Why HD's propaganda may be for naught... because we know where it's all heading....

[joeorc]

Digital Downloads...please

for those that have not seen this little gem read on..this from the COMPANIES that make the formats. what is spoken above board...looks like Blu-Ray is makeing sure its going to be used. i have a feeling HD DVD not so much.

because unlike HD DVD once again Blu-Ray is used for more than just movies ,and backup. even in backup Blu-Ray is still the cheaper choice.SOFTWARE is the big market that Blu-Ray like its base optical formats before it. CD, and DVD formats Blu-Ray is also used for Software.HD DVD is not.

"Up until (the) launch of two formats you could do an analysis and it was fundamentally a PowerPoint deck...more or less a white paper," Bell said. "We were the first company that went ahead and said, we're going to try both. A year later...does it become a good consumer proposition?" Compatibility, as well as consistency of the players from competing manufacturers and content availability led the studio to HD DVD, he said.

Though Paramount might think it has picked a winner, consumer polling by The NPD Group doesn't back up that decision. There are still plenty of factors holding up the next-generation packaged media industry as a whole.

Though NPD is forecasting that more than 1 million next-generation players will be sold and 400 movie titles released next year, there still doesn't appear to be a stated demand from consumers for high-definition DVDs. According to an NPD poll, 66 percent of respondents said they're not likely to buy a high-definition player in the next six months. "We've been seeing this over and over and over again," said Russ Crupnick, a senior industry analyst for NPD.

Besides intent to buy being low, standard-definition DVDs are just fine with most consumers. "Unfortunately, we developed the perfect product (with the DVD)," Crupnick said. "We've got to overcome the fact that we're competing against a wonderful product that's in 80 percent of households." Upconverting DVD players--players that translate standard-definition discs to output them in high-definition--cost significantly less (around $60) than HD DVD and Blu-ray players, which go for between $200 and $800.

"We can use HD discs to train consumers to move into digital, but it's a transition."
--Dan Silverberg, vice president of high-definition media development, Warner Bros.

http://www.news.com/Blu-ray-vs.-HD-D...3-6212782.html

digital downloads....please

[richard lichtenfelt]

Download movies is just an easier way to rent rather than going to Blockbuster, etc.
It's not really a competitor to discs in my mind. Unless you have many terabytes of hard drive sitting next to your tv it's just not going to handle a decent sized hd collection. A 160gb Tivo only holds 20 hours of hd movies.
What if you have a hard drive failure? Do you have to redownload all of your movies. If a movie doesn't download correctly would you have to call cust. service?
I wonder if they will be charging monthly fees for the equipment or usage of hardware that you bought such as Tivo.
I've had movies on demand via cable for years and never used it once.
If I buy a movie I want it on a disc, if I rent a movie I'd rather go to the Redbox machine and pay $1.06.

[Manco]

The guy from Pioneer makes the salient take-away point of the entire article.

"When DVD first launched it was anything but the perfect product," recalled Andy Parsons, a Pioneer executive and chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association. "There were many doubters that said there was little chance of overtaking VHS."

This type of statement is repeated again and again and again throughout history whenever something breakthrough comes along. The rest of the article can just be ignored.

Every reason to believe Blu-ray will triumph.

[BluCrusader]

people will want HD when the price is right.
pricing discs over $19.99 is NOT mainstream
players over $199 are not mainstream.

...until then, DVD will remain and the DVD forum will be still be content.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by Manco

The guy from Pioneer makes the salient take-away point of the entire article.

"When DVD first launched it was anything but the perfect product," recalled Andy Parsons, a Pioneer executive and chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association. "There were many doubters that said there was little chance of overtaking VHS."

This type of statement is repeated again and again and again throughout history whenever something breakthrough comes along. The rest of the article can just be ignored.

Every reason to believe Blu-ray will triumph.

Exactly. And just like it was with VHS-DVD, this transition will take time. Everyone needs to just be patient and enjoy their Blu-Ray movies. Corporations aren't pouring all this time/money/effort into a media that's going to go away. Have faith just like they do.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by joeorc

According to an NPD poll, 66 percent of respondents said they're not likely to buy a high-definition player in the next six months. "We've been seeing this over and over and over again," said Russ Crupnick, a senior industry analyst for NPD.

What people don't seem to realize is 66 percent is a *low* percentage when you are dealing with multiple competing formats which can only have one winner.

That means 1 in 3 people was willing to invest in a player which potentially has no future.

How can ANYONE think that's a sign of a failing product?

1 in 3 is more than the number of people who will buy HDTVs in the next six months! And nobody is arguing those are going away.

[BluCrusader]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

1 in 3 is more than the number of people who will buy HDTVs in the next six months! And nobody is arguing those are going away.

thats not good....if they dont buy or own a HDTV, their chances of getting a bluray player is pretty slim to none

slim only being if they want a gaming machine and their choice is PS3

[w_tanoto]

I disagree completely with digital download. no hard copies, people without internet connection (or like me, who sometimes still use dial up at certain time of a year), won't be able to do it

Agree with the title, though, HD DVD is launching one of its last attack during its lifespan

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by w_tanoto

I disagree completely with digital download. no hard copies, people without internet connection (or like me, who sometimes still use dial up at certain time of a year), won't be able to do it

Agree with the title, though, HD DVD is launching one of its last attack during its lifespan

Not only that, a lot of internet providers has a cap on your bandwidth. For instance, if you download more than 30GB a month, they will either charge you for the extra bandwidth or put a halt to your connection till your month's up.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Manco

The guy from Pioneer makes the salient take-away point of the entire article.

"When DVD first launched it was anything but the perfect product," recalled Andy Parsons, a Pioneer executive and chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association. "There were many doubters that said there was little chance of overtaking VHS."

This type of statement is repeated again and again and again throughout history whenever something breakthrough comes along. The rest of the article can just be ignored.

Every reason to believe Blu-ray will triumph.

And can someone give us the comparison as to how long it took DVD to get to the point BD is now, in terms of stable specs?