what's wrong with Sony - Blu-ray Forum

highdef monster · 03-21-2009, 02:42 PM

http:////www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57760
What are they thinking about

prkprkprk · 03-21-2009, 02:43 PM

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Rob J in WNY · 03-21-2009, 02:44 PM

The link. Please fix it.

prkprkprk · 03-21-2009, 02:45 PM

FIXED LINK:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57760

prkprkprk · 03-21-2009, 02:46 PM

I do think its stupid.

quexos · 03-21-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by prkprkprk

FIXED LINK:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57760

Got confirmation of this on a French Video Games site.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2009/0...ements-psn.htm

LoveHomeTheatre · 03-21-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by prkprkprk

I do think its stupid.

+1

Toxa · 03-21-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by quexos

Got confirmation of this on a French Video Games site.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2009/0...ements-psn.htm

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D'après quelques sources anonymes

...

And JV.com is not really a reliable source since MGS Trilogy on 360

brett_day · 03-21-2009, 02:59 PM

with sony about to release info regarding 2 billion in losses, they need to get income from different places

Marquoz · 03-21-2009, 03:54 PM

I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay.

Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

DonRSD · 03-21-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay.

Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

FANTASTIC POINT!!!

Pepelutivruski4 · 03-21-2009, 04:32 PM

the moment i have to pay for PSN, i stop using it.
i prefer to play with myself.
yes, i prefer to play w/ myself.

toef · 03-21-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay.

Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm 100% behind this, but I do agree that I'd rather pay the slight extra fee (assuming that game developers pass the cost down to us), than pay a monthly fee for PSN.

Of course, the best option would be to leave it alone. Don't charge the developers for bandwidth, and don't charge users for using the PSN.

saprano · 03-21-2009, 05:18 PM

I guess thats one of the reason's why MS gets all the DLC.

Marine Mike · 03-21-2009, 05:56 PM

All I care about is being able to play games that I enjoy. If that means that I have to pay a few extra dollars on PSN games, then so be it. Its not like that I purchase a lot of things from the PSN store anyway.

Hopefully this means that companys will be more careful with what they release on the PSN and make sure that they are confident that people will want to purchase it and if its not then make it good enough. Its just disheartening to have to umm 'shift' through the weekly updates to try to find diamonds.

Ascended_Saiyan · 03-21-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay.

Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

That's $.16/Gb for the publishers...not us. We don't have to pay money. It's better for publishers to pay than the people that use the network. After all, that's the advertising cost to market this content to us in the first place! Remember, publishers want OUR money.

EDIT: Plus, it's only for the 1st 60 days of it being on the network.

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Originally Posted by saprano

I guess thats one of the reason's why MS gets all the DLC.

MOST of the DLC...not ALL. I like accuracy.

Marine Mike · 03-21-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

That's $.16/Gb for the publishers...not us. We don't have to pay money. It's better for publishers to pay than the people that use the network. After all, that's the advertising cost to market this content to us in the first place! Remember, publishers want OUR money.

MOST of the DLC...not ALL. I like accuracy.

I think that Marquoz was referring to the publishers raising their prices on the DLC in order to cover their costs. At least thats how I interpretted his statement.

Ascended_Saiyan · 03-21-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine Mike

I think that Marquoz was referring to the publishers raising their prices on the DLC in order to cover their costs. At least thats how I interpretted his statement.

Ok. However, I'm sure Sony is just passing along the cost incurred for the additional network bandwidth. I don't think the publishers should use that to make MORE money off of us. The publishers are already holding back content from the disc to gain more money on the sale of this DLC to us.

Maximus · 03-21-2009, 06:19 PM

I would rather this system and game publishers pass on the cost of bandwidth to the end-user via extra charges on DLC than paying £30 a year for "PSN Gold" or what have you.

In the end it could be that publishers charge more for XBL DLC and PSN DLC to cover their PSN bandwidth costs and Xbox owners will indirectly fund PSN as well as directly funding XBL! So awesome...

highdef monster · 03-21-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay.

Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

It doesn't make sense to pay anything because you already paying for internet to internet provider and then Sony hits you with charge for a bandwith.

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03-21-2009, 02:43 PM	#2
prkprkprk Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:112	"Adress Not Valid"

03-21-2009, 02:44 PM	#3
Rob J in WNY Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:'Western' N.Y. State (MEMBER OF THE "ECPP")™ Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:486 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15	The link. Please fix it.

03-21-2009, 02:45 PM	#4
prkprkprk Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:112	FIXED LINK: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57760

03-21-2009, 02:46 PM	#5
prkprkprk Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:112	I do think its stupid.

03-21-2009, 02:59 PM	#9
brett_day Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Moore, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	with sony about to release info regarding 2 billion in losses, they need to get income from different places

03-21-2009, 03:54 PM	#10
Marquoz Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New Orleans Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:167 Trading Score:2	I'm 100% behind this. I would rather pay a dollar more for DLC then to pay a recurring monthly charge for PSN. Think long and hard which business model you would rather support. A one time minor charge on a download, or a monthly fee even if you don't download any DLC. In the long run, I'm confident that it's cheaper to pay as I go with the DLC then to constantly pay. Since I purchased the PS3, I've only downloaded maybe 4 DLC plus 2 complete games from PSN. So at worst, that's 6 dollars. If I had to pay for PSN at say 10$ a month, I would be over 150$ so far.

03-21-2009, 04:32 PM	#12
Pepelutivruski4 Banned Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:19	the moment i have to pay for PSN, i stop using it. i prefer to play with myself. yes, i prefer to play w/ myself.

03-21-2009, 05:18 PM	#14
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	I guess thats one of the reason's why MS gets all the DLC.

03-21-2009, 05:56 PM	#15
Marine Mike The Busey Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:120 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:4	All I care about is being able to play games that I enjoy. If that means that I have to pay a few extra dollars on PSN games, then so be it. Its not like that I purchase a lot of things from the PSN store anyway. Hopefully this means that companys will be more careful with what they release on the PSN and make sure that they are confident that people will want to purchase it and if its not then make it good enough. Its just disheartening to have to umm 'shift' through the weekly updates to try to find diamonds.

03-21-2009, 06:19 PM	#19
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	I would rather this system and game publishers pass on the cost of bandwidth to the end-user via extra charges on DLC than paying £30 a year for "PSN Gold" or what have you. In the end it could be that publishers charge more for XBL DLC and PSN DLC to cover their PSN bandwidth costs and Xbox owners will indirectly fund PSN as well as directly funding XBL! So awesome...

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