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Old 04-21-2013, 01:07 AM   #1
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I have noticed that there are webpages here on Blu-ray.com for upcoming BD releases of some movies, that will have the 4K resolution which is 2160P > https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?quic...leasetimestamp. I noticed on amazon.com that there are webpages for these upcoming BD releases with 4K(2160P), that are already listed on there now as well. Also, i found this bit of information on amazon.com on all the webpages for the upcoming 4K(2160P) movies on BD > http://www.amazon.com/s?url=search-a...qid=1366504323 .....
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The Blu-ray “Mastered in 4K” collection will set a new standard for Blu-ray HD picture and sound, creating the ultimate 1080p home entertainment experience. Created from the highest quality 4K source materials with new expanded color*, consumers can enjoy a brilliant picture with exquisite detail using their existing Blu-ray player or PlayStation®3. The Blu-ray “Mastered in 4K” collection is optimized so that 4K Ultra HD TV owners can take full advantage of the new 4K upscaling technology, delivering an outstanding near-4K experience. “Mastered in 4K” Blu-rays also work with all 1080p HDTVs for spectacular high definition picture and sound.

*Expanded color requires xvYCC-compatible TV and Blu-ray player

Why “Mastered in 4K” Blu-ray?
• Get the best Blu-ray picture possible, mastered from 4K source materials
Push your TV to the limit with a high bitrate digital transfer for an immersive visual experience
• Ideal solution for new 4K TV owners and great for Blu-ray collectors
So from what it sounds like it says that i have highlighted above, people will be able to use their current hdtv's and blu-ray players. Which is a good thing for people that might of recently bought 1080P hdtvs and 1080P blu-ray players. Oh, and i almost forgot to mention this, that those BD releases i posted a link to on amazon.com and from here on blu-ray.com, have a May 14th 2013 BD release date. Maybe that is going to be when hdtv's and blu-ray players with the next hdtv resolution number after 1080P will be released, meaning 2160P .
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You are referring to 4K upconversion. Like 480p to 1080p conversion 1080p to 2160p conversion will leave a lot to be desired.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:12 AM   #3
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I have noticed that there are webpages here on Blu-ray.com for upcoming BD releases of some movies, that will have the 4K resolution which is 2160P > https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?quic...leasetimestamp. I noticed on amazon.com that there are webpages for these upcoming BD releases with 4K(2160P), that are already listed on there now as well. Also, i found this bit of information on amazon.com on all the webpages for the upcoming 4K(2160P) movies on BD > http://www.amazon.com/s?url=search-a...qid=1366504323 .....

So from what it sounds like it says that i have highlighted above, people will be able to use their current hdtv's and blu-ray players. Which is a good thing for people that might of recently bought 1080P hdtvs and 1080P blu-ray players. Oh, and i almost forgot to mention this, that those BD releases i posted a link to on amazon.com and from here on blu-ray.com, have a May 14th 2013 BD release date. Maybe that is going to be when hdtv's and blu-ray players with the next hdtv resolution number after 1080P will be released, meaning 2160P .
Aren't your numbers a little wrong? 4K = 4*1080 = 4320p

2160p would be 2K...
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You are referring to 4K upconversion. Like 480p to 1080p conversion 1080p to 2160p conversion will leave a lot to be desired.
Well you know, id take a 1080p - 2160p upconversion over a 480p - 1080p upconversion.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:22 AM   #5
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Aren't your numbers a little wrong? 4K = 4*1080 = 4320p

2160p would be 2K...
No. 2K or 4K refer to the approximate horizontal resolutions. 2K = 2048 pixels, 4K = 4096 pixels...
1080p refers to the vertical resolution.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:28 AM   #6
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This will help the folks that have many questions:

720×480 : D-VHS, DVD, miniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam
720×480 : Widescreen DVD (anamorphic)
1280×720 : D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV)
1440×1080 : HDV (miniDV)
1920×1080 : HDV (miniDV), AVCHD, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDCAM SR
1998x1080 : 2K Flat (1.85:1)
2048×1080 : 2K Digital Cinema
4096×2160 : 4K Digital Cinema
7680×4320 : UHDTV (8K)
15360x8640 : 16K Digital Cinema

4K is about the same as 35mm film and 8K is about the same as 65/70mm film.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:50 AM   #7
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You are referring to 4K upconversion. Like 480p to 1080p conversion 1080p to 2160p conversion will leave a lot to be desired.
Yes, if its upconversion from 1080P to 2160P in the next Blu-ray format, like the Blu-ray movies shown in those links i posted above. I'm sure there will be more movies with that capability sometime soon.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:52 AM   #8
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Yes, if its upconversion from 1080P to 2160P in the next Blu-ray format, like the Blu-ray movies shown in those links i posted above. I'm sure there will be more movies with that capability sometime soon.
There's already several 4K upconversion players out there and with 4K displays shipping a few weeks it may be the way for people to start enjoying pseudo 4K with their present BDs.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 AM   #9
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Aren't your numbers a little wrong? 4K = 4*1080 = 4320p

2160p would be 2K...
No, they are not wrong. Goofnut posted a chart. Read what i highlighted on the chart below

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This will help the folks that have many questions:

720×480 : D-VHS, DVD, miniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam
720×480 : Widescreen DVD (anamorphic)
1280×720 : D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV)
1440×1080 : HDV (miniDV)
1920×1080 : HDV (miniDV), AVCHD, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDCAM SR
1998x1080 : 2K Flat (1.85:1)
2048×1080 : 2K Digital Cinema
4096×2160 : 4K Digital Cinema
7680×4320 : UHDTV (8K)
15360x8640 : 16K Digital Cinema

4K is about the same as 35mm film and 8K is about the same as 65/70mm film.

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Old 04-21-2013, 01:59 AM   #10
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There's already several 4K upconversion players out there and with 4K displays shipping a few weeks it may be the way for people to start enjoying pseudo 4K with their present BDs.
You mean 4K Blu-ray players, right ?
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You mean 4K Blu-ray players, right ?
No, I mean 4K upconversion players. There are no native 4K players yet. It's mainly because there is no 4K content as of yet.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:07 AM   #12
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No, I mean 4K upconversion players. There are no native 4K players yet. It's mainly because there is no 4K content as of yet.
Uh, no. Its BD players because the movies on the webpages i posted links to are BD movies, they are not Dvds. There will be 4K content released soon, such as BD's and BD players and hdtv's that support the next hdtv resolution number.
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Uh, no. Its BD players because the movies on the webpages i posted links to are BD movies, they are not Dvds. There will be 4K content released soon, such as BD's and BD players and hdtv's that support the next hdtv resolution number.
You are mistaken. There's not even an approved specification for a 4K format yet.
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You are mistaken. There's not even an approved specification for a 4K format yet.
There will be one soon. Expect it to be available on May 14th. That is the date that the BD movies in those webpage links that i posted a link to start getting released on.
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There will be one soon. Expect it to be available on May 14th. That is the date that the BD movies in those webpage links that i posted a link to start getting released on.
Seriously doubt it. The BDA nor the studios have said one iota concerning a 4K format being released in less than a month.
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There will be one soon. Expect it to be available on May 14th. That is the date that the BD movies in those webpage links that i posted a link to start getting released on.
"Mastered in 4k" does not mean "encoded in 4k". The resolution on the disk will not be 4k. These disks will be 1080p and will play on any bluray player like any other bluray.
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Seriously doubt it. The BDA nor the studios have said one iota concerning a 4K format being released in less than a month.
That is the date that is listed with those movies being released on that BD format, as shown in the website links that i posted on the first post.
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That is the date that is listed with those movies being released on that BD format, as shown in the website links that i posted on the first post.
As Hot Sauce posted above these Sony titles are only mastered in 4K. Their resolution will be 1080p like any other BD release. Do you understand now?
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Another 4k thread when there are several others..
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"Mastered in 4k" does not mean "encoded in 4k". The resolution on the disk will not be 4k. These disks will be 1080p and will play on any bluray player like any other bluray.
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As Hot Sauce posted above these Sony titles are only mastered in 4K. Their resolution will be 1080p like any other BD release. Do you understand now?
In reply to both of you: Then what is the difference between BD movies that are mastered in 4K and current BD movies that are not ?
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