April NPD

[user friendly]

Software:

360 GTA IV ~ 1.85m
Wii Mario Kart w/ wheel	~ 1.12m
PS3 GTA IV ~ 1.00m
Wii Play ~ 360K
Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl ~ 326K
PS3 Gran Turismo 5:  Prologue ~ 224K
DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon:  Explorers of Darkness ~ 202K
DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon:  Explorers of Time ~ 202K
Wii Guitar Hero III ~ 152K
360 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare ~ 141K

Hardware:

PS2 ~ 124.4K
PS3 ~ 187.1K
PSP ~ 192.7K
360 ~ 188.0K
Wii ~ 714.2K
DSL ~ 414.8K

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Console sales have dropped sharply for this month across the board. Interesting.

[user friendly]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

Console sales have dropped sharply for this month across the board. Interesting.

Wii ~ 714.2K

Down 7k from March.

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by user friendly

Hardware:

PS2 ~ 124.4K
PS3 ~ 187.1K
PSP ~ 192.7K
360 ~ 188.0K
Wii ~ 714.2K
DSL ~ 414.8K

Are you positive with these numbers?

I thought I read it that the PS3 beat out the 360 yet again?

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by user friendly

Wii ~ 714.2K

Down 7k from March.

That's my mistake. I'm only talking about true next-gen consoles across the board. I just don't even see the other ones anymore.

[mightypen]

Originally Posted by user friendly

Wii ~ 714.2K

Down 7k from March.

Its actually up for per week sales-march was a five week period, april was a four

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by jkwest

Are you positive with these numbers?

I thought I read it that the PS3 beat out the 360 yet again?

I just saw these figures over at Kotaku...

weird...360 beat out PS3 last month...

[becomingwater]

Originally Posted by user friendly

Software:

360 GTA IV ~ 1.85m
Wii Mario Kart w/ wheel	~ 1.12m
PS3 GTA IV ~ 1.00m
Wii Play ~ 360K
Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl ~ 326K
PS3 Gran Turismo 5:  Prologue ~ 224K
DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon:  Explorers of Darkness ~ 202K
DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon:  Explorers of Time ~ 202K
Wii Guitar Hero III ~ 152K
360 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare ~ 141K

Hardware:

PS2 ~ 124.4K
PS3 ~ 187.1K
PSP ~ 192.7K
360 ~ 188.0K
Wii ~ 714.2K
DSL ~ 414.8K

Wasn't there an article that said they made 500 million on GTAIV?

[Elandyll]

About 0.47% difference in sales between 360 and PS3 ... I'd call that pretty dead even in any book but the most picky

Now May could be interesting...

P.S: Are you sure that GTA sold 1.85 Million units on 360 within 2 days in the US ? (GTA 4 launched April 29th 2008, and I guess the NPD numbers cover the US and not world).

Wasn't there an article that said they made 500 million on GTAIV?

$500M, not units
And I think that was within the first week, not 1 day?

[user friendly]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

About 0.47% difference in sales between 360 and PS3 ... I'd call that pretty dead even in any book but the most picky

Now May could be interesting...

P.S: Are you sure that GTA sold 1.85 Million units on 360 within 2 days ? (GTA 4 launched April 29th 2008).

5 days

And yes, this was a 4 week month unlike last month that had 5 weeks.

Originally Posted by becomingwater

Wasn't there an article that said they made 500 million on GTAIV?

Worldwide and that was more up to date than April's NPD numbers.

[mightypen]

These are really atrocious sales numbers for both hd consoles. The lack of GTAIV bump is really astonishing.

[silversnake]

Originally Posted by mightypen

These are really atrocious sales numbers for both hd consoles. The lack of GTAIV bump is really astonishing.

may i think will tell us more about GTA IV and the console. Hardcore gamers bought it in the first 2 weeks but mostly the software. I'm sure it will pick up as people wait more and more and finally get both console and GTA as well as other games coming out soon

[Sith]

gta selling at almost 2-1 on the 360 for a game associated with the ps3 is
not good numbers...

[owa]

Wow, I'm surprised to see the Wii selling so well (although, I realize most people aren't surprised by the number). Anyway, I thought it would have died down by now.

I was talking to a few co-workers today about the PS3 / PS2 and we're all wondering why Sony continues to put so much behind the PS2. Even at retail, it still takes up a huge amount of shelf-space and they still seem to be selling a bunch of them. I thought they'd start trying to encourage the upgrade to a PS3 by now but do you think they're keeping the PS2 as the standard definition solution (and will continue to keep it around since they appear to have backed off the PS3s PS2 compatibility somewhat)?

Originally Posted by Sith

gta selling at almost 2-1 on the 360 for a game associated with the ps3 is
not good numbers...

I thought that looked pretty good but I was assuming the x360 installed base is much larger than the PS3s. Is that not the case? I haven't really paid that much attention to the numbers to really know so maybe I shouldn't have made that assumption.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by owa

Wow, I'm surprised to see the Wii selling so well (although, I realize most people aren't surprised by the number). Anyway, I thought it would have died down by now.

I was talking to a few co-workers today about the PS3 / PS2 and we're all wondering why Sony continues to put so much behind the PS2. Even at retail, it still takes up a huge amount of shelf-space and they still seem to be selling a bunch of them. I thought they'd start trying to encourage the upgrade to a PS3 by now but do you think they're keeping the PS2 as the standard definition solution (and will continue to keep it around since they appear to have backed off the PS3s PS2 compatibility somewhat)?


I thought that looked pretty good but I was assuming the x360 installed base is much larger than the PS3s. Is that not the case? I haven't really paid that much attention to the numbers to really know so maybe I shouldn't have made that assumption.

Just me, but i think there keeping it around cause it's profitable to the company...

[Sith]

Originally Posted by owa

Wow, I'm surprised to see the Wii selling so well (although, I realize most people aren't surprised by the number). Anyway, I thought it would have died down by now.

I was talking to a few co-workers today about the PS3 / PS2 and we're all wondering why Sony continues to put so much behind the PS2. Even at retail, it still takes up a huge amount of shelf-space and they still seem to be selling a bunch of them. I thought they'd start trying to encourage the upgrade to a PS3 by now but do you think they're keeping the PS2 as the standard definition solution (and will continue to keep it around since they appear to have backed off the PS3s PS2 compatibility somewhat)?


I thought that looked pretty good but I was assuming the x360 installed base is much larger than the PS3s. Is that not the case? I haven't really paid that much attention to the numbers to really know so maybe I shouldn't have made that assumption.

Yes business page of L.A. Times today said the 360 has sold 10million systems
in the U.S. and 19 million worldwide....I think Sony is around 10 mill worldwide
and around 4 in the U.S., but i could be wrong on the Sony numbers

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by Sith

gta selling at almost 2-1 on the 360 for a game associated with the ps3 is
not good numbers...

I'm not sure if that was meant as bait or if you seriously thought the numbers were concerning. Regardless, let's do some easy math.

First of all, 1.85 million is 85% more than 1 million, not 100% more (or 2-1) sales. The PS3 version made up just over 35% of the title's sales in the game's first five days of release in the US -- which, of course is a territory Microsoft dominates.

Based on NPD data, Microsoft has outsold Sony on hardware since launch in the U.S. 2.37:1, while this game only sold better on their platform 1.85:1. Of course, they had claimed they were doing 2:1 or better, so that would have been a lie -- even just looking at US data. When we actually see worldwide data (where the PS3 has a far greater installbase), its likely that both versions sold about the same during that initial release window.

Either way, it's a great showing on both systems. As for being "associated with" the PS3 -- well, the series is certainly more associated with Sony systems (rightfully so), but I don't think GTA IV is at all associated with the PS3 over the 360, especially since Microsoft bought the rights to some exclusive content.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

I'm not sure if that was meant as bait or if you seriously thought the numbers were concerning. Regardless, let's do some easy math.

First of all, 1.85 million is 85% more than 1 million, not 100% more (or 2-1) sales. The PS3 version made up just over 35% of the title's sales in the game's first five days of release in the US -- which, of course is a territory Microsoft dominates.

Based on NPD data, Microsoft has outsold Sony on hardware since launch in the U.S. 2.37:1, while this game only sold better on their platform 1.85:1. Of course, they had claimed they were doing 2:1 or better, so that would have been a lie -- even just looking at US data. When we actually see worldwide data (where the PS3 has a far greater installbase), its likely that both versions sold about the same during that initial release window.

Either way, it's a great showing on both systems. As for being "associated with" the PS3 -- well, the series is certainly more associated with Sony systems (rightfully so), but I don't think GTA IV is at all associated with the PS3 over the 360, especially since Microsoft bought the rights to some exclusive content.

please notice the word ALMOST, i can do math

as for the Microsoft exclusive content, i have a feeling alot of people that
have both systems were swayed by that...not to mention if they waited
a little bit and heard about the ps3 freezing problems

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by Sith

please notice the word ALMOST, i can do math

as for the Microsoft exclusive content, i have a feeling alot of people that
have both systems were swayed by that...not to mention if they waited
a little bit and heard about the ps3 freezing problems

Sorry if you were offended. It just read a bit like you were baiting.

Regardless, Microsoft said they were tracking over 2:1, which they definitely didn't do. As for the other, I agree that most people with both systems went for the 360 version. I don't know about the "freezing problems" swaying people, especially since we're only looking at data from the first five days. But the "exclusive content" and the fact that most US gamers have more friends with 360's to play against online I'm sure had a LOT to do with it.

[user friendly]

Originally Posted by Sith

Yes business page of L.A. Times today said the 360 has sold 10million systems
in the U.S. and 19 million worldwide....I think Sony is around 10 mill worldwide
and around 4 in the U.S., but i could be wrong on the Sony numbers

As of March 31st, there have been 12.81m PS3's sold to retailers worldwide. So it's probably at about 13.5m - 14m now.