Pioneer Elite VSX 92txh VS Denon AVR 2808ci VS Yamaha RX V1800 - Blu-ray Forum

Nick67gto · 03-17-2008, 06:09 PM

I just got some brand new NHT speakers and now im looking a new receiver to support the new HD codes. But i looking more for quality of sound and not so much on quantity of features. Can anyone help me?

true2_blu · 03-17-2008, 06:40 PM

All 3 are great quality receivers with excellent sound. You pretty much have to listen to them to make a decision. Sometimes it depends on the sound your looking for, do you like bright, crystal clear sound? or warm, full sound? Some say the receivers make the sound your looking for, I tend to believe its more the speakers, but thats just me. Anyway you cant go wrong with the 3 brands, listen to them and find one that fits your wallet!

Metalheadisme · 03-18-2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick67gto

I just got some brand new NHT speakers and now im looking a new receiver to support the new HD codes. But i looking more for quality of sound and not so much on quantity of features. Can anyone help me?

Go with the Denon, or wait for the new Harman Kardons, and here is why-

A warm receiver can reproduce a bright sound source accurately, much more easily than a bright receiver can reproduce a warm sound source.

T-Town Oil · 03-18-2008, 04:49 AM

ive got to say i love the 92 txh. ive had mine for 4 or 5 months and love it. great sound with tons of options

bykes · 03-18-2008, 05:17 AM

I have the Pio 92 as well. I like it a bunch. Great sound and power with a lot of good features. I was looking at the denon when I was shopping. They are more expensive, and has 1 less hdmi port. That was the deal breaker for me. Plus the denons have a cheap looking front face.

red_5ive · 03-18-2008, 05:26 AM

If you're looking for sound quality vs. features, I'd suggest the Marantz SR-7002 instead, which isn't too much more than the RX-V1800. Marantz IMO excels in delivering top notch audio in-a-box, especially if you like to listen to a lot of music. You won't get all the video processing and other features, but IMO that's the sacrifice for better overall sound which Marantz focuses on.

I'd also suggest a preamp-processor combo like Emotiva. Their upcoming hdmi 1.3a processor is due to release in April, and I believe you can get away with a preamp/amp combo like their UMC-1 processor (due in April) and LPA-1 7 ch. amp for around the same price. You're certainly guaranteed entery level separates sound quality at a mid-end receiver price.

Metalheadisme · 03-18-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by red_5ive

If you're looking for sound quality vs. features, I'd suggest the Marantz SR-7002 instead, which isn't too much more than the RX-V1800. Marantz IMO excels in delivering top notch audio in-a-box, especially if you like to listen to a lot of music. You won't get all the video processing and other features, but IMO that's the sacrifice for better overall sound which Marantz focuses on.

I'd also suggest a preamp-processor combo like Emotiva. Their upcoming hdmi 1.3a processor is due to release in April, and I believe you can get away with a preamp/amp combo like their UMC-1 processor (due in April) and LPA-1 7 ch. amp for around the same price. You're certainly guaranteed entery level separates sound quality at a mid-end receiver price.

Very true... I'll amend my suggestion to say either Denon or Marantz. Both sound superb, but you need the right speakers to make them shine.

btf1980 · 03-18-2008, 01:39 PM

You really can't wrong with any of those receivers. Many people like Denon because their receivers sound neutral. So the 2808ci below fits that bill.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4208603

The Yamaha is also an excellent receiver and it has Burr Brown DACs, so if 2-channel listening is important to you you may want to go this route. The RX V1800 fits that bill.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4192120

Either way, I think any of these receivers would do a fine job. You can't really go wrong and they are both competitively priced.

What NHT speakers do you have? They make solid loudspeakers.

Nick67gto · 03-18-2008, 03:45 PM

I have classic 3 for fronts and classic 2 as rears and classic 3 center for my center, if i due decide going with preamp-processor way can i get like a cheaper reciver like the onkyo 605 and get a soild amp to power the speakers or would it be better off just to due the regular processor and amp.
hey thanks for all ur input i really apperciate it.

btf1980 · 03-18-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick67gto

I have classic 3 for fronts and classic 2 as rears and classic 3 center for my center, if i due decide going with preamp-processor way can i get like a cheaper reciver like the onkyo 605 and get a soild amp to power the speakers or would it be better off just to due the regular processor and amp.
hey thanks for all ur input i really apperciate it.

I think going seperates is always a good idea. Having a dedicated amplifier for your speakers is preferred by many people, including me. The one thing you need to make sure of if you are using a receiver as a pre-amp is that the receiver has pre-outs. The Onkyo 605 does not have pre-outs, so it cannot be used as a pre-amp.

Nick67gto · 03-18-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by btf1980

I think going seperates is always a good idea. Having a dedicated amplifier for your speakers is preferred by many people, including me. The one thing you need to make sure of if you are using a receiver as a pre-amp is that the receiver has pre-outs. The Onkyo 605 does not have pre-outs, so it cannot be used as a pre-amp.

is it a bad thing to use a receiver for a pre-amp, will it down my sound quality if i use a less quality receiver. yea ur right about the onkyo 605 so i would probably get the 705. what type of amp should i get like, B&K, NAD, Parasound, or Rotel

btf1980 · 03-18-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick67gto

is it a bad thing to use a receiver for a pre-amp, will it down my sound quality if i use a less quality receiver. yea ur right about the onkyo 605 so i would probably get the 705. what type of amp should i get like, B&K, NAD, Parasound, or Rotel

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. Obviously, if you can afford to get a pre-amplifier by itself with all the bells and whistles (HDMI 1.3, Internal Decoding of DTS HD MA, Dolby True HD etc) then go ahead, but the list of pre-amps doing all that is VERY thin. A more cost effective measure would be to use a Receiver as a pre-amp.

As far as amplifiers go, I wholeheartedly recommend Rotel, but i'm sure the others you listed are fine in their own right.

Nick67gto · 03-19-2008, 03:11 PM

yea i think i going to go to separtes to get better sound from my NHT's i was looking at the emotiva new xpa-5, or a rotel rmb-1075, i was wondering if anyone can give some feedback or just ur opinion on the matter thanks. Or if someone can tell what to look for in an amp that would be great because going to separtes is really different from what i have been looking at and i want to get something good. thanks again for all ur help

btf1980 · 03-19-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick67gto

yea i think i going to go to separtes to get better sound from my NHT's i was looking at the emotiva new xpa-5, or a rotel rmb-1075, i was wondering if anyone can give some feedback or just ur opinion on the matter thanks. Or if someone can tell what to look for in an amp that would be great because going to separtes is really different from what i have been looking at and i want to get something good. thanks again for all ur help

I use the 1075 myself. Constant, clean and steady power. It's built like a sherman tank. I fully recommend it.

My Rotel RMB-1075

red_5ive · 03-19-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick67gto

yea i think i going to go to separtes to get better sound from my NHT's i was looking at the emotiva new xpa-5, or a rotel rmb-1075, i was wondering if anyone can give some feedback or just ur opinion on the matter thanks. Or if someone can tell what to look for in an amp that would be great because going to separtes is really different from what i have been looking at and i want to get something good. thanks again for all ur help

I'm considering either the XPA-5 or the LPA-1 myself (leaning toward the XPA-5 since it has balanced connections), however Rotel is already known for it's rock solid performance for it's price point. I've read constant recommendations on the 1075 specifically. It's a tough call since the XPA-5 reatails for $799 and has balanced connections, but the nice thing is since Emotiva is an online company they offer 30 days to demo their gear which should give you enough time to break the unit in and give it a good listen. The only thing you lose is the shipping cost if you decide to return it, but I think that's a fair trade.

HeavyHitter · 03-19-2008, 05:01 PM

I debated between the Pioneer Elite (91) and Denon 2808CI. From what I could gather, both are pretty equal. The Pioneer warmer and broader; the Denon a bit richer. Seems more or less personal preference. Both I'm told are above the Yamaha. I ended up with the Elite 91 which is an upgrade from my previous (non HDMI) Yamaha 59XX receiver even when listening to regular DD and DTS tracks.

03-17-2008, 06:09 PM	#1
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03-17-2008, 06:40 PM	#2
true2_blu Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Bay Area Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:21	All 3 are great quality receivers with excellent sound. You pretty much have to listen to them to make a decision. Sometimes it depends on the sound your looking for, do you like bright, crystal clear sound? or warm, full sound? Some say the receivers make the sound your looking for, I tend to believe its more the speakers, but thats just me. Anyway you cant go wrong with the 3 brands, listen to them and find one that fits your wallet!

03-18-2008, 04:49 AM	#4
T-Town Oil Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:42 Blu-ray reviews:3	ive got to say i love the 92 txh. ive had mine for 4 or 5 months and love it. great sound with tons of options

03-18-2008, 05:17 AM	#5
bykes Active Member Member since:Feb 2007	I have the Pio 92 as well. I like it a bunch. Great sound and power with a lot of good features. I was looking at the denon when I was shopping. They are more expensive, and has 1 less hdmi port. That was the deal breaker for me. Plus the denons have a cheap looking front face.

03-18-2008, 05:26 AM	#6
red_5ive Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The 'state' of Southern California Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:367 Blu-ray collection:999 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	If you're looking for sound quality vs. features, I'd suggest the Marantz SR-7002 instead, which isn't too much more than the RX-V1800. Marantz IMO excels in delivering top notch audio in-a-box, especially if you like to listen to a lot of music. You won't get all the video processing and other features, but IMO that's the sacrifice for better overall sound which Marantz focuses on. I'd also suggest a preamp-processor combo like Emotiva. Their upcoming hdmi 1.3a processor is due to release in April, and I believe you can get away with a preamp/amp combo like their UMC-1 processor (due in April) and LPA-1 7 ch. amp for around the same price. You're certainly guaranteed entery level separates sound quality at a mid-end receiver price.

03-18-2008, 01:39 PM	#8
btf1980 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2007 Location:NYC Home Theater Gallery:97 Trading Score:14	You really can't wrong with any of those receivers. Many people like Denon because their receivers sound neutral. So the 2808ci below fits that bill. http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4208603 The Yamaha is also an excellent receiver and it has Burr Brown DACs, so if 2-channel listening is important to you you may want to go this route. The RX V1800 fits that bill. http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4192120 Either way, I think any of these receivers would do a fine job. You can't really go wrong and they are both competitively priced. What NHT speakers do you have? They make solid loudspeakers.

03-18-2008, 03:45 PM	#9
Nick67gto Member Member since:Oct 2007	I have classic 3 for fronts and classic 2 as rears and classic 3 center for my center, if i due decide going with preamp-processor way can i get like a cheaper reciver like the onkyo 605 and get a soild amp to power the speakers or would it be better off just to due the regular processor and amp. hey thanks for all ur input i really apperciate it.

03-19-2008, 03:11 PM	#13
Nick67gto Member Member since:Oct 2007	yea i think i going to go to separtes to get better sound from my NHT's i was looking at the emotiva new xpa-5, or a rotel rmb-1075, i was wondering if anyone can give some feedback or just ur opinion on the matter thanks. Or if someone can tell what to look for in an amp that would be great because going to separtes is really different from what i have been looking at and i want to get something good. thanks again for all ur help

03-19-2008, 05:01 PM	#16
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	I debated between the Pioneer Elite (91) and Denon 2808CI. From what I could gather, both are pretty equal. The Pioneer warmer and broader; the Denon a bit richer. Seems more or less personal preference. Both I'm told are above the Yamaha. I ended up with the Elite 91 which is an upgrade from my previous (non HDMI) Yamaha 59XX receiver even when listening to regular DD and DTS tracks.

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