Helping a friend, ONKYO 605 & PS3 Settings.

[BTBuck1]

Does anyone have a quick reference to make sure I am connecting this up right.
I am helping a friend get his set up.
So far we have the ps3 set to Bitstream (apperently the ps3 automatically does TrueHD/PCM regardless when it's selected.) But DD & DTS will bitstream. Is this right?
Next up.
What should the receiver be set at? Direct...Neo6, Neutral? Neo6 seems to sound the best.But I am not getting the DD or DTS to light up currently, when those tracks are selected.
Any help would be greatly apprecciated.
Thanks,
Brian

[JTK]

I always go Direct myself.

Sounds like you're doing everything right. Experimenting with Bitstream or PCM won't harm anything, either.

[crackinhedz]

you are correct, even if set to bitstream, the ps3 will force pcm signal for the high definition audio....and bistream signal for standard dolbyd and dts.

[Go Blue]

Originally Posted by JTK

I always go Direct myself.

Sounds like you're doing everything right. Experimenting with Bitstream or PCM won't harm anything, either.

What is the difference between Direct and Neo 6? In Neo 6 the DTS logo lights up, but not in the Direct mode. Does this matter?

[crackinhedz]

Listening Modes: This receiver incorporates a powerful and highly accurate 32-bit DSP processor and a wide variety of listening modes to bring you maximum enjoyment from your audio and video software. The listening modes include:

* Direct: audio from the input source is output directly with minimal processing
* Stereo: sound is output from the front left and right speakers and subwoofer
* Mono: monaural sound is output from the front left and right speakers and subwoofer
* Multi-channel: 7.1-channel analog input
* Dolby Pro Logic II: expands any 2-channel source to 5.1 channels
o Movie
o Music
o Game
* Dolby Pro Logic IIx: expands any 2-channel source to 7.1 channels
o Movie
o Music
o Game
* Dolby Digital: decodes Dolby Digital soundtracks
* Dolby Digital EX: decodes Dolby Digital EX or expands 5.1-channel Dolby Digital sources to 6.1 or 7.1-channels
* Dolby Digital Plus: multi-channel audio format that supports up to 7.1 channels with 48 kHz sampling rate
* Dolby Digital+Neo:6: expands 5.1-channel Dolby Digital sources to 6.1 or 7.1-channels
* Dolby Digital+PLIIx Music: expands 5.1-channel Dolby Digital sources to 6.1 or 7.1-channels
* Dolby Digital+PLIIx Movie: expands 5.1-channel Dolby Digital sources to 7.1-channels
* DTS: decodes DTS soundtracks
* DTS 96/24: decodes high resolution DTS 96/24 soundtracks
* DTS-ES: decodes DTS ES soundtracks
o Discrete
o Matrix
* DTS-HD High Resolution: multi-channel format supporting up to 7.1 channels with 96 kHz sampling rate
* DTS-HD Master Audio: offers up to 7.1 discrete channels of digital audio with 48/96 kHz, up to 5.1 channels with 192 kHz sampling rate
* DTSNeo:6: expands any 2-channel source to 6.1 or 7.1-channels
o Cinema
o Music
* TrueHD: delivers exceptional sound that is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master, unlocking the true high-definition entertainment experience on next-generation discs
* Neural Surround: allows delivery of a more detailed sound stage, with superior channel separation and localization of audio elements for 5.1 or 7.1 multi-channel surround playback
* Onkyo Original DSP Modes
o Mono Movie: suitable for old movies or other mono sources
o Orchestra: for classical or operatic music
o Unplugged: for acoustic instruments, vocals, and jazz
o Studio-Mix: suitable for rock or pop
o TV Logic: adds realistic acoustics to TV shows
o All Ch Stereo: ideal for background music
o Full Mono: all speakers output the same sound in mono
o Theater-Dimensional (T-D): enjoy virtual 5.1 surround with two or three speakers (you can set the virtual surround imaging to Narrow or Wide)

[Go Blue]

So, it looks like Neo would be best when watching standard TV since the audio is usually 2 channel. If you are watching an HD channel with a Dolby Digital audio track on Direct mode, would you not hear the DD track?

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by schultz

So, it looks like Neo would be best when watching standard TV since the audio is usually 2 channel. If you are watching an HD channel with a Dolby Digital audio track on Direct mode, would you not hear the DD track?

No, you should still hear the dolby digital track. Its just being done so "with minimal processing"....meaning its not applying Prologic IIx, EX,Neo...etc You are hearing it "directly" like its output.


I guess for your specific question when using for cable, you may want to set it on:

* Dolby Digital+PLIIx Movie: expands 5.1-channel Dolby Digital sources to 7.1-channels

[Baseball3]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

you are correct, even if set to bitstream, the ps3 will force pcm signal for the high definition audio....and bistream signal for standard dolbyd and dts.

Really, I should set my PS3 to bitstream? I did the auto setup and got 1080p and LPCM. Is this not the preferred setting? On the few movies I have watched I have had only Multi Ch PCM light up. Have all my months of reading posts been for naught? Have I sinned in the eyes of the PS3 church by forsaking bitstreaming for LPCM? Tell me why not LPCM and why bitstreaming. I gather it is because of the earlier posting that the PS3 will force LPCM when available even though bitstreaming is the the chosen setting. Dang, why even have a setting if you do not get it? Isn't that like auto? Is auto a setting? Help a man out!

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by Baseball3

Really, I should set my PS3 to bitstream? I did the auto setup and got 1080p and LPCM. Is this not the preferred setting? On the few movies I have watched I have had only Multi Ch PCM light up. Have all my months of reading posts been for naught? Have I sinned in the eyes of the PS3 church by forsaking bitstreaming for LPCM? Tell me why not LPCM and why bitstreaming. I gather it is because of the earlier posting that the PS3 will force LPCM when available even though bitstreaming is the the chosen setting. Dang, why even have a setting if you do not get it? Isn't that like auto? Is auto a setting? Help a man out!

my comments were made from months ago...I have no clue what I was even thinking then.


For Dolby TrueHD on the PS3 set the player to Linear PCM.

Uncompressed PCM tracks default to linear PCM when played so it does not matter if set to bitstream or LPCM.

For Dts-HD it also does not matter if its on bitstream or LPCM.



Again, with the PS3, you have to have it on Linear PCM to hear Dolby TrueHD....everything else can be set to either bitstream or LPCM.

[mr.hidef]

Has anyone bothered to ask this guy if he is using HDMI?

That is the only way his TRUE HD and DTS HD lights will activate on the Onkyo 605!

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by mr.hidef

Has anyone bothered to ask this guy if he is using HDMI?

That is the only way his TRUE HD and DTS HD lights will activate on the Onkyo 605!

not from a PS3...but thanks for playing.

[RBFC]

The "multi-channel" display on his receiver is showing because the legacy DD and DTS tracks are being decoded (by the PS3) to LPCM before going to the receiver. At least that's the situation with other players in this instance.

Lee

[un4gvn94538]

i have onkyo 705 and keep it at lpcm. it always display multi channel no matter what im hearing be it dts, dd or true hd using hdmi

[Sonny]

Just keep it on LPCM & you should be good