Is Anybody Ever Going To Ask About Dts-hd Ma For The Ps3??? - Blu-ray Forum

ckenisell · 01-08-2008, 07:30 PM

Well, CES is here. Sony has announce BD-Live for the PS3. Is anybody ever going to ask or comment on the PS3's ability or inability to decode DTS-HD MA and send via uncompressed PCM?

Is this just unimportant to a lot of people or something? Why does this topic continue to be ignored by the mods of this site, other industry insiders, and Sony?

I'm getting a VERY bad feeling about this. I'm beginning to think the closed lips mean that the PS3 won't ever be able to support DTS-HD MA.

sj001 · 01-08-2008, 07:35 PM

I think it certainly is Numero Uno on the want list for MOST PS3 owners, count me in as one of those. Not sure what they wait or holdup is... could be Sony, could be DTS. I sure wish that someone at SCEA would give us an answer IF it is coming out period. Because if not, I will be buying a Samsung BDP-1400 to bitstream the codecs to my receiver.

BR7 · 01-08-2008, 07:44 PM

I thought this would this question would have been answered early being it gets asked about a lot here.One can hope we will get and update on this soon

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 07:46 PM

If you watch insider comments, you'll see Sony cant put this on the ps3 until another pc of hardware has it. We got 1.1 after the BD30.

Expect to get 2.0 and DTSMA after the BD50 is out.

ckenisell · 01-08-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

...Sony cant put this on the ps3 until another pc of hardware has it.

Has it been explained why? Like legal reasons, common courtesy, etc.?

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ckenisell

Has it been explained why? Like legal reasons, common courtesy, etc.?

Id say its a common courtesy, dont want to steal the thunder. They prob new all along that the ps3 would fit up to 2.0 and that others like panasonic would be a little behind the curve. It seems fair.

Woulda shutup a lot of critics though if they just popped the ps3 out of the gate with 2.0

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:32 PM

heres the post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3808

stockstar1138 · 01-08-2008, 08:36 PM

dts hd ma not coming for a while. while dts-hd-ma would be nice, only less than 5% of ps3 owners probably have the equipment to pass dts-hd-ma.

sony needs to get its butt together with things like in game xmb access, home, 1st party software, bd-live, hell the majority of people would enjoy more vizulations on the music player more than dts-hd-ma support. after they are done with that then we can talk about decoding more hd audio codecs, but i don't think its coming any time soon.

to 95% of the ppl out there dts-hd-ma support for the ps3 is worthless.

sj001 · 01-08-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

dts hd ma not coming for a while. while dts-hd-ma would be nice, only less than 5% of ps3 owners probably have the equipment to pass dts-hd-ma.

sony needs to get its butt together with things like in game xmb access, home, 1st party software, bd-live, hell the majority of people would enjoy more vizulations on the music player more than dts-hd-ma support. after they are done with that then we can talk about decoding more hd audio codecs, but i don't think its coming any time soon.

to 95% of the ppl out there dts-hd-ma support for the ps3 is worthless.

Curious why you say that... every FOX/MGM titles has it, which is about 1/4 of my collection, and a lot of other folks as well. I would guess that a good portion of people with PS3's would hopefully have a receiver with HMDI inputs for PCM output. Why hold back on it? Dolby TrueHD has the same requirements, and it was built-in from the get go.

From what I understood, in-game XMB is already possible, but is up to the game developer to implement... I could be wrong on that one.

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Curious why you say that... every FOX/MGM titles has it, which is about 1/4 of my collection, and a lot of other folks as well. I would guess that a good portion of people with PS3's would hopefully have a receiver with HMDI inputs for PCM output. Why hold back on it? Dolby TrueHD has the same requirements, and it was built-in from the get go.

From what I understood, in-game XMB is already possible, but is up to the game developer to implement... I could be wrong on that one.

Problem is, the number of people that own a rcvr that can do either is still gonna be small. I just bought a new rcvr and opted to not spend that much. Audio just isnt that important to me. A $400 Dolby rcvr is just fine. I agree that DTSMA should be low priority.

JohnGalt · 01-08-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Curious why you say that... every FOX/MGM titles has it, which is about 1/4 of my collection, and a lot of other folks as well. I would guess that a good portion of people with PS3's would hopefully have a receiver with HMDI inputs for PCM output.

I couldn't agree more. None of the laundry list above are things that are going to sell PS3s in bulk, they're all limited interest features which will be useful to / used by small subsets of PS3 purchasers. DTS HD MA is a glaring deficiency, that other stuff is no more than fluff.

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnGalt

I couldn't agree more. None of the laundry list above are things that are going to sell PS3s in bulk, they're all limited interest features which will be useful to / used by small subsets of PS3 purchasers. DTS HD MA is a glaring deficiency, that other stuff is no more than fluff.

Its only a glaring deficiency if you have a rcvr that can do DTSMA. MINORITY. BD Live is more important.

sj001 · 01-08-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

Its only a glaring deficiency if you have a rcvr that can do DTSMA. MINORITY. BD Live is more important.

The Onkyo 605 can, which cost me $399... but, you don't NEED a receiver that can decode it, what I am talking about is internal decoding of DTS-MA, and then passing it to the receiver as PCM. Most receivers CAN do this.

jag2007 · 01-08-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

Its only a glaring deficiency if you have a rcvr that can do DTSMA. MINORITY. BD Live is more important.

I can do with out bd live. I want DTS HD-MA and I want it now!!

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

The Onkyo 605 can, which cost me $399... but, you don't NEED a receiver that can decode it, what I am talking about is internal decoding of DTS-MA, and then passing it to the receiver as PCM. Most receivers CAN do this.

Ah. So there's a benefit to this?

sj001 · 01-08-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jag2007

I can do with out bd live. I want DTS HD-MA and I want it now!!

Exactly, I for one, really don't care about DTS-Live. Though I understand it's importance from a marketing perspective I guess.

rigpig · 01-08-2008, 08:50 PM

...while i'd like to see them add the capability...i doubt it's the number one 'request'...i suspect having it upscale 720p games to 1080i rather than downrez them to 480p would satisfy more PS3 owners.....just guessing.

Luis_A51 · 01-08-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnGalt

I couldn't agree more. None of the laundry list above are things that are going to sell PS3s in bulk, they're all limited interest features which will be useful to / used by small subsets of PS3 purchasers. DTS HD MA is a glaring deficiency, that other stuff is no more than fluff.

as much as I want DTS-MA, in-game XMB and HOME and even BD-live are far more important

I expect BD-Live and DTS-MA right about the time the new panny comes out

elwaylite · 01-08-2008, 08:50 PM

Whats DTS Live?

TheDaddy · 01-08-2008, 08:51 PM

I read on AVS that once a BD player is released with MA then a firmware update will soon follow to enable the PS3 to do the same.

Something about fairplay between BD manufacturers.

That the PS3 can only do the same as the other players available, keeping the playing field level etc....

01-08-2008, 07:30 PM	#1
ckenisell Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Round Rock, TX Blu-ray collection:368 Blu-ray reviews:3	Is Anybody Ever Going To Ask About Dts-hd Ma For The Ps3??? Well, CES is here. Sony has announce BD-Live for the PS3. Is anybody ever going to ask or comment on the PS3's ability or inability to decode DTS-HD MA and send via uncompressed PCM? Is this just unimportant to a lot of people or something? Why does this topic continue to be ignored by the mods of this site, other industry insiders, and Sony? I'm getting a VERY bad feeling about this. I'm beginning to think the closed lips mean that the PS3 won't ever be able to support DTS-HD MA.

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01-08-2008, 07:35 PM	#2
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	I think it certainly is Numero Uno on the want list for MOST PS3 owners, count me in as one of those. Not sure what they wait or holdup is... could be Sony, could be DTS. I sure wish that someone at SCEA would give us an answer IF it is coming out period. Because if not, I will be buying a Samsung BDP-1400 to bitstream the codecs to my receiver.

01-08-2008, 07:44 PM	#3
BR7 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Sioux City,IA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:25 Trading Score:35	I thought this would this question would have been answered early being it gets asked about a lot here.One can hope we will get and update on this soon

01-08-2008, 07:46 PM	#4
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	If you watch insider comments, you'll see Sony cant put this on the ps3 until another pc of hardware has it. We got 1.1 after the BD30. Expect to get 2.0 and DTSMA after the BD50 is out.

01-08-2008, 08:32 PM	#7
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	heres the post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3808

01-08-2008, 08:36 PM	#8
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	dts hd ma not coming for a while. while dts-hd-ma would be nice, only less than 5% of ps3 owners probably have the equipment to pass dts-hd-ma. sony needs to get its butt together with things like in game xmb access, home, 1st party software, bd-live, hell the majority of people would enjoy more vizulations on the music player more than dts-hd-ma support. after they are done with that then we can talk about decoding more hd audio codecs, but i don't think its coming any time soon. to 95% of the ppl out there dts-hd-ma support for the ps3 is worthless.

01-08-2008, 08:50 PM	#17
rigpig Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Alberta Blu-ray reviews:3	...while i'd like to see them add the capability...i doubt it's the number one 'request'...i suspect having it upscale 720p games to 1080i rather than downrez them to 480p would satisfy more PS3 owners.....just guessing.

01-08-2008, 08:51 PM	#20
TheDaddy Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Belleair Bluffs, Fl.	I read on AVS that once a BD player is released with MA then a firmware update will soon follow to enable the PS3 to do the same. Something about fairplay between BD manufacturers. That the PS3 can only do the same as the other players available, keeping the playing field level etc....

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