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Old 03-23-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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Question 605: does unplugging the hdmi affect things in any way?

i was set for the longest time on getting the 705 but have advised against it and i now want the onkyo 605.

i know most of the differences between the two but for me im just looking for the cheapest (yet most reliable) way to receive hd audio. hence the 605..

i just had one question...

i would like to receive the hd audio from my 360, ps3 and hd cable box (hence 3 hdmi ins) and i know the 605 only has 2. so if i were to unplug lets say the hd cable box from the receiver to put in the hdmi for the ps3 and continue switching these time and time again and even switching between all 3 consoles/box, would there be any complications? (for example, maybe i would have to keep adjusting settings for the ps3 everytime i plug it in because i unplugged the hdmi to begin with? or would i start getting lip sync issues because of switching them?)

i would really like to save the extra money in getting the 605 over the 705 and spend it towards my speakers


any help would be appreciated
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:54 PM   #2
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i was set for the longest time on getting the 705 but have advised against it and i now want the onkyo 605.

i know most of the differences between the two but for me im just looking for the cheapest (yet most reliable) way to receive hd audio. hence the 605..

i just had one question...

i would like to receive the hd audio from my 360, ps3 and hd cable box (hence 3 hdmi ins) and i know the 605 only has 2. so if i were to unplug lets say the hd cable box from the receiver to put in the hdmi for the ps3 and continue switching these time and time again and even switching between all 3 consoles/box, would there be any complications? (for example, maybe i would have to keep adjusting settings for the ps3 everytime i plug it in because i unplugged the hdmi to begin with? or would i start getting lip sync issues because of switching them?)

i would really like to save the extra money in getting the 605 over the 705 and spend it towards my speakers


any help would be appreciated

I would go to monoprice.com and get myself a cheap HDMI switchbox!

Then I wouldn't have to worry.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:58 PM   #3
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I would go to monoprice.com and get myself a cheap HDMI switchbox!

Then I wouldn't have to worry.
absolutely the right call!!! and no, you would not have to constantly change the settings on your PS3
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:00 PM   #4
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theres no real need to connect the cable box through the receiver...unless your TV doesnt have enough inputs.

Optical audio cable is plenty. Heck, you could even connect the cable box via component cable. 1080i max and no lossless audio, hdmi has no real advantage.
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theres no real need to connect the cable box through the receiver...unless your TV doesnt have enough inputs.

Optical audio cable is plenty. Heck, you could even connect the cable box via component cable. 1080i max and no lossless audio, hdmi has no real advantage.
Sorry, crackinhedz... I should have thought of that... but I'm pretty knee-jerk when it comes to Monoprice...
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but I'm pretty knee-jerk when it comes to Monoprice...
hey, good advice is good advice.
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also, correct me if im wrong...but the XBOX360 cannot produce lossless audio anyways. So wouldnt optical be fine?

...although im not sure of the 360 capabilities.
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theres no real need to connect the cable box through the receiver...unless your TV doesnt have enough inputs.

Optical audio cable is plenty. Heck, you could even connect the cable box via component cable. 1080i max and no lossless audio, hdmi has no real advantage.
my tv has 2 hdmi inputs

but you're saying i could use the 2 hdmi ins on the receiver for the 360 & ps3 and just use optical for the cable box since there is no lossless anyway?

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but you're saying i could use the 2 hdmi ins on the receiver for the 360 & ps3 and just use optical for the cable box since there is no lossless anyway?
yes.

also, going directly to the TV with your cable box means you do not have to share the same picture settings (brightness,contrast,color etc) with the devices going through the receiver. Its actually an advantage.
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I would go to monoprice.com and get myself a cheap HDMI cable!
hey, talk about some good advice!
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:12 PM   #11
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im not very audio savvy so bare with me on this very stupid question

if my cable box is in no way connected to the receiver and is straight to the tv, how will i hear cable channels with the speakers?

wouldnt the speakers be connected to the receiver, which means i cant also connect them to the back of my cable box?
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:14 PM   #12
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you connect an Optical cable from the cable box to the Receiver.

(and you probably can even connect red/white analog from cable box to the TV so you can watch and hear tv without the receiver being on...my DISHNetwork lets me output audio over both, maybe yours could too?)
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you connect an Optical cable from the cable box to the Receiver.

(and you probably can even connect red/white analog from cable box to the TV so you can watch and hear tv without the receiver being on...my DISHNetwork lets me output audio over both, maybe yours could too?)
ohhhhh so you're saying instead of going from cable box to receiver to tv, i should just go from cable box to tv directly and connect optical from the box to receiver to receive the audio?
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also, correct me if im wrong...but the XBOX360 cannot produce lossless audio anyways. So wouldnt optical be fine?

...although im not sure of the 360 capabilities.
straight from the horses mouth...Amir.

"PCM output is available but only for 2-channels (not 5.1)....If you are keen on having 5.1 PCM output, I recommend purchasing the Toshiba A2 player which after the price drop, will be much cheaper than Elite."
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ohhhhh so you're saying instead of going from cable box to receiver to tv, i should just go from cable box to tv directly and connect optical from the box to receiver to receive the audio?
yes.


and as I said, doing it this way you will not have to share display settings. This means you can calibrate your TV to its optimal for Bluray and Cable without having to share, sharing could make one or the other look out of wack.

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so since the 360 is only 2 channel pcm this leaves me an extra hdmi in to play with because i wont bother putting it in...

so do you still recommend not hooking the cable box through the receiver because of sharing display settings or was that just a solution because i didnt have enough ins?
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so do you still recommend not hooking the cable box through the receiver because of sharing display settings or was that just a solution because i didnt have enough ins?
me personally, I would connect the PS3 and Xbox360 to the receiver. And the cable box directly to the TV.

Calibrate your HDMI #1 input.

Calibrate your HDMI #2 input.


...say you have your PS3/Xbox into #2, calibrate it for Bluray. This may or may not look good for the Xbox360, but it should be close enough to live with. Your Bluray movies will look pristine.

So now you can calibrate for your HD cable box seperately, and make your HD cable look as good as possible.
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:44 PM   #18
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ok, thank you very much for the help
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no problem. Let us know how it goes!
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no problem. Let us know how it goes!
ya, should be interesting because i don't know the first thing about calibrating my tv set
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