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Simplayer · 05-17-2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terjyn

You didn't even remotely answer my question.

I'm in no way claiming that the DS isn't worth buying.

I'm asking who the people are who are buying them now, having never done so before, and asking why I literally never see someone browsing the DS section in the Best Buys and Fry's and Targets of the world.

Maybe they are super popular at Toy stores, which I never enter. Maybe some type of store I'm not even thinking of is cranking them out by the dozens. I really don't know.

I would tend to say that the DSi is a non-issue, but I've never been a big fan of console/portable "upgrades"...and don't think I've ever purchased one. Not even a PS or PS2 slim.

Upgrades? Advertising? Obviously something is compelling.

Anecdotes.

Terjyn · 05-17-2009, 01:18 AM

Maybe those advertisements are working, but god I hope not. Can you get more lame than a random has-been celebrity playing with a DS? From watching commercials you wouldn't even really know what a DS was. Just that you can warp your friends face with it or touch it with a stylus.

And saying anecdotes is continuing the tradition of saying nothing. Refute my anecdotes. Do you see people DS shopping all the time? If so maybe I just get unlucky. But if they are selling 1 million DSs, you'd think that I would have seen *SOMEONE* DS shopping in the last month, with the amount of time I spend in tech shops. And yes, this is something I pay attention to, it's kind of an OCD of mine.

Simplayer · 05-17-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terjyn

And saying anecdotes is continuing the tradition of saying nothing. Refute my anecdotes. Do you see people DS shopping all the time? If so maybe I just get unlucky. But if they are selling 1 million DSs, you'd think that I would have seen *SOMEONE* DS shopping in the last month, with the amount of time I spend in tech shops. And yes, this is something I pay attention to, it's kind of an OCD of mine.

Doesn't work that way. You have to prove your assertion.

mewantyblu · 05-17-2009, 01:31 AM

Ps3 needs a price cut , badly. I already have 2 so I'm not buying one anytime soon. The only game I'm really looking forward to is Bioshock 2. I think we'll continue to see numbers like this until late fall. I still think the ps3 is a great value for $400 , but not everybody seems to have that thought

Warjack Prime · 05-17-2009, 04:29 AM

How much time do you spend in the Nintendo aisle of Best Buy that you think you should see anyone pick up a DS or DS game? I go at least once a week but would never presume to believe most sales happen to occur while I'm there. Sheesh!

Terjyn · 05-17-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warjack Prime

How much time do you spend in the Nintendo aisle of Best Buy that you think you should see anyone pick up a DS or DS game? I go at least once a week but would never presume to believe most sales happen to occur while I'm there. Sheesh!

There's a big difference between 'most sales happen to occur when I'm there' and 'not once has a sale ever occurred while I'm there'.

What a ridiculous argument.

Havok83 · 05-17-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

Dude, they both sold under 200k.

I see the numbers. I just dont think a 50,000 difference puts them close to each other. Nice way to spin the PS3 sales, but it was still very disappointing

Maximus · 05-17-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok83

I see the numbers. I just dont think a 50,000 difference puts them close to each other. Nice way to spin the PS3 sales, but it was still very disappointing

That's like 12.5k/w it is a pretty small amount considering the gulf in price.

reiella · 05-17-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terjyn

You didn't even remotely answer my question.

I'm in no way claiming that the DS isn't worth buying.

I'm asking who the people are who are buying them now, having never done so before, and asking why I literally never see someone browsing the DS section in the Best Buys and Fry's and Targets of the world.

Maybe they are super popular at Toy stores, which I never enter. Maybe some type of store I'm not even thinking of is cranking them out by the dozens. I really don't know.

I would tend to say that the DSi is a non-issue, but I've never been a big fan of console/portable "upgrades"...and don't think I've ever purchased one. Not even a PS or PS2 slim.

My household owns three DSes. Mine, my wife's, and an old unit that stopped working.

Should there be a game that comes out that utilizes the DSi's features that we want, we'll be at 5 DS units. We also have about 7 Gameboys in various states of repair/functionality.

What I'm trying to say, is with the DS especially, you see alot of folks multi-dip into it due to the iterative nature of the upgrades. And, being a portable game system, if you do have a family where you have multiple people who want the system, you have to have more than one unit.

mrpink134 · 05-19-2009, 02:06 AM

I got this off yahoo this is surprising

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/p...rother/1315218

ckent22 · 05-19-2009, 02:08 AM

not really. it's a terrible economy, and a lot of people are going for whatever is cheapest

Batman1980 · 05-19-2009, 02:10 AM

Yeah not that surprising at all, thing is Sony can't really drop the price much more without really going into the red with each sale.

Xerios · 05-19-2009, 02:10 AM

DSi is gonna take off like i thought =/

saprano · 05-19-2009, 02:13 AM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=99206

CYMBOL · 05-19-2009, 02:16 AM

It was really the perfect storm against Sony - format wars, economy, the Wii, etc.

It's really too bad - they deserve more support for the stellar system they put out. I've never got so many uses out of a game system.

People just never seemed to catch on that the PS3 was a multi-media machine - not just a gaming system.

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 05-19-2009, 02:18 AM

luxury item + terrible economy = not surprising

FinalEvangelion · 05-19-2009, 02:27 AM

Not too surprising. Last quarter, it sold about the same (6% lower) as it's most direct half-of-the-price competitor, worldwide - according to shipment numbers. This fall, we'll probably see things change a bit.

saprano · 05-19-2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok83

I see the numbers. I just dont think a 50,000 difference puts them close to each other. Nice way to spin the PS3 sales, but it was still very disappointing

I dont need any spin! 360 is $199 its cheaper than the wii. you would expect it to sell more. the ps3 is more expensive than the 360 and it managed to come close in sales. 50,000 is not a big gap. i cant believe your trying to act like only the ps3 sales are dissapointing. i repeat, the both sold under 200k.

Nice way to spin 360 sales, but it was still very disappointing

STARSCREAM · 05-19-2009, 02:29 AM

Such a shame so many are missing out on one of the best electronic devices ever made.

Navster · 05-19-2009, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Such a shame so many are missing out on one of the best electronic devices ever made.

+1

05-17-2009, 01:18 AM	#22
Terjyn Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:122	Maybe those advertisements are working, but god I hope not. Can you get more lame than a random has-been celebrity playing with a DS? From watching commercials you wouldn't even really know what a DS was. Just that you can warp your friends face with it or touch it with a stylus. And saying anecdotes is continuing the tradition of saying nothing. Refute my anecdotes. Do you see people DS shopping all the time? If so maybe I just get unlucky. But if they are selling 1 million DSs, you'd think that I would have seen SOMEONE DS shopping in the last month, with the amount of time I spend in tech shops. And yes, this is something I pay attention to, it's kind of an OCD of mine. Last edited by Terjyn; 05-17-2009 at 01:22 AM.

05-19-2009, 02:06 AM	#30
mrpink134 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2008 4K collection:81 Blu-ray collection:603 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:1	Wow PS3 sales low I got this off yahoo this is surprising http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/p...rother/1315218

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05-17-2009, 01:31 AM	#24
mewantyblu Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:ME	Ps3 needs a price cut , badly. I already have 2 so I'm not buying one anytime soon. The only game I'm really looking forward to is Bioshock 2. I think we'll continue to see numbers like this until late fall. I still think the ps3 is a great value for $400 , but not everybody seems to have that thought

05-17-2009, 04:29 AM	#25
Warjack Prime Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:*Omaha, NE USA PSN Network: WarjackPrime Blu-ray collection:172 Trading Score:2	How much time do you spend in the Nintendo aisle of Best Buy that you think you should see anyone pick up a DS or DS game? I go at least once a week but would never presume to believe most sales happen to occur while I'm there. Sheesh!

05-19-2009, 02:08 AM	#31
ckent22 Banned Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Hollywood, California VIA Smallville, Kansas Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:266 Blu-ray reviews: 15	not really. it's a terrible economy, and a lot of people are going for whatever is cheapest

05-19-2009, 02:10 AM	#32
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Yeah not that surprising at all, thing is Sony can't really drop the price much more without really going into the red with each sale.

05-19-2009, 02:10 AM	#33
Xerios Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Irving, TX PSNetwork: Xerios Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:286 DVD collection:5 Trading Score:1	DSi is gonna take off like i thought =/

05-19-2009, 02:13 AM	#34
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=99206

05-19-2009, 02:16 AM	#35
CYMBOL Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2007 Location:I move around a lot. Blu-ray collection:8	It was really the perfect storm against Sony - format wars, economy, the Wii, etc. It's really too bad - they deserve more support for the stellar system they put out. I've never got so many uses out of a game system. People just never seemed to catch on that the PS3 was a multi-media machine - not just a gaming system.

05-19-2009, 02:18 AM	#36
Blu-Ray Buckeye Power Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Virginia	luxury item + terrible economy = not surprising

05-19-2009, 02:27 AM	#37
FinalEvangelion Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008	Not too surprising. Last quarter, it sold about the same (6% lower) as it's most direct half-of-the-price competitor, worldwide - according to shipment numbers. This fall, we'll probably see things change a bit.

05-19-2009, 02:29 AM	#39
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Such a shame so many are missing out on one of the best electronic devices ever made.

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