I'm so annoyed by the logo on HD network channels

[Y3k Bug]

Originally Posted by tron3

The PBS kids channel had THREE logos going at one time. The largest was in the upper left hand corner and hindered a great deal of the picture!

... nor do I watch the PBS kids channel...

So if you don't watch that channel, how did you know the logos were there?


Put me down for a +1 on hating those "bugs". I can only hope one day they get SO annoying, people stop watching the offending channels, but it probably won't happen.. *sigh*

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Shiggidy75

I believe it will get worse in the age of DVRs. People more and more watch recorded content and skip over commercials. This is only the beginning.

Yep...

[Banjo]

I also hate it when they insert in promos for other shows during the show. For instance, a person would walk across the screen at the bottom, or a big head pops out of nowhere.

I hate that.

[Mayor Quimby]

It reminds me of the internet 10 years ago when there were dozens of pop up ad windows on every site. I hope it's just a trend that will go away but I'm not terribly hopeful it will.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

It reminds me of the internet 10 years ago when there were dozens of pop up ad windows on every site. I hope it's just a trend that will go away but I'm not terribly hopeful it will.

Well, here's the big difference. With the Net, there was this nice .com crash, and folks started to realize that the advertising wasn't getting them money.

Now if that happens with OTA broadcasts... That can be really bad for the stations.

[Mayor Quimby]

Maybe instead of us all whining here, we should write the networks. Couldn't hurt, right?

[Bobby Henderson]

The networks don't respond much to complaints via letter writing campaigns. They do respond by their ratings plummeting down the toilet. So I'll just vote with my clicker.

Around 7 to 10 years from now when the Internet is actually fast enough to support things like video on demand, HD-quality video telephony and lots of other cool stuff the television broadcast industry will be thrown into a major state of upheaval.

Right now we're usually confined to watching TV shows and networks based in our home countries, and often the networks are piped through local affiliates. The Internet could change a lot of that by making borders and broadcast markets largely irrelevant. Every English speaking TV network and TV station will be thrown into competition with each other. Time shifting will get even more complicated and all the advertising/marketing people will have one hell of a time trying to figure out how to sell ads in that new paradigm of broadcasting. It's going to wallop a lot of businesses right out of business.

With that said, all these various networks out there had better wake up and get with it in terms of customer service. And I'm not talking about taking care of their ad customers. I'm talking about them waking up and stopping all those practices that piss off viewers and drive them away.

We have LOTS of entertainment choices now. This isn't the freaking 1970s where most people had only 4 TV stations coming in on their TV sets and little else to do in their living rooms. I don't think the networks really understand that.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

The networks don't respond much to complaints via letter writing campaigns. They do respond by their ratings plummeting down the toilet. So I'll just vote with my clicker.

Around 7 to 10 years from now when the Internet is actually fast enough to support things like video on demand, HD-quality video telephony and lots of other cool stuff the television broadcast industry will be thrown into a major state of upheaval.

Right now we're usually confined to watching TV shows and networks based in our home countries, and often the networks are piped through local affiliates. The Internet could change a lot of that by making borders and broadcast markets largely irrelevant. Every English speaking TV network and TV station will be thrown into competition with each other. Time shifting will get even more complicated and all the advertising/marketing people will have one hell of a time trying to figure out how to sell ads in that new paradigm of broadcasting. It's going to wallop a lot of businesses right out of business.

With that said, all these various networks out there had better wake up and get with it in terms of customer service. And I'm not talking about taking care of their ad customers. I'm talking about them waking up and stopping all those practices that piss off viewers and drive them away.

We have LOTS of entertainment choices now. This isn't the freaking 1970s where most people had only 4 TV stations coming in on their TV sets and little else to do in their living rooms. I don't think the networks really understand that.

As a sidenote, if you think Video on Demand broadcasts won't [or rather, don't] have even more annoying advertising bugs, I can give you a buddy invite to Joost to experience the fun first hand .

You have to realize why they care when ratings drop, and who exactly foots the bill for them to be on the air.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by rodgerse

what do you expect from free cotent?.Don't know if you mean OTA, but tv is still otherwise cheap and the only way that is is because you have to watch through ads/logos.BD is clutter-free, but not free, so its reallly a matter of choice.

bbc still has logos everywhere and we pay for that and the bbc3 one is very distracting.

[Maxell]

I really dont mind, unless it is not transparent. I hate the colored ones.
I also hate some of the premium channels that do so like Starz Comedy. We pay for those channels so that there would'nt be such logos and advertising.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Maxell

I really dont mind, unless it is not transparent. I hate the colored ones.
I also hate some of the premium channels that do so like Starz Comedy. We pay for those channels so that there would'nt be such logos and advertising.

I think it's part to do with encouraging the sale of the packaged media [as opposed to blank media]. That's my semi-cynical view on it. Especially when coupled with that practically all of the entertainment industry in interlinked.

And well, it's "cheap self-advertising" for the folks channel-skimming.

[nycomet]

Originally Posted by xwingsct

It seems like the logo is getting bigger and bigger and it's not in the corner of the screen anymore. It's almost like 6 inches away from the corner and plus they put an ad of their new shows in there too.
That is a big distraction when trying to watch movies. I got so distracted by that I just shut it off and watch BD instead.

Three simple solutions:

1. Only watch the movie if it is presented in widescreen
2. Tape a piece of black cardboard over the area of the screen with the logo
3. Only watch movies on Blu-ray

[AliceT]

The worst one ive ever seen was just this morning. I was watching some Cuba Gooding Jr movie called End Game, on I guess it was the lifetime HD channel, and during THE ENTIRE movie, they had a little blurb on the entire left 20% of the screen that just said WATCH THE CAPTURE OF THE GREEN RIVER KILLER ON BLAH BLAH. Its the name of some original movie they are gonna be showing I gather, but it didnt fade out after awhile, it was there for the entire 2 hours.

[Mobe1969]

I don't watch ANY television. I wait for all the TV shows I watch to get released on DVD (and now, Blu). I loathe station logos. I loath adds. I loath stations advertising other shows during a show with animated crap. So I don't watch any.

They ought to be ashamed of themselves though. They are physically ruining a visual medium putting their graphitti over a TV show or movie. They are disrespecting the hard work and skill of the shows makers.

[mikesoba]

Completely agree. The logos have turned into station ads that take up as much as a third of the bottom of the screen and contain distracting motions. Simple greed is all it is. And this after paying big bucks to get the stations on satellite.

Worse is Showtime -- supposedly a premium channel -- doing this shit; I'm close to dropping Showtime.

[Marquoz]

I don't mind the little station identification thing, it's the ads during a show that drive me nuts. I've missed key parts of a show because they are blaring on about a show that won't be out for months on end. Apparently I am more interested in the show I am watching NOW then I am about what might be.

It's getting to the point where I just don't watch TV anymore, and download it off a website or torrent my TV. I would rather pay a monthly fee to a station and have no advertisement then have it free and be plastered with ads during the show.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Marquoz

I don't mind the little station identification thing, it's the ads during a show that drive me nuts. I've missed key parts of a show because they are blaring on about a show that won't be out for months on end. Apparently I am more interested in the show I am watching NOW then I am about what might be.

It's getting to the point where I just don't watch TV anymore, and download it off a website or torrent my TV. I would rather pay a monthly fee to a station and have no advertisement then have it free and be plastered with ads during the show.

Trouble is, are there enough folks who have similar mindsets?

Cost to produce shows shouldn't go down from advertising changes, so consider if just 10% would rather 'pay' for commerical free tv, that 10% would have to pay the same cost total that the advertising revenue generated...

Consider something such as Seinfeld, Season 9, viewership of ~ 21,266,000. And with the pay range of around ~5mill per episode for Jerry himself and around 24 episodes. And of course then you gotta deal with that folks would prolly much rather just not spend the money to get 'commerical free' now and wait for the DVD...

[mikesoba]

Originally Posted by reiella

Trouble is, are there enough folks who have similar mindsets?

Cost to produce shows shouldn't go down from advertising changes, so consider if just 10% would rather 'pay' for commerical free tv, that 10% would have to pay the same cost total that the advertising revenue generated...

Consider something such as Seinfeld, Season 9, viewership of ~ 21,266,000. And with the pay range of around ~5mill per episode for Jerry himself and around 24 episodes. And of course then you gotta deal with that folks would prolly much rather just not spend the money to get 'commerical free' now and wait for the DVD...

There is a difference between ads between acts of a program and ads during the show. I think this responder and most posts refer to the latter. Luckily (for the moment), we can zoom by ads occurring during breaks in the programming by using DVRs.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by mikesoba

There is a difference between ads between acts of a program and ads during the show. I think this responder and most posts refer to the latter. Luckily (for the moment), we can zoom by ads occurring during breaks in the programming by using DVRs.

And that's why the latter ads are cropping up.

Companies don't advertise just because they like to spend money .

[ bah, wrong order, oopsie, fixed ]

[tron3]

Originally Posted by mikesoba

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Worse is Showtime -- supposedly a premium channel -- doing this shit; I'm close to dropping Showtime.

Why don't you just do it? When they ask why, and they will, tell them you had those bug ads being so big and obnoxious. Have to remember how TV stations think. One complaint to them means 10,000 other people feel the same way but did not take the time to complain.

Maybe losing one customer due to bug ads is no big deal, but 10,000 will make them take notice.