help with DLP - Blu-ray Forum

kong73 · 01-27-2009, 05:21 PM

Hello everyone,
KONG73 here. I'm really in to DLP tvs but i feel like i have a pretty good tv now and i'm happy with the pic. it gives me(check out my profile) but DLP are getting really cheap. the only thing is...what the real deal with this light bulb issue? How long do they really last, can i replace the bulb myself, can i buy the blub someplace? I really should wait til the tv i have dies but i"m on the fence. Can anyone help?

keim kong!

slaizer2000 · 01-27-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kong73

Hello everyone,
KONG73 here. I'm really in to DLP tvs but i feel like i have a pretty good tv now and i'm happy with the pic. it gives me(check out my profile) but DLP are getting really cheap. the only thing is...what the real deal with this light bulb issue? How long do they really last, can i replace the bulb myself, can i buy the blub someplace? I really should wait til the tv i have dies but i"m on the fence. Can anyone help?

keim kong!

Bulbs are like light bulbs. You never know how long they will last and when they will blow out. They give rated # of hours (i think 2-3 years) but you really never know as it is based on how often your TV is on. In addition bulbs dim overtime so even if they don't blow you may find yourself replacing them if they dim prematurely.

Older units required a tech do replalce the bulb. The newer units are modules that you simply unscrew, pull out the unit and slide a new unit in. So it can be done at home by yourself.

Some bulbs cost more than others. I have heard for Mistubishi they runas low as 100 dollars and i have heard some cost as much as 200-400 dollars. Some after market warranties cover the bulbs. I have read some horror stories where bulbs are out of stuck and people have had to wait months to get one. So you may want to keep a spare bulb as a backup in case yours goes just in case your bulb for your TV is on backorder.

The other alternative is to go with LED DLP. Samsung makes these. There is no bulb in it. It uses LED's as the lgiht source. and the LED are supposed to have about 40-60 thousand hours which i think equates to around 7-10 years of normal use. They also will auto adjust the power to the LED over time as the dim. SO they basicallyt have a self checking mechanism in them to ensur ethat they output the same amount of light form the LED over time.

As with any TV there are issues with Samsungs LED TV. I have one and had alot of issue which eventually samsung did get fixed. SOme other users have had theirs replaced several times, with no luck and dropped samsung TV altogther. The orginal Samsung LED models had quite a few problems with them which seemed to have been addressed/fixed now.

But I do like the fact i never have to pay to have to replace a bulb in the unit which is why i went with the LED model. I actually was goign to buy the samsung DLP bulb model,,bought the stand and was about to buy a bulb model when they annoucned the LED models. So I had a nice tv stand for almost a year sitting there without a TV cause i wanted to wait for the LED model.

Although others will tell you Samsung LED models are junk. If you get one that is working or has a problem that gets fixed by samsung and does work. IT is a very nice picture and you get the most size and bang for your buck.

Mistubishi is also coming out with a bulbless model. It uses a laser and is supposed to be on par or better than the Kuro Plasma which is supposed to be the best HDTV out there. Only issue with that is it si going to cost around 7 thousand dollars so it is out of the reach of most peoples budget. But again no bulb to replace.

You can do a google search fo the samsung model if you want to find out more review on it and costs.
hl67a750 for the 67 inch model - I have seen this one sold for around 1500-200 grand
hl61a750 for the 61 inch model- This one i have seen as cheap as 1100 grand

Pelican170 · 01-27-2009, 06:02 PM

The post above is pretty on point. I had a Samsung DLP for a while with a bulb. I had it for about 2 1/2 years and the bulb definately decreases in brightness. They cost around $200 for a new one. If it were me, id go for the LED DLP and ive heard that Mitsubishi DLP's are the way to go...

slaizer2000 · 01-27-2009, 06:17 PM

there also has been some rumors that sammy will be releasing a newer led dlp model this spring/summer. But no info on what changes if any they will make.

The DLP chip in the unti is a Texas Insturment (TI) chip. Its a verison 3 chip. TI came out with a DarkChip4 (DC4) DLP chip. This chip is supposed to have 40% more color gammut and is used in the newer Mitsubishi models.

So you may want to wait till after the newer models from sammy come out if they do. They would be more,,,but at the same time the price on the current 3rd generation models would be lower as well. So you could decide if the higher price on the newer models would be worth the higer cost.

Rovic · 01-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Slaizer pretty much hit everything with his explanation....hes right about the newer models replacing the bulb is as easy as unscrewing a few (2 in my case) screws and sliding in the new one in....mine lasted almost two years so it really depends on the usuage....if you don't think its worth the spending about 200 bucks everytime the bulb goes out, you might want to look at some other tech....but they are getting cheaper and at really good sizes...

DavePS3 · 01-27-2009, 06:30 PM

I find the lamp based DLP's give better detail in the blacks over the other. Just keep a spare lamp or two on hand. Never know when it could burn out, pop or crack but keep it well ventilated and NEVER shut it down without allowing the fan to cool it. To avoid a power failure cooking the lamp, keep it plugged into a UPS of some kind. That way you'll know when the power dies in the house (lamps or indirect lighting along walls) and you can power down the projo the right way.

slaizer2000 · 01-27-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DavePS3

I find the lamp based DLP's give better detail in the blacks over the other. Just keep a spare lamp or two on hand. Never know when it could burn out, pop or crack but keep it well ventilated and NEVER shut it down without allowing the fan to cool it. To avoid a power failure cooking the lamp, keep it plugged into a UPS of some kind. That way you'll know when the power dies in the house (lamps or indirect lighting along walls) and you can power down the projo the right way.

Didn't know that black detail was better on lamp models (never read that anywhere before) so i didn't mention it.
The LED models are supposed to have 40% more gamut than the bulb models. This may mainly be in the colors (r/g/b) as opposed to black though.

kong73 · 01-27-2009, 08:11 PM

where would i find blubs? i live in nyc. can you get them at electronic stores? i really like mitsubishi more than samsung. what about you guys? how is your mit. or sam treating you these days?
and thanks everyone

keim kong

Pelican170 · 01-27-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kong73

where would i find blubs? i live in nyc. can you get them at electronic stores?

you can get them thru samsung i believe... i used to know a link. let me see if i can find it...

Edit: here's one site, and im sure you can google and find many more...

https://www.interlight.biz/default.int

Rovic · 01-27-2009, 08:24 PM

I get them from:
http://www.mitsuparts.com/

Enter model # and viola....if you want cheaper alternative there are third party by googling, but careful cause some will try to sell you the bulb by itself, i was going to do that until i noticed that the housing (where the bulb rests) doesn't open and i have to get the bulb and housing assembled...so be sure to check what type of housing on the model your are interested in uses...also the link i gave you is from mitsubishi so they'll sell you the whole thing assemble...

PaulGo · 01-27-2009, 08:47 PM

Don't count on any new DLP models from Samsung. At CES they announced the current sets would be the last ones made.

Bulbs with the housing run $150 from Samsung parts. You can just buy the bulb and put it into your existing housing for about $100.

kong73 · 01-27-2009, 09:22 PM

thanks paul...so is it safe to say that a DLP upgrade would be a good by? like i stated before i've always wanted a DLP..my old sony is doing me well right now but the low $$$ dlp's keep calling me. i know i have a very old model too( about 5 to 6yrs). i just want to make the best possible buy.

PaulGo · 01-28-2009, 12:01 AM

I thought the value of the Samsung HL61A750 was so fantastic I just purchased one! (I gave my old HLN617 to my son.) The store I purchased it from (Crutchfield) is sold out but Amazon still has some units at a great price.

01-27-2009, 05:21 PM	#1
kong73 Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New York City Home Theater Gallery:318 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:600 DVD collection:76	help with DLP Hello everyone, KONG73 here. I'm really in to DLP tvs but i feel like i have a pretty good tv now and i'm happy with the pic. it gives me(check out my profile) but DLP are getting really cheap. the only thing is...what the real deal with this light bulb issue? How long do they really last, can i replace the bulb myself, can i buy the blub someplace? I really should wait til the tv i have dies but i"m on the fence. Can anyone help? keim kong!

01-27-2009, 08:11 PM	#8
kong73 Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New York City Home Theater Gallery:318 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:600 DVD collection:76	where would i find blubs? i live in nyc. can you get them at electronic stores? i really like mitsubishi more than samsung. what about you guys? how is your mit. or sam treating you these days? and thanks everyone keim kong Last edited by kong73; 01-27-2009 at 08:14 PM.

01-27-2009, 08:24 PM	#10
Rovic Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Orange County, CA Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:252 Blu-ray reviews: 1	I get them from: http://www.mitsuparts.com/ Enter model # and viola....if you want cheaper alternative there are third party by googling, but careful cause some will try to sell you the bulb by itself, i was going to do that until i noticed that the housing (where the bulb rests) doesn't open and i have to get the bulb and housing assembled...so be sure to check what type of housing on the model your are interested in uses...also the link i gave you is from mitsubishi so they'll sell you the whole thing assemble... Last edited by Rovic; 01-27-2009 at 08:26 PM.

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01-27-2009, 06:02 PM	#3
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:129 Blu-ray collection:737 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	The post above is pretty on point. I had a Samsung DLP for a while with a bulb. I had it for about 2 1/2 years and the bulb definately decreases in brightness. They cost around $200 for a new one. If it were me, id go for the LED DLP and ive heard that Mitsubishi DLP's are the way to go...

01-27-2009, 06:17 PM	#4
slaizer2000 Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Mooresville, NC 4K collection:67 Blu-ray collection:1117 Trading Score:22	there also has been some rumors that sammy will be releasing a newer led dlp model this spring/summer. But no info on what changes if any they will make. The DLP chip in the unti is a Texas Insturment (TI) chip. Its a verison 3 chip. TI came out with a DarkChip4 (DC4) DLP chip. This chip is supposed to have 40% more color gammut and is used in the newer Mitsubishi models. So you may want to wait till after the newer models from sammy come out if they do. They would be more,,,but at the same time the price on the current 3rd generation models would be lower as well. So you could decide if the higher price on the newer models would be worth the higer cost.

01-27-2009, 06:24 PM	#5
Rovic Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Orange County, CA Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:252 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Slaizer pretty much hit everything with his explanation....hes right about the newer models replacing the bulb is as easy as unscrewing a few (2 in my case) screws and sliding in the new one in....mine lasted almost two years so it really depends on the usuage....if you don't think its worth the spending about 200 bucks everytime the bulb goes out, you might want to look at some other tech....but they are getting cheaper and at really good sizes...

01-27-2009, 06:30 PM	#6
DavePS3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:56 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I find the lamp based DLP's give better detail in the blacks over the other. Just keep a spare lamp or two on hand. Never know when it could burn out, pop or crack but keep it well ventilated and NEVER shut it down without allowing the fan to cool it. To avoid a power failure cooking the lamp, keep it plugged into a UPS of some kind. That way you'll know when the power dies in the house (lamps or indirect lighting along walls) and you can power down the projo the right way.

01-27-2009, 08:47 PM	#11
PaulGo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:North Potomac, MD	Don't count on any new DLP models from Samsung. At CES they announced the current sets would be the last ones made. Bulbs with the housing run $150 from Samsung parts. You can just buy the bulb and put it into your existing housing for about $100.

01-27-2009, 09:22 PM	#12
kong73 Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New York City Home Theater Gallery:318 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:600 DVD collection:76	thanks paul...so is it safe to say that a DLP upgrade would be a good by? like i stated before i've always wanted a DLP..my old sony is doing me well right now but the low $$$ dlp's keep calling me. i know i have a very old model too( about 5 to 6yrs). i just want to make the best possible buy.

01-28-2009, 12:01 AM	#13
PaulGo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:North Potomac, MD	I thought the value of the Samsung HL61A750 was so fantastic I just purchased one! (I gave my old HLN617 to my son.) The store I purchased it from (Crutchfield) is sold out but Amazon still has some units at a great price.

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