50 each. They just haven't repriced them

TNG has sold the best out of all of them, I know the Voyager and Enterprise sets sold terribly, like an average of 10,000 units in the first year

TNG did exponentialy better, and DS9 did OK. Honestly I think a big problem they had was doing all 7 seasons in 1 year at high prices.

I think the new regime knows that $99 a season is as high as they'll dare go for any HD versions. At least if they're smart. I think they might try as high as $129, but should know that more than that would be suicide. TOS has the benefit of only being 3 seasons after all.

MasterXeus · 07-10-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I think the new regime knows that $99 a season is as high as they'll dare go for any HD versions. At least if they're smart. I think they might try as high as $129, but should know that more than that would be suicide. TOS has the benefit of only being 3 seasons after all.

IF their smart, but I think we could see it for $129.99 easily. After all look at HBO there charging $119.99 (around $90 on Amazon) for a half season of the Sopranos on Blu-ray. If the 2nd half comes out at the same price that’s 239.98 for a whole season, I still can’t believe people bought the first half of the season at that price. WB is playing it smart, Smallville Season 6 is 79.99 (around $55 on Amazon) for a whole season.

07-10-2007, 03:19 PM	#1
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	Star Trek HD High Def Digest has an article about Star Trek coming to HD DVD and it doesn't mention Blu-ray yet (which sucks cuz, yeah, I admit it: I'm a Trekkie). ST is Paramount so what gives? http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...s_Revealed/756

07-10-2007, 04:15 PM	#9
TheOmegaSoldier Member Member since:Apr 2007	Somewhere buried in the forums is another thread that talked about this. i was seriously hoping that the incredible gap between the first announcement and today's was a sign that they were re-evaluating their decision to go hd-dvd first. come on people 70%/30% This makes me sad, because i'm still waiting for the matrix which also fell into that black hole of "well it will come to blu eventually". I don't care if they're a month or two apart, but that quickly turns into To be announced. I'm with Algernon. Star trek is a deal breaker for me, and the second it comes out, i will be eyeing that 360 HD-DVD drive, even though i've already got 2 blu players and quite a collection that i'm supporting. Last edited by TheOmegaSoldier; 07-10-2007 at 04:21 PM.

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07-10-2007, 03:33 PM	#2
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	There was a Q&A at CES 2007 in JAN, they mentionned that ST was going to be HD DVD exclusive in 2007...

07-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#3
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	weak!

07-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#4
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	The only reason this excites me is because it is now an inevitably before we see TNG and the movies(including 1-6) in HD. I don't much care for the original series.

07-10-2007, 04:05 PM	#5
sbeney Junior Member Member since:Jan 2007	I think it has been mentioned elsewhere, but my understanding is that Paramount is to release Star Trek TOS in HD-DVD first, then Blu-Ray (2008?). I'll wait till then, but it will be good to get all things Trek in Blu!

07-10-2007, 04:09 PM	#6
goku3 Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:30	Anyone know why is being released on HD-DVD first? Is it because of the IME thing?

07-10-2007, 04:25 PM	#10
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	I understand your feelings about jumping onto both formats, but I for one am going to wait... waiting sucks, but it's part of life... lines for example... but I refuse to buy something on HD DVD because I chose to support BD and BD only. Buying both will only prolong this format war. Once it's over, we'll see more things come to the Blu-ray format, I think.

07-10-2007, 04:32 PM	#12
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	This is some seriously old news in desperate need of some official updates. Given the way things are going, I'll be surprised beyond words if they give HD-DVD any kind of exclusivity on something big like Star Trek.

07-10-2007, 04:34 PM	#13
IamNhobdy Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Earth..I think...no, wait yeah...I think Blu-ray collection:342	I have patience. I can wait for HDDVD to die before getting stuff like Star Trek and the Matrix & all those Universal movies and NBC shows I love on BD.

07-10-2007, 04:39 PM	#14
TheOmegaSoldier Member Member since:Apr 2007	Wicky I think your figure is a bit drastic but...it does bring something horrible to mind. With a tv show that cost a ton to make, and a ton to remaster in HD...I'm sure they'll charge ridiculous prices for the HD sets just like they did for the DVD ones. They sit gathering dust at retail stores. Granted you can get them online for reasonable prices, but every time i go to fry's/best buy, you can pick off a thick layer of dust. That's not because it sucks, it's because noone wants to spend 99.99 plus tax on one season of a show.

07-10-2007, 04:52 PM	#15
MasterXeus Power Member Member since:Mar 2007	I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that Star Trek The Original Series remastered was going to be DVD/HD-DVD combo Disc. If this is true, I'm guessing that's why HD-DVD will be coming out first. We're going to see Blu-ray in early 2008. (going by the old news) I agree with TheOmegaSoldier, with no updates since early Jan/Feb 2007, they might be rethinking the release dates. We also haven't heard any updates about Stargate Atlantis Season 1 and that was going to be one of the first shows on Blu-ry.

07-10-2007, 04:55 PM	#16
TheOmegaSoldier Member Member since:Apr 2007	Just in case you overlooked it, the first link from jedisinclair was a news article dated today about it. I skipped over it at first but it looks like a year went by and they still have no sense.

07-10-2007, 05:13 PM	#19
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	SRP on the sets is now $79.99/season I believe. I know they can easily be found for $50 each. They just haven't repriced them TNG has sold the best out of all of them, I know the Voyager and Enterprise sets sold terribly, like an average of 10,000 units in the first year TNG did exponentialy better, and DS9 did OK. Honestly I think a big problem they had was doing all 7 seasons in 1 year at high prices. I think the new regime knows that $99 a season is as high as they'll dare go for any HD versions. At least if they're smart. I think they might try as high as $129, but should know that more than that would be suicide. TOS has the benefit of only being 3 seasons after all.

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