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Old 10-16-2007, 02:14 PM   #1
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I fear it's just technological competition and noone really cares what HD DVD or Blu-ray can achieve, we just want nice quality, some interviews, making of and trailers ... the rest ???
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:21 PM   #2
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If your a HD-DVD nut, PiP is the messiah.

I as a guy who wants to watch movies doesn't give a rats ass.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:25 PM   #3
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Is PiP that important...No. I don't care about what some millionaire thinks about this movie. Get that crap off of my screen and let me watch the movie. Half the fun of movies is the suspended disbelief. I want to believe that a man dresses up in a cape and cowl or that a man can fly and stop bullets. I don't need something popping up on my screen showing me how that really didn't happen. Let me enjoy the picture and figure it out later.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:27 PM   #4
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What Hussla said. I can't stand if someone gets in the way of the tv, or talks during the show. PIP does just that.

Now, if I was watching some news event being covered on multiple channels, then PIP would help me keep track of a second station and switch if I like the camera angle better.

Most people do not go back to rewatch the movie with silly little pop up facts and commentary. That is generally the fanatical act of "Star Wars" fans and their ilk.

When my HDTV was still on analog only, it was nice using the dual NTSC tuner to get "side by side" PIP. Been about 3 years since using it and I can't say I have missed it much.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:32 PM   #5
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It's important to me. I will use it all the time, if available.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:35 PM   #6
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its not dat important but its good 2 have
depends on the movie i guess
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:36 PM   #7
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Someone explain PiP to me being a non PiP guru?
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:40 PM   #8
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PiP is a gimmick thats how I see it.

Go watch Ghostbusters DVD with the silhouettes of the Harold Ramis and the other two guys (forget the director and producers name) it's a primitive form of DVD PiP, it's cool, funky and interesting for about 1 min then you just want to watch the movie. I prefer just listening to the directors commentary, its far less instrusive and distracting.

The only people who care about PiP, internet connectivity, java games etc are those with no or little life. Wake up there's a big wide world out there!

I just want to watch my damn move in the best possible quality and enjoy it, then maybe go get dressed and head down to one of the local nightclubs, get drunk and find a girl, then maybe bring her to mine one night and watch movies in the best possible HD quality on my HD projector, without some arrogant hack of a director (ie Brett Ratner) face stuck on my screen talking about what he ate the day he filmed the scene!

PiP is not the messiah!
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:41 PM   #9
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I fear it's just technological competition and noone really cares what HD DVD or Blu-ray can achieve, we just want nice quality, some interviews, making of and trailers ... the rest ???
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Someone explain PiP to me being a non PiP guru?
PiP = Picture in Picture!

It's nothing new, its just like how your everyday tv can have a second (smaller) screen appear on your main one, in which it can show another channel or video stream.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:42 PM   #10
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hmmm, i didn't have a little box on the screen when i watched it in theaters, what makes you think i want to see that now? overrated and will be underutilized in my book...

gps, realtime insurance qoutes, multiple angles, e-commerce... all these "extras" are just a bunch of shit... if you're already space constrained, use all you can on PQ and AQ, forget the interactive mumbo. HD DUD sucks. get over it.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:43 PM   #11
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Its a feature that is not going to be often used but when Blu has so much more space then why not have it, plus it demos great. I personally will probably never use it unless someone asks "is there a big difference with Blu ray" obviously they are comparing it to DVD so besides the unbeatable PQ and AQ you show off the Pop up menu and if it were available PiP would be another added wooooo and ahhhhhhh. Definately important and needed.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:44 PM   #12
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I fear it's just technological competition and noone really cares what HD DVD or Blu-ray can achieve, we just want nice quality, some interviews, making of and trailers ... the rest ???
I am much more interested in the highest possible PQ and AQ when watching the movie. The extras on the disc are for the other stuff.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:44 PM   #13
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I could not care less if BLU never had (pip) ,when your in the movie's do you like some one kicking your chair OR talking on the phone ,Hell No!
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:51 PM   #14
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Bah. I'm not against it if other people want it, but I doubt I will ever use it.
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I don't care if the PiP was a naked woman dancing around, I still wouldnt play that crap in the middle of my movie. And as for extras, I never watch them! All I want is simply some killer sound and video reproduction for the movie that I want to watch. Why do we really need to develop PiP over more important stuff like DTS-MA support???
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:18 PM   #16
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it's very important when that side have no other 'advantage' compare to this side.
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No. Picture and Audio Quality is important.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:22 PM   #18
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hmmm, i didn't have a little box on the screen when i watched it in theaters, what makes you think i want to see that now? overrated and will be underutilized in my book...

gps, realtime insurance qoutes, multiple angles, e-commerce... all these "extras" are just a bunch of shit... if you're already space constrained, use all you can on PQ and AQ, forget the interactive mumbo. HD DUD sucks. get over it.
I agree. I am much more concerned about DTS-MA (since Fox is using it). I want the best PQ and AQ I can get. PIP is nothing more than a distraction intruding into my viewing experince. I don't want it - won't use it if it is there. I don't use PIP on my HDTV and get very annoyed with myself if I fat finger the remote and it shows up. Maybe I am getting old, but I don't want to concentrate on more than one thing at a time.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:20 PM   #19
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Since PiP was invented on regular TVs, I can count on two hands the number of times I've used it.

And it's always been a quick flip to check a game score.

Unless I wake up one day as an aspiring actor or director, I really don't care about commentaries.
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Most people do not go back to rewatch the movie with silly little pop up facts and commentary. That is generally the fanatical act of "Star Wars" fans and their ilk.
Thanks for your narrow-minded assessment of people that enjoy the trivia tracks. That's clearly why Pop-Up Videos on VH1 was so successful when it first came. I've seen many of the Star Trek movies several times, but I wouldn't really consider myself a "Trekkie" (don't go to Trek conventions, don't own a set of "Spock" ears, and never debated whether Kirk is better than Picard) and yet if I pop in one of the Star Trek DVD's I somehow manage to enjoy on occassion turning on the trivia track subtitles. Likewise, for The Abyss and other movies. I suppose that all just make me a fanatic (actually since "fan" is just a shortening of fanatic, and I consider myself a Star Trek fan, I suppose I am a fanatic).

As a fanatic, I also enjoy watching deleted scenes, extended cuts, and making of features (except for the EPK garbage). If I had to decide between a 2-disc version for $35 or a single disc version for $25 of a movie, I would always pick the 2-disc version.
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