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Old 01-23-2008, 04:25 AM   #1
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Saw this at an other site I frequent. Looks promessing

http://www.remotecentral.com/news/41..._sony_ps3.html
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:57 AM   #2
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Actually, my PS3 BT remote is the only remote that doesn't frustrate the heck out of me. I have a huge wooden coffee table that obstruct the line of sight. On my two IR remotes I have to recharge batteries every two weeks so the transmission is powerful enough to work when pointed and reflected from the ceiling.
I wish the CE's would kill already that ancient tech (IR), and replace everything with BT or at least RF ...
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:24 AM   #3
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:57 AM   #4
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if it has the PS button... it's worth it.
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:17 AM   #5
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
2.4 million.

no but really it'll probably be like $200 if not a little more.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:18 AM   #6
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2.4 million.

no but really it'll probably be like $200 if not a little more.
So, it'd cost less than their current line [and I don't mean the lcd panel one either ].
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:07 PM   #7
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But don’t be disappointed! A second version is in rapid development that would be both faster for the designer to construct and cheaper for you to buy: it’s the “IR4PS3 2.0”, if you will. This new “black box” edition would be sold as a solderless do-it-yourself kit – simply obtain an official Sony PS3 remote, buy the IR4PS3 kit, and follow the instructions on how to merge the two together for perfect infrared control of your PS3.

In the meantime, the designer would like to gauge how much interest there is in the IR4PS3 to help determine what versions will be available and how much they should cost. So, if you’d like to purchase an IR4PS3 please contact Ben directly at ir4ps3@hotmail.com for further information on how this will be possible.
So let it be known we want it and write this guy an email.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:10 PM   #8
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
Where have you heard this? I've been hoping for this but haven't been able to dig up anything on it yet, except straight out denials that anything is going to be made.
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
i've been waiting for this.....
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:36 PM   #10
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
That'd be great! Could you post any references to this rumor please.
TV's and other stuff in your entertainment center got to have BT receivers for this to have a point...

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Old 01-23-2008, 04:55 PM   #11
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That looks great! The only thing I have is, it requires the PS3 remote to be the IR receiver by modifying the remote. Sure it works, but it seems there should be a better way. I think they should make their own Bluetooth remote that would work exactly the same way as the PS3 BD remote... same features, same functionality, except that it is not a remote at all, but rather a device you can either power with batteries or plugged in to a wall and will look like a sleek and small box. All the circuitry minus the buttons, plus the new IR features and receiver, would really make this a big hit.
All you'd have to do is buy the box, put in batteries or plus it in, and viola! You can register it and everything as a bluetooth device on your PS3 and you won't need to use a remote as a receiver.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:07 PM   #12
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That'd be great! Could you post any references to this rumor please.
TV's and other stuff in your entertainment center got to have BT receivers for this to have a point...
I think it would be a technological revolution if everyone started moving away from IR and going to RF or BT for remote communication.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:32 PM   #13
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That looks great! The only thing I have is, it requires the PS3 remote to be the IR receiver by modifying the remote. Sure it works, but it seems there should be a better way. I think they should make their own Bluetooth remote that would work exactly the same way as the PS3 BD remote... same features, same functionality, except that it is not a remote at all, but rather a device you can either power with batteries or plugged in to a wall and will look like a sleek and small box. All the circuitry minus the buttons, plus the new IR features and receiver, would really make this a big hit.
All you'd have to do is buy the box, put in batteries or plus it in, and viola! You can register it and everything as a bluetooth device on your PS3 and you won't need to use a remote as a receiver.

You hit on something HUGE here! Now, you pair this "box" with all your IR devices, and make the BT universal remote to "talk" to this "box" and you've got yourself a BT universal remote for everything!

Bravo! Follow the link.
https://sportal.uspto.gov/secure/por...s-unregistered

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Old 01-24-2008, 04:37 AM   #14
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There are rumors that Harmony is working on a IR/RF/BT remote. Unfortunately it will probably worth a small fortune.
but that is the thing, you don't need a special remote, this thing works as a gateway. If you already have a Harmony then you can use that one with the PS3 (if you buy this device)
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:48 AM   #15
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That looks great! The only thing I have is, it requires the PS3 remote to be the IR receiver by modifying the remote. Sure it works, but it seems there should be a better way. I think they should make their own Bluetooth remote that would work exactly the same way as the PS3 BD remote... same features, same functionality, except that it is not a remote at all, but rather a device you can either power with batteries or plugged in to a wall and will look like a sleek and small box. All the circuitry minus the buttons, plus the new IR features and receiver, would really make this a big hit.
All you'd have to do is buy the box, put in batteries or plus it in, and viola! You can register it and everything as a bluetooth device on your PS3 and you won't need to use a remote as a receiver.
in this thread
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...read.cgi?14086

the guy talks about the product (a bit), the original was built for his home and then thought it might be interesting to see if others would want one. He then took some of the feedback and made some changes. I think a simpler device would obviously be better, but I think that it is way more complex, not only would he need to rebuild the equivalent HW but also the SW for the PS3 remote. That is why he went with the added component that now makes it an IR receiving device that controls the original PS3 remote.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #16
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here there’s a limitation, there’s someone working to overcome it. Sony’s failure to make the PlayStation 3 consumer electronics friendly by releasing a proper infrared remote control add-on has resulted in a wide number of third-party efforts, such as the ones covered in our earlier article Adding IR Remote Control Capabilities to the PS3. But no matter which method of controlling the PS3 is chosen, a major compromise has been required. Do you go Bluetooth and have full functionality, but live without being able to integrate any functions into your expensive universal remote? Or do you purchase an USB-based infrared solution and live with its limited functionality, including not being able to power the console on and off?

This has been an unacceptable situation to more than just universal remote aficionados such as myself. For example, one entrepreneur has developed the PS3IR+PWR ($50, Schmartz.com), which takes the traditional USB-based infrared dongle concept used by existing products and adds a special wired sticker that goes over the console’s power button. The sticker then electrically simulates someone placing their finger over the heat-sensitive button. This solves the problem of not being able to turn the console on or off from afar, but what about the issue of the PS3 only accepting just over one dozen different commands via USB?

Ever since the PlayStation 3’s release the situation has looked impossible for those of us who wanted just one remote, and yet also desired as much control over the PS3 as a standalone Blu-ray player would offer. But all of that’s about to change!

Engineering to the rescue!
And so steps in an enterprising individual from Canada – who, for now, prefers to be known as “Ben”, AKA “The Others” on our forums. A hardware and software engineer by trade, he knew that the solution to this problem didn’t necessarily require reinventing the wheel. If the official Sony PlayStation 3 Blu-ray Disc Remote Control (read our review) was the only practical way to obtain full control over the PS3, then why not simply make that existing Bluetooth solution work the way you want?

After studying the problem he had his answer: a small add-on circuit board with an IR receiver and processor that would integrate with the official Bluetooth remote’s existing circuitry. The IR receiver captures commands from a standard infrared remote control, figures out what they are, and then sends the correct electrical impulse to the original circuit board. This simulates someone pushing a button, resulting in the desired command being sent wirelessly to the PS3. This method piggybacks onto Sony’s proprietary system, bypassing the limitations of using the PS3’s USB port for communications.

It took a few months to develop and fine tune, but by November 2007 a fully functional prototype had been built. And as of January 2008 we’ve received the first sample modified Bluetooth remote here at Remote Central, dubbed the IR4PS3 by its creator.
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