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Old 12-21-2007, 04:04 PM   #1
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I really don't care about the "making of" or commentary PiP feature on movies. I've heard a lot of you agree with me. However, I was thinking of some other things PiP could be used for. For example in star wars ep. III, there are two lightsaber duels going on at the same time at the end (Sidious v. Yoda and Obi-Wan v. Vader). If you watch carefully you will take notice that we miss some things in each of the duels as the camera keeps switching back in forth between them. It would be cool if there was a PiP option that allowed you to enlarge both video streams to the same size and watch the duels go simutaneously with each other and show both duels in their entirty, so the camera wouldn't have to keep switching back and forth. what are some other cool things movies could do with PiP or at least some different ones besides making ofs and commentaries.
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I want to be able to see the voice actors perform during the animations. Especially a guy like Robin Williams in Aladdin.
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I want to be able to see the voice actors perform during the animations. Especially a guy like Robin Williams in Aladdin.
brilliant idea
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:33 PM   #4
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what about different angles, especially in a certain genre of film where different people like different shots and angles
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:49 PM   #5
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I want to be able to see the voice actors perform during the animations. Especially a guy like Robin Williams in Aladdin.
Best idea for PiP yet.
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:13 PM   #6
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I liked the "180 questions about F4" in F4 and the silver surfer, with the questions appering on a side of the screen, sometimes with comics covers, and planets being eaten by Galactus when you answer wrong - for me it was very close to PiP as you have some images popping on screen and then disappearing.
I've never been able to follow a complete commentary during a movie, just some part here and there when I didn't get something in a movie, but seeing guys talk during a movie and hiding part of it ... I'll buy RE EXtinction and see what it birngs anyway ...

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Old 12-21-2007, 06:43 PM   #7
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I want to be able to see the voice actors perform during the animations. Especially a guy like Robin Williams in Aladdin.
That would be very cool. BUT, a lot of work would have to go into that. I know they film a lot of actors to get facial expressions and such when they are recording the voices, but then you would have to edit all that material too so that you use the correct line from the movie. For example, Robin Williams may say a line 25 times or more to get just what they want, now you have to match that particular snippet up to the movie. Seems like a lot of work to me, but worth it to some of us. But would it be worth the extra effort to a studio?
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:39 PM   #8
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One PiP that I think could be interesting is in touch ups. Like Star Wars and Star Trek where thy redid some of the special effects and changed some sequences. It would be interesting if you can
1) watch the new full screen
2) watch the old full screen
3) watch a PiP with either in the PiP or main screen and being able to switch which is where.

An other idea (that I have mentioned before) is a Horror movie that is taped from both perspectives either like a normal Horror movie (killer appears when least expected) or through the eyes of the killer (you see them stalking the person) you can also use the second stream as a “rear view mirror” to make scary movies less scary for younger audiences.

But obviously my main preference is not PiP at all. I want the secondary stream for 3D

PS for the animation, it sounds cool, but in the end I think it would be quite boring, for the most part it would be just people standing in front of a mic

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Old 12-22-2007, 06:28 PM   #9
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For movies like Cars or Talledega Nights or anything with a chase scene really I think it would be cool to see the view of the front car and the car(s) doing the chasing.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:37 PM   #10
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I had an idea that would involve the viewer. During an action sequence, like say they are trying to escape an exploding ship, the pip would pop up and it would be some chick on videophone asking you "Hey, you need to help us! Press this number combination on your remote 0-1-1-8-1" And if you screw up, the blu-ray disc self distructs and the city's power grid fails, all because of you.
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i seriously think the porn industry is going to run with PiP. Imagine able to get a front and and behind shot at the same time and simply enlarge the one you want to watch. or if its like group stuff, you can specifically watch one set of partners. stuff like that would be very resourceful.
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i seriously think the porn industry is going to run with PiP. Imagine able to get a front and and behind shot at the same time
Id'd be like having sex with mirrors!
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PS for the animation, it sounds cool, but in the end I think it would be quite boring, for the most part it would be just people standing in front of a mic
Obviously you haven't seen how some actor record voices for animation. They often physically overact the part in order bring life and energy to the voice performance. I've seen features where Robin Williams is going absolutely insane behind that microphone! He was perspiring more than he does during his stage routines that I've seen.
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Obviously you haven't seen how some actor record voices for animation. They often physically overact the part in order bring life and energy to the voice performance. I've seen features where Robin Williams is going absolutely insane behind that microphone! He was perspiring more than he does during his stage routines that I've seen.
Micheal Myers is also and animated (pun intended) person when dubbing over voices for cartoons.
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:19 PM   #15
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Obviously you haven't seen how some actor record voices for animation. They often physically overact the part in order bring life and energy to the voice performance. I've seen features where Robin Williams is going absolutely insane behind that microphone! He was perspiring more than he does during his stage routines that I've seen.
like I said for the most part. If several people are in the studio and one acts goofy and is funny, they would laugh as well and then that would not be the take that was in the movie. It is good for outtakes and short clips of the more entertaining pieces but not really for a full feature.The issue is that if we are talking about 15 minuts in a 1.5h movie will you have the PiP on the full time for those 5 clips of 3 min? You will most likely loose interest. Would it be a pop up for each of those clips? Then you are killing the BW for nothing.
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I really don't care about the "making of" or commentary PiP feature on movies. I've heard a lot of you agree with me. However, I was thinking of some other things PiP could be used for. For example in star wars ep. III, there are two lightsaber duels going on at the same time at the end (Sidious v. Yoda and Obi-Wan v. Vader).
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like I said for the most part. If several people are in the studio and one acts goofy and is funny, they would laugh as well and then that would not be the take that was in the movie. It is good for outtakes and short clips of the more entertaining pieces but not really for a full feature.The issue is that if we are talking about 15 minuts in a 1.5h movie will you have the PiP on the full time for those 5 clips of 3 min? You will most likely loose interest. Would it be a pop up for each of those clips? Then you are killing the BW for nothing.
They wouldn't let it be just 15 minutes out of the entire film. It wouldn't be worth their while to implement a PiP feature that ridiculously small. It would have to be at least 75%... and yes, I would still keep the feature on. I love to watch actors work their magic in EVERY situation, be it on camera or off. But, again, a personal preference. I wouldn't kill the BW (bandwidth I'm assuming?) if it was the first time I watched the film, but then I wouldn't ever watch any extra features with my first viewing anyways.
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