Blu-ray going 1440p and 50Mbs + bitrate ?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

But at least i'm smart enough to realize it's not going to happen until 2040-2050 so I can ACTUALLY ENJOY my Blu-Ray movies for the next 30-40 years.
Thinking it's coming in 10 years is nonsense as it's going to take at least that long just to get rid of DVD ...

yeah I think between 15-40(as you say ) years is plenty to then want something new I would hate to see hdtvs, Movies exc. go the way of the computer world where in 2 years your pent4 is out done by a duel core and in 8 months thats out done by quad core

[sardaukar1977]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

"SIGH"!! My god, 1080p is GOOD ENOUGH! Why is anyone even thinking about 1440p???

for now.

[supersix4]

Im sure there will be a time when things can look no better might be now if the hdtvs maxed out contrast gama exc.

[Big_Rizzle]

Originally Posted by Brian Cash

yeah i think extras are a waste of space never once looked at them i would much rather have better pq and sq and no extras

Thats in your opinion but I happen to watch all the eztras on all my discs its like my fav thing about DVD's and now Blu ray's

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by john_1958

because alot of big screen tvs are junk like 1024x768,

I'm all for progress and better ways of watching hdtv
to me hdtv should blow my socks off with 3d detail realism

I had a bad flashback and I tought it was Ruprecht that resurected this thread from the dead ... but it's only you John_1958

Ruprecht part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3jRJr5IGQ

Ruprecht part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqMc9B7uDV8

For a second there I thought I was going to have to get the genital cuff



Now as for your comments John_1958, I said "PHANTHOM RESOLUTION"... I never said ANYTHING about 1024 X 768 junk. Of course someone should upgrade their HDTV to FULL 1920 X 1080 .

Phantom Resolution reffers to anything above 1920 X 1080 (because there is no commercial content higher then 1920 X 1080).

Hope I cleared things up a little for you

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

People keep starting and will continue starting threads on this subject because it interesting and... because you and few others keep polluting these threads with excremental smilies, personal insults, and sometimes, nonsensical drivel. If you'd be so kind and avoid these threads, hundreds of other members will be much obliged. Thank you.

The great reider has spoken



Heres' a Kite


Go fly it

P.S. While your at it, do us all a favor and why don't you attach a metal object at the end of the Kite's rope and go out to fly it during a thunderstorm

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

So now you are suggesting for me to kill myself. Furthermore, you are convinced that by killing myself I will do everybody on this forum a favor. Did I understand you correctly?

That thick layer surrounding your skull should help you survive the electrocution

P.S. Next time don't start an unprovoked pissing contest if you don't like getting dirty

[ixlegitballinxl]

1080p is still fairly new...why the need for this thread...enjoy what you got, worry about better technology when you can buy it

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

That "thick layer surrounding my skull" got me a PhD and 50 patents with USPTO in Nuclear Magnetic Resonance field.
Something that your IQ led you to believe that it was a "pissing contest", was in fact a request to refrain from forcing your (well known) opinion on the subject in such a vulgar and immature way.

You and your wonderfull IQ, PhD and 50 patents were'nt able to figure out that I was'nt ACTUALLY suggesting that you go kill yourself

Does'nt inspire confidence

Since your area of expertise is "Nuclear Magnetic Resonance field"
I think you would be greatly needed on the Island:




P.S. Just in case you have'nt figured it out yet... I'm telling you to get "LOST"

[reider]

Originally Posted by ixlegitballinxl

1080p is still fairly new...why the need for this thread...enjoy what you got, worry about better technology when you can buy it

Well to be honest, I never thought of resolutions higher then 1080P before I made a "mistake" of upgrading from 52" 1080P to 65" 1080P. My viewing distance is really small; and immediately upon turning on the new TV I felt that higher resolution could improve my viewing experience.

[reider]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

You and your wonderfull IQ, PhD and 50 patents were'nt able to figure out that I was'nt ACTUALLY suggesting that you go kill yourself

Does'nt inspire confidence

Since your area of expertise is "Nuclear Magnetic Resonance field"
I think you would be greatly needed on the Island:




P.S. Just in case you have'nt figured it out yet... I'm telling you to get "LOST"

What a wonderful post.
I guess understanding sarcastic notions is also exceeding your intelligence capacity.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

What a wonderful post.
I guess understanding sarcastic notions is also exceeding your intelligence capacity.

You actually did'nt sound sarcastic at all... you sounded melodramatic to the point that it almost made me wonder

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

Is there a Moderator around that could clean up that oversized and irrelevant junk??

You remind me of those nerdy kids back in elementary school that wen't crying to mommy (the principal's office) whenever they got a bloody nose

Special delivery just for you.... the waaahmbulance:




Me (the linebacker)... You (look under my shoe ):






P.S. Now THAT'S Entertainment! The "others" thank you for waking up a sleeping giant

[reider]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

You remind me of those nerdy kids back in elementary school that wen't crying to mommy (the principal's office) whenever they got a bloody nose

Special delivery for you.... the waaahmbulance:

It obviously was a very recent experience for you (the elementary school I mean).
Anyway I deleted all my "irrelevant" junk. You can continue foaming if you want... Idiocy is contagious, so I'm out.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by reider

It obviously was a very recent experience for you (the elementary school I mean) .

You don't know how right you are:





Oh... Miss Veronica Vaughn ... so hot... want to touch the hiney

[Gavin Von Karls]

A couple people here posted earlier that 1080p would be the highest home viewing resolution for 30-40 years... that kind of thinking is really silly. Just think of how far we've come in the last 30 years and you'll realize that 30 years from now our viewing experience will probably be radically different (3d, 4k, Who knows?). Things change, things get better(sometimes). That's just the way life is.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by Gavin Von Karls

A couple people here posted earlier that 1080p would be the highest home viewing resolution for 30-40 years... that kind of thinking is really silly.

Read below to find out WHY it's not silly:

10 reasons why nothing better then Blu-Ray is coming before 2050:

1) Transition from VHS/Laserdisc to DVD happened because:
-there had to be a transition from ANALOG to DIGITAL (both VHS & Laserdisc were analog formats)
-there had to be a transition to a more portable practical format (as opposed to huge ass Laserdisc and clunky VHS cassettes).

2) Transition from DVD to Blu-Ray had to happen because of the new broadcast standard that is HDTV

3) There are NO MORE valid reasons to transition to another format now

4) The next valid reason will ONLY happen when a new broadcast standard is established in North America and we are barely at the infancy of the HDTV era.

5) The next broadcast standard is Super Hi-Vision (8K) and is NOT coming until 2040-2050 (in North America).

6) DOWNLOADS ARE NOT THE FUTURE! By the time downloads even become somewhat mainstream, Blu-Ray will have such an overwhelming presence and be so inexpensive that it will not be threatened by crappy quality downloads. By the time the quality of downloads reaches Blu-Ray quality (audio & video) Blu-Ray will simply SHARE a market with downloads (IMHO the VAST majority of the population will and ALWAYS will prefer a physicall format).

7) TV's in peoples homes are going to be 2K (1920 X 1080) for a very VERY long time. There is absolutely NO REASON for the masses to change their HDTV's until a new higher end broadcast standard is established.

8) The previous broadcast standard was established in 1950 and is still going strong today even though HDTV was introduced in 1998.

During its campaign for FCC approval, CBS gave the first demonstrations of color television to the American general public, showing an hour of color programs daily Mondays through Saturdays, beginning January 12, 1950,

9) If DVD had came out in the early 60's... it would still be going strong today as their would have been NO REASON to change it for something else... EXACTLY the same reason why there will be NO reason to change Blu-Ray until approx 2050 when/if a new higher end broadcast standard becomes established in North America and a sufficient amount of homes have adopted new TV's supporting the new specification.

10) DVD's have been around for 10 years and will last another 10 until COMPLETELY being replaced by Blu-Ray. With Blu-Ray around as the highest quality form of movie media for the next 40 years, I believe it will take an additional 20 years for it to go away even after the introduction of something better... 2050 + 20 = 2070... making the lifespan of Blu-Ray 60+ years

P.S. Movie studios will still find ways to make you spend your money with 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th editions Super, Duper, Magical, Extended, Director's Cut & The Son of the Director's cut editions

The next media based movie format should deliver this:

1) Lossless Video
2) 4:4:4 (NO chroma subsampling)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YUV_4:2:0#4:2:0
3) xvYCC color space (30 million colors --> 1.8 times more then RGB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XvYCC
4) 48bit color depth (16bit per color)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Color
5) Super Hi-Vision 8K resolution (7680 X 4320)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Hi-Vision
6) I'm good with 7.1 Lossless audio but Super Hi-Vision has 22.2 audio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22.2

[God of Biscuits]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Read below to find out WHY it's not silly:

10 reasons why nothing better then Blu-Ray is coming before 2050:

1) Transition from VHS/Laserdisc to DVD happened because:
-there had to be a transition from ANALOG to DIGITAL (both VHS & Laserdisc were analog formats)
-there had to be a transition to a more portable practical format (as opposed to huge ass Laserdisc and clunky VHS cassettes).

2) Transition from DVD to Blu-Ray had to happen because of the new broadcast standard that is HDTV

3) There are NO MORE valid reasons to transition to another format now

4) The next valid reason will ONLY happen when a new broadcast standard is established in North America and we are barely at the infancy of the HDTV era.

5) The next broadcast standard is Super Hi-Vision (8K) and is NOT coming until 2040-2050 (in North America).

6) DOWNLOADS ARE NOT THE FUTURE! By the time downloads even become somewhat mainstream, Blu-Ray will have such an overwhelming presence and be so inexpensive that it will not be threatened by crappy quality downloads. By the time the quality of downloads reaches Blu-Ray quality (audio & video) Blu-Ray will simply SHARE a market with downloads (IMHO the VAST majority of the population will and ALWAYS will prefer a physicall format).

7) TV's in peoples homes are going to be 2K (1920 X 1080) for a very VERY long time. There is absolutely NO REASON for the masses to change their HDTV's until a new higher end broadcast standard is established.

8) The previous broadcast standard was established in 1950 and is still going strong today even though HDTV was introduced in 1998.



9) If DVD had came out in the early 60's... it would still be going strong today as their would have been NO REASON to change it for something else... EXACTLY the same reason why there will be NO reason to change Blu-Ray until approx 2050 when/if a new higher end broadcast standard becomes established in North America and a sufficient amount of homes have adopted new TV's supporting the new specification.

10) DVD's have been around for 10 years and will last another 10 until COMPLETELY being replaced by Blu-Ray. With Blu-Ray around as the highest quality form of movie media for the next 40 years, I believe it will take an additional 20 years for it to go away even after the introduction of something better... 2050 + 20 = 2070... making the lifespan of Blu-Ray 60+ years

P.S. Movie studios will still find ways to make you spend your money with 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th editions Super, Duper, Magical, Extended, Director's Cut & The Son of the Director's cut editions

The next media based movie format should deliver this:

1) Lossless Video
2) 4:4:4 (NO chroma subsampling)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YUV_4:2:0#4:2:0
3) xvYCC color space (30 million colors --> 1.8 times more then RGB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XvYCC
4) 48bit color depth (16bit per color)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Color
5) Super Hi-Vision 8K resolution (7680 X 4320)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Hi-Vision
6) I'm good with 7.1 Lossless audio but Super Hi-Vision has 22.2 audio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22.2

Almost none of this is true.

As far as dissing downloads, I just switched to comcast "16 BLAST" or whatever they call it, and i consistently, here and now in 2008, get 28+Mbps download and 2.8Mbps upload.

That means downloading a typical blu-ray source almost in real time. or a starting delay of a couple of minutes of buffering. I can download an entire dual-layer DVD in less than an hour.

Downloading will win, eventually. And IP Multicast will lead the way.

I love Blu-ray, but in the end, it's still sneakernet.

[sphdle1]

By the time 1440 comes around they will probably skip it and jump to the next level, besides with the advancement in compression engineering by that time, video will look even better on many new titles than even the best ones we have now, so there will be little improvement visually with 1440 and higher unless you have a large theatre to tell any difference.

Right now the BDA have to sell the concept and technology of 1080p to consumers to compete with DVD, which in time will happen as we are starting to already see. However, I think it will be a harder sell for the next generation in 10 years time.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

"SIGH"!! My god, 1080p is GOOD ENOUGH! Why is anyone even thinking about 1440p???

Hmm, you sound like someone who bought HD DVD. Let's get him!

Kidding, kidding. 1440p is just buzz work going around right now. We won't see 1140p any time soon, let alone content that supports it. Don't get your panties in a bunch.