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Old 11-17-2018, 03:20 PM   #181
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Does anyone knows if the US or UK 4K edition of "The Meg" has brazilian portuguese subtitles?

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Old 11-17-2018, 03:47 PM   #182
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i checked back the website review in terms of PQ (Michael Reuben) on UHD page he gave UHD 4/5 and gave blu-ray 4.5/5 but on the blu-ray page he gave blu-ray 3.5/5... what the hell...
Two different people reviewed the discs on this site. I think this is the first time I've seen separate reviews for the HDR10 and Dolby Vision versions of a UHD. Looks like the reviews were done by different people and they gave the BDs a different score. But yeah, to add to the confusion Reuben gave different scores to the BD in his reviews.
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:12 PM   #183
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Two different people reviewed the discs on this site. I think this is the first time I've seen separate reviews for the HDR10 and Dolby Vision versions of a UHD. Looks like the reviews were done by different people and they gave the BDs a different score. But yeah, to add to the confusion Reuben gave different scores to the BD in his reviews.
I've watched the 4K twice and the regular blu ray twice and hands down prefer the regular blu. Yes the 4K offers brighter and sharper detail, but I had to adjust the contrast down 75% on my Benq HT-2550 to make it less headache inducing. Have not had this issue with the other 4K titles in my collection and I can't justify adjusting the settings everytime I watch this title in the future.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:32 PM   #184
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Watched THE MEG didnt care for it. Looked and sounded great

Btw anyone else notice lately the smudge marks on discs and I know I never put my prints on them but they seem to come that way brand new like someone is just touching them during the process sometime? It played fine but was kid of annoying since I am going to sell off my copy.

Anyhow listed my steelbook on the selling forum.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:46 PM   #185
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In some scenes it looks better others not so much. I enjoyed the movie. Bought it on BR last night
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:13 PM   #186
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Watched THE MEG didnt care for it. Looked and sounded great

Btw anyone else notice lately the smudge marks on discs and I know I never put my prints on them but they seem to come that way brand new like someone is just touching them during the process sometime? It played fine but was kid of annoying since I am going to sell off my copy.

Anyhow listed my steelbook on the selling forum.
Happens quite frequently with my purchases too. Some folks working in the manufacturing line aren't being careful with the way they handle and package these discs, and leave their finger prints underneath. Worst one I've experienced was one that was permanently marked and couldn't be removed whatsoever. Person must have touched some sort of glue or paint smh. Had to get it exchanged because it wouldn't come off, and I wasn't going to attempt running any discs under hot water like some people have recommended.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:16 PM   #187
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Watched the UHD last night. The contrast is way overblown (it's whacked - there is so much clipping it's just silly).

If you adjust the contrast (white level) down so that whites start to show detail again (all white skies now show clouds and blue areas), lighting on faces look proper, etc, the picture is marvelous.

Very weird....
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:44 PM   #188
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Watched the UHD last night. The contrast is way overblown (it's whacked - there is so much clipping it's just silly).

If you adjust the contrast (white level) down so that whites start to show detail again (all white skies now show clouds and blue areas), lighting on faces look proper, etc, the picture is marvelous.

Very weird....
I watched this last night as well. I didnt think PQ was anything special. Heck, it looked like BD quality to me in fact. AQ was good. That’s as far as my tech input goes haha.

The movie itself was pretty much what I expected. It was fair. I thought the attempt at humor was horrible whenever they tried - pretty cheesy dialogue throughout.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:55 PM   #189
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My copy can't come soon enough.

Not because I'm that desperate in watching it again (saw it in Imax 3D, thought the movie was aight). But with all these comments about the picture being overblown, washed out and too bright, I'm very curious to see how this looks on UHD.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:02 AM   #190
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Some insight into The Meg. This movie's metadata state that MaxCLL is around 1800 when in reality it is closer to 4400. So any display that is using the metadata to tone map will end up with obvious clipping/contrast issues. The frame average on this is one of the highest I've ever seen too, so trying to compress it down will result in issues as well. This title would be served better by displays that ignore the metadata altogether. Even something like the Panasonic UB820 would have issues with this one because it uses the MaxCLL for its tone map, and in this case it is wrong (another recent example of this is Rampage).

If you have a way to make the display ignore the metadata I would suggest that and setup the display to optimize for about 4000 nits.
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Old 11-20-2018, 02:32 AM   #191
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I feel this UHD definitely leans towards DV than HDR10. Already watched it twice, decent entertainment.
first viewing I forgot to flip on DV on my uhd player half way through, and the daytime above-water scenes were pretty overblown: just one massive white space in the background devouring any detail, could barely see the silhouette of the clouds from the sky. Then I switched DV on, and the advantage of scene-by-scene tonal mapping immediately came to help, hence I watched it one more time, I quite enjoyed it.
Overall, I think the "HDR is cryons" guys are going to have a feast with this one
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Old 11-20-2018, 02:42 AM   #192
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I rented the BD and ended up buying a three-pack with Deep Blue Sea, Snakes on a Plane and The Long Kiss Goodnight instead. Have only seen the first two and I already know I made the right decision.

Bingbing Li, the tons of money obviously wasted on set design and effects and finally the end credits Hey Mickey cover (in Thai?) were The Meg's only redeeming qualities.

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Old 11-20-2018, 11:27 AM   #193
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This title would be served better by displays that ignore the metadata altogether.
Finally Samsung's stubbornness pays off!
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:35 AM   #194
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I thought Samsungs mapped to whichever is highest out of MaxMDL or MaxCLL? My telly ignores HDR10 metadata anyway so as I said before: challenge accepted - though not before I can buy this for a price better suited to the schlock therein
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:37 AM   #195
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I thought Samsungs mapped to whichever is highest out of MaxMDL or MaxCLL? My telly ignores HDR10 metadata anyway so as I said before: challenge accepted
Hmmm, I might be getting mixed up on semantics. I know from Vincent Teoh and others that Samsung ignores tone-mapping on discs, but maybe it does do its own mapping using information from the discs's mapping? Oh well, now I has a sad.
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:43 AM   #196
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Hmmm, I might be getting mixed up on semantics. I know from Vincent Teoh and others that Samsung ignores tone-mapping on discs, but maybe it does do its own mapping using information from the discs's mapping? Oh well, now I has a sad.
I wouldn't do a sad. If this has been mastered to 4000/0.005 for the display-level metadata then you'll be fine because - this is if I'm correct, I ain't no Samsung expert - the TV will defer to the higher 4000-nit mastering level (MDL) metadata rather than the 1800-odd MaxCLL that Kris is reporting it has, and as the actual peak brightness of the content is a wee bit over 4000 nits then your TV mapping the 4000-nit 'container' is doing the same job.
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It's a shame to read of the issues with the 4K version. I was planning on picking up both the 3D and the 4K but might skip the 4K due to the feedback.
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I wouldn't do a sad. If this has been mastered to 4000/0.005 for the display-level metadata then you'll be fine because - this is if I'm correct, I ain't no Samsung expert - the TV will defer to the higher 4000-nit mastering level (MDL) metadata rather than the 1800-odd MaxCLL that Kris is reporting it has, and as the actual peak brightness of the content is a wee bit over 4000 nits then your TV mapping the 4000-nit 'container' is doing the same job.
If that is the case then his display should be fine BUT, that also means that it is choosing the worse of the two when it comes to the majority of titles out there. This is definitely a rare case and is actually a great disc for testing displays and tone map solutions given its values (not only the max, but the really high average brightness).
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It's a shame to read of the issues with the 4K version. I was planning on picking up both the 3D and the 4K but might skip the 4K due to the feedback.
Well, issues or no issues, I'll be needing them both regardless (as always).

Good ol' Mario has shipped the UHD while Deep Discount should ship the 3D Blu-ray sometime next week I think.
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Well, issues or no issues, I'll be needing them both regardless (as always).

Good ol' Mario has shipped the UHD while Deep Discount should ship the 3D Blu-ray sometime next week I think.
10th December here in the UK.
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