Torn between 2 Model LCD TV's (Sony - Sammy) - Blu-ray Forum

danay82 · 03-26-2009, 11:31 PM

Alrighty folks, I've been going back and forth on this for over a week now. I'm replacing a TV in my study room with either a new model 2009 Sammy or Sony. I've seen both and they look pretty decent.

I've been looking at the KDL40V5100 for Sony. ($1250)

Specs are:

-40-inch 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution
-Dynamic contrast 50,000:1
-Motionflow 120Hz technology
-Seven HD inputs, including four HDMI inputs (up to 1080/60p capable), HD component and combo inputs (1080/60i capable), and a PC input
- Bravia Engine 2

Versus

The Samsung LN40B550 ($950)

Specs are:

-HD-Grade 1920 (H) x 1080 (V) pixel
-Touch of ColorTM (ToC) with a stylish red tone
-Built-in digital tuner: (ATSC/Clear QAM)
-Game Mode
-Wide Color Enhancer2
-Contrast 70,000:1
-6ms Pixel Response

I mainly watch movies and sports, but also watch cable if a decent show is on.

The main reason I've been going back and forth between the two is the Sammy is 60hz while the Sony is 120hz. Which then leads to is $300 bucks more worth it. The Sony does 24p but I can;t recall if the Sammy does or not.

Is a 120hz display worth the extra cost?

(Read other forums and some like, some don't.. I've seen a few, but depending whats playing and motion enhancer setting, the picture looks fake)

SkillzthatKillz · 03-26-2009, 11:42 PM

the sony is gonna handle motion resolution much better becaue its got the 120hz refresh rate and the samsung only has a 6ms response time (which is kinda slow). have you checked these tvs out in person yet?

clownface · 03-26-2009, 11:43 PM

If you're going to add a Blu ray player I say go for the Sony if not Samsung is excellent too. Plus at that price the Samsung is a steal.

danay82 · 03-26-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkillzthatKillz

the sony is gonna handle motion resolution much better becaue its got the 120hz refresh rate and the samsung only has a 6ms response time (which is kinda slow). have you checked these tvs out in person yet?

Yes, I have checked both of them out and they both look decent for the price range.

I was thinking the same thing that you were. The 6ms response time is sort of slow especially being a new 2009 model TV. But then again, this model is somewhat on their lower end line.

danay82 · 03-26-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clownface

If you're going to add a Blu ray player I say go for the Sony if not Samsung is excellent too. Plus at that price the Samsung is a steal.

Yes, I'll have my Blu-Ray player and HD service hooked up to this TV.

Spyder-Dan · 03-27-2009, 05:02 AM

get the Sony especially since you watch sports. the motion enhancer will make sports look GREAT.

SlmShdy1 · 03-27-2009, 05:55 AM

Get the Sony. Just make sure that, if you get it, you turn the motion enhancer off.

Fors* · 03-27-2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyder-Dan

get the Sony especially since you watch sports. the motion enhancer will make sports look GREAT.

+1....the motion enhancer really does provide a nice picture when watching sports. If you watch a lot of sports, then you probably should get the Sony.

BACsader · 03-27-2009, 12:44 PM

Normally I would say get the Sammy, but in this case, I am going to have to agree with everyone else and say go for the Sony. The specs look much better. The only thing I thought was odd is that for a dynamic contrast ratio, the sonys is really low at only 50,000:1. What is its native contrast ratio?

Shadyjapes45 · 04-02-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forsberg21

+1....the motion enhancer really does provide a nice picture when watching sports. If you watch a lot of sports, then you probably should get the Sony.

the motion enhancer is one of those things that you will probably love it in the store, and hate it after ~20hrs of sit down time with it. It takes away so much from the "film" quality of movies.

I will agree that with sports (on some stations) the motion enhancer helps. I like to watch Hockey, but not basketball with it on.

I would say the Sony, you are paying a little more for it, but I think gaining a little more too. The Sammy is a good price though.

steve1971 · 04-02-2009, 11:03 PM

Go with Sony!!!!!!!

SkillzthatKillz · 04-02-2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danay82

Yes, I have checked both of them out and they both look decent for the price range.

I was thinking the same thing that you were. The 6ms response time is sort of slow especially being a new 2009 model TV. But then again, this model is somewhat on their lower end line.

yeah that 6ms response time might produce some unwanted judder and motion artifacts, whereas the sony should handle fast motion very well, plus it will probably have more settings because its a nicer model

steve1971 · 04-02-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkillzthatKillz

yeah that 6ms response time might produce some unwanted judder and motion artifacts, whereas the sony should handle fast motion very well, plus it will probably have more settings because its a nicer model

I hear the V5100 is a nice tv. I saw one for the first time as a matter of fact last night. Tempting for me I will say that until I found out that basically what it is is just an upgrade to the V4100 series. Offers a 50,000:1 contrast ratio, 120hz and 7 HDMI ports and Bravia 2 engine. Very nice I will say that. Maybe next spring for me but thats a long way off.

DH4Me · 04-03-2009, 12:01 AM

Go sony..i have the kdl46xbr2 and love it..the sports are absolutely amazing..no glare when all the blinds are open..i would jump on another xrb series tv in a minute.

brewp13 · 04-03-2009, 12:06 AM

When I was lookling to buy my TV, I went back and forth for a long time with these two brands as well. I decided to base my decision on the quality of these companies other products. Just about everything I have ever bought by samsung has broken in a year or two. On the other hand I have never had any problems with the Sony merchandise I purchased. So I went with the Sony and I love it.

wafi · 04-03-2009, 01:49 AM

Personally I'd go for Sonys over Samsungs any day.

mmunro2003 · 04-03-2009, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

Get the Sony. Just make sure that, if you get it, you turn the motion enhancer off.

I recommend you should keep the motion enhancer on standard then technically you get 60hz with dejudder etc, then you dont get the so called 'soap opera' effect.

Vriess · 04-16-2009, 05:31 AM

Take that extra 300 you were gonna spend on 120hz and get a little better sammy. 120hz is gimmicky imo but the extra dough for a slightly higher model will be well spent(Sammy 650 series equivalent)

Blove23 · 04-16-2009, 03:48 PM

The real question is going to be: Do you have a sound system in that room?
If you have a sound system in that room go with the Samsung, but you don't I would so the Sony. Its that simple! Its no good watching a movie if you can't hear it (Samsung).

KCLARK · 04-16-2009, 05:57 PM

If you plan to play games on it with xbox or ps3 the sony plays them both perfectly. That 550 has an older amp processor which endures lag during gaming. I wish I could find that link over on avs where a member posted a lcd gaming test between the two brands. It was extensive and well written full of detail. End result, was to go with the Sony.

03-26-2009, 11:31 PM	#1
danay82 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Raleigh, NC Blu-ray collection:126	Torn between 2 Model LCD TV's (Sony - Sammy) Alrighty folks, I've been going back and forth on this for over a week now. I'm replacing a TV in my study room with either a new model 2009 Sammy or Sony. I've seen both and they look pretty decent. I've been looking at the KDL40V5100 for Sony. ($1250) Specs are: -40-inch 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution -Dynamic contrast 50,000:1 -Motionflow 120Hz technology -Seven HD inputs, including four HDMI inputs (up to 1080/60p capable), HD component and combo inputs (1080/60i capable), and a PC input - Bravia Engine 2 Versus The Samsung LN40B550 ($950) Specs are: -HD-Grade 1920 (H) x 1080 (V) pixel -Touch of ColorTM (ToC) with a stylish red tone -Built-in digital tuner: (ATSC/Clear QAM) -Game Mode -Wide Color Enhancer2 -Contrast 70,000:1 -6ms Pixel Response I mainly watch movies and sports, but also watch cable if a decent show is on. The main reason I've been going back and forth between the two is the Sammy is 60hz while the Sony is 120hz. Which then leads to is $300 bucks more worth it. The Sony does 24p but I can;t recall if the Sammy does or not. Is a 120hz display worth the extra cost? (Read other forums and some like, some don't.. I've seen a few, but depending whats playing and motion enhancer setting, the picture looks fake)

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03-26-2009, 11:42 PM	#2
SkillzthatKillz Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Cincinnati, OH Blu-ray collection:214 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:1	the sony is gonna handle motion resolution much better becaue its got the 120hz refresh rate and the samsung only has a 6ms response time (which is kinda slow). have you checked these tvs out in person yet?

03-26-2009, 11:43 PM	#3
clownface Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Brooklyn New York	If you're going to add a Blu ray player I say go for the Sony if not Samsung is excellent too. Plus at that price the Samsung is a steal.

03-27-2009, 05:02 AM	#6
Spyder-Dan Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Austin, Tx 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:294 Trading Score:5	get the Sony especially since you watch sports. the motion enhancer will make sports look GREAT.

03-27-2009, 05:55 AM	#7
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	Get the Sony. Just make sure that, if you get it, you turn the motion enhancer off.

03-27-2009, 12:44 PM	#9
BACsader Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Cooper City FL Home Theater Gallery:29 Blu-ray collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:9 Trading Score:1	Normally I would say get the Sammy, but in this case, I am going to have to agree with everyone else and say go for the Sony. The specs look much better. The only thing I thought was odd is that for a dynamic contrast ratio, the sonys is really low at only 50,000:1. What is its native contrast ratio?

04-02-2009, 11:03 PM	#11
steve1971 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Saint Paul Minnesota. 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:352 Blu-ray reviews: 119 Trading Score:1	Go with Sony!!!!!!!

04-03-2009, 12:01 AM	#14
DH4Me Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Vancouver, WA	Go sony..i have the kdl46xbr2 and love it..the sports are absolutely amazing..no glare when all the blinds are open..i would jump on another xrb series tv in a minute.

04-03-2009, 12:06 AM	#15
brewp13 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Louisiana Blu-ray collection:579 DVD collection:21 Blu-ray reviews:33 Trading Score:5	When I was lookling to buy my TV, I went back and forth for a long time with these two brands as well. I decided to base my decision on the quality of these companies other products. Just about everything I have ever bought by samsung has broken in a year or two. On the other hand I have never had any problems with the Sony merchandise I purchased. So I went with the Sony and I love it.

04-03-2009, 01:49 AM	#16
wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	Personally I'd go for Sonys over Samsungs any day.

04-16-2009, 05:31 AM	#18
Vriess Expert Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:S Florida 4K collection:162 Blu-ray collection:780 DVD collection:62 Digital collection:14 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:29	Take that extra 300 you were gonna spend on 120hz and get a little better sammy. 120hz is gimmicky imo but the extra dough for a slightly higher model will be well spent(Sammy 650 series equivalent)

04-16-2009, 03:48 PM	#19
Blove23 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Pittsburgh Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	The real question is going to be: Do you have a sound system in that room? If you have a sound system in that room go with the Samsung, but you don't I would so the Sony. Its that simple! Its no good watching a movie if you can't hear it (Samsung).

04-16-2009, 05:57 PM	#20
KCLARK Member Member since:Jun 2008	If you plan to play games on it with xbox or ps3 the sony plays them both perfectly. That 550 has an older amp processor which endures lag during gaming. I wish I could find that link over on avs where a member posted a lcd gaming test between the two brands. It was extensive and well written full of detail. End result, was to go with the Sony.

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