DTS-HD MA is not as important as CC/subtitling for the deaf/hearing impaired!

[Caligula]

Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

I said they would if you write without paragraphs like that. I didn't say they would ignore you of your reason.



How can I blame them? They are a business, and business means busy. Meaning how do you know they are not planning PS3 to have CC now? We don't know that. But if they don't have close caption in mind, then let them know, let everyone here know, let everyone here help you spread the word if need be. But to come in and say DTS-HD is not important, the people who need them will not be happy, and therefore kill their reasons for helping you.

Like I said maybe I use the wrong words, not manditory sounds better then not important. As I said it would be nice to upgrade sound. but it is not a necessity. That is all I am saying.
My wife has talked to sony recently and they have no plans right now to have CC. that is how I know they dont have it in mind. not yet. However, I am doing what I can to push it along.

[Blu-Generation]

Originally Posted by Caligula

My wife has talked to sony recently and they have no plans right now to have CC. that is how I know they dont have it in mind. not yet. However, I am doing what I can to push it along.

That's a good start right there, and it could just work. So keep it up.
Stay positive and you might just get what you wish for.

Peace

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Caligula

That doesn’t even make any sense. Someone who is 500 pounds can lose weight. I should not have to sit and deal with the fact that there is no CC.

My rebuttal had to do with your use of the word discrimination. It is EXACTLY like when obese people claim airlines are discriminating. Discrimination insinuates that a person or group is doing something on purpose.

So by using such a strong word - you are saying SONY has yet to put CC on the PS3 FOR A REASON - to willfully discriminate against you. That is just plain silly, and I think you know better.

That is my ONLY issue with your OP and I absolutely agree that it would be a benefit to have CC in a upgrade. Yes it would have been nice to have it right out of the box.

According to the 2000 US census there were 281 Million Americans counted. At last estimate - 1 million are deaf and 6 million have "a really hard time" hearing. 7 million hearing impaired out of 281 million is not the demographic SONY was going for. They wanted the gamers and early adopters that want great picture and sound. SOUND - not captions.

I beieve CC will come! As you said - it was on the PS2... it can only be a matter of time til it's on the 3.

I completely support your quest for CC - But SONY is not Discriminating against you... that was my point. If they were, they never would have included CC on the PS2 - agree?

[Slec]

Again... PLEASE...I implore you, start a new thread that only discusses what you would like to see adopted on the PS3 to suit your needs. There are many of us that would support your quest for this to become available and that will only help your cause. You need a thread that does not disparage the product you would like improved.

This thread will do no good for your cause because of the cross talk and the attack (purposeful or not) on HDMA. Do you want to continue to debate the merits of DTSHD-MA and its importance? If so, you made the perfect thread.

If you really would like "improved" capabilities on the PS3 that suit your needs, create a thread that discusses ONLY that. No mention of DTSHD-MA, SACD capabilities, doesn't discuss in game XMB, or anything else. Only what you want, in a POSTIVE light. You'll get a ton of support...just not by attacking something many people want. Use this as a springboard to be heard... Anyone from sony who sees a thread titled "DTSHD is not important" will skip right over it.. I've said my peace. if you create a new thread I will be there to support and help.. if not... Good luck

[chrisshea]

WHAT ABOUT THE BLIND PEOPLE!!!!
ahahah
the blind can only hear the movie and every lil sound counts to them soo DTS-HD is needed

[turboedguy]

The fact is, owning a Blu-ray player is not a necessity, but DTS-HD-MA is a necessity for the best possible high definition experience.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Caligula

Why does the PS3 NEED DTS-HD? Honestly i am curiou why it NEEDS it. DTS-HD is a want and a desire, not a need. CC may not be a need to you but it really is for some people. so please explain yourself because I am not following!

Some Hearing people feel that Hi-Def sound is a need for the best experience and mono or stereo sound is not enough.

You apparently believe that CC is a need and subtitles are not enough for the best experience.

Your "need" is not so different from someone else's. This is again why I agree that it would be a benefit to have CC - just as I agree that having DTS-HD MA would be a benefit. Neither one is more important than the other, except to the parties they affect.

[Pseudoblu]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

I understand your desire for a Closed Captioned feature on the PS3 and it is a VERY valid point... but ragging on DTS-HD MA... a feature that the MAJORITY of PS3 Blu-Ray movie fan owners have been praying 5 times a day since November 2006 for... simply is'nt the way to do it.

SONY is not a charity... it's a business... and they will release features that will benefit the MAJORITY of it's (PS3) users first and foremost prior to features with limited mass appeal. This is not saying that your desired feature is not important... far from it... but pissing off the majority of PS3 owners telling them that their desired feature is "NOT IMPORTANT" is

Ever heard of "you catch more bees with honey then vinegar?"

Perhaps you should attempt to endeer yourself to the majority of PS3 owners so they may support your cause... instead of shitting on their heads.

Food for thought.

Gone to see Montreal kick the ever loving shit out of Boston

Goodnight

nice unreal... on the above comments.

Calig..... Everyone has a gripe about something.. that happens to be yours but as for me.. DTS has been something i wanted more than anything when I bought the ps3.. now I am getting it so to me it is VERY important... and don't go into this whole prespective crap or there are a lot of things going on in the world that is much more important like i get all the time... Its an update to include the best sound capability (IMO) and sound to me is important..

[Squozen]

From Wikipedia:

High definition disc media (HD DVD, Blu-ray disc) uses SDH subtitles as the sole method because technical specifications do not require HD to support line 21 closed captions. Some blu-ray discs, however, are said to carry a closed caption stream that only displays through standard definition connections. Many HDTVs allow the end–user to customize the captions, including the ability to remove the black band.

You might get CC through a standard definition display, but the fact is that it doesn't work on an HDTV, and there's nothing Sony can do to fix that. As the above quote says, a SDH subtitle is the method used to support the deaf, so ask the studios to include them. They're supported by the PS3, absolutely.

[thepodest]

LOL I laugh at this thread.

Let me put it very simple.

People requested DTS-HD MA, so Sony put it in there. It's not about what's important it's about the majority.

[doctorsteve]

I just checked my collection and out of 45 Blu Movies - 36 were listed as subtitled in English for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (SDH) and three were listed as CC. Two were Concert BD's (NIN and David Gilmour) and had no SDH or CC listed. A few simply had English subtitles (like House of Flying Daggers).

So Caligula - is SDH and CC the same? (I'm asking an honest question here - don't go wigging out on me here...)

Doc

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

CLOSED CAPTIONING IS NOT IMPORTANT THEN EITHER!
IF YOU THINK IT IS THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN ***** ABOUT IT ON EVERY THREAD! CALL SONY! CALL THE STUDIOS! WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN! YOUR NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGHT TO TELL US WHAT IS OR IS NOT IMPORTANT!

Are you trying to speak louder so he can hear you?

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

Are you trying to speak louder so he can hear you?

I hope you mean like Garrett Morris from SNL, otherwise that's just not nice Marci...

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

I hope you mean like Garrett Morris from SNL, otherwise that's just not nice Marci...

I think you missed it. He caped everything so I presume he is yelling it out?! Not a statement to the OP AT ALL! Hear that?

[Caligula]

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

Are you trying to speak louder so he can hear you?

lol

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by Caligula

lol

Thanks. You understood what I meant. Was not directed twards you.

And yes, the Garret Morris stint was funny!

[Caligula]

depends... sdh and cc are similar but some sdh doesnt have black bar behind, some does.. cc will not have clear background and will use black bar behind text.
but, they will perform background noises and etc related to sound.

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

I just checked my collection and out of 45 Blu Movies - 36 were listed as subtitled in English for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (SDH) and three were listed as CC. Two were Concert BD's (NIN and David Gilmour) and had no SDH or CC listed. 1 simply had English subtitles (House of Flying Daggers).

So Caligula - is SDH and CC the same? (I'm asking an honest question here - don't go wigging out on me here...)

Doc

[Caligula]

closed captioned will work on HDTV, i have HD Cable and its plugged via hdmi, CC works fine on my HD TV.
I love watching tudors in HD with CC..

Originally Posted by Squozen

From Wikipedia:



You might get CC through a standard definition display, but the fact is that it doesn't work on an HDTV, and there's nothing Sony can do to fix that. As the above quote says, a SDH subtitle is the method used to support the deaf, so ask the studios to include them. They're supported by the PS3, absolutely.

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by Caligula

closed captioned will work on HDTV, i have HD Cable and its plugged via hdmi, CC works fine on my HD TV.
I love watching tudors in HD with CC..

Caligula, I have a question. Are you 100% deff and have you always been?

[Caligula]

Like i said earlier, i understand how important sounds to hearing people but it is not to me as deaf. Same as CC is not important to you but its to us deaf people. ANd i said I was happy for ya all have it.

I have nothing aganist DTS HD MA, i dont.
I want my feature as much you did with your dts hdma

Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

nice unreal... on the above comments.

Calig..... Everyone has a gripe about something.. that happens to be yours but as for me.. DTS has been something i wanted more than anything when I bought the ps3.. now I am getting it so to me it is VERY important... and don't go into this whole prespective crap or there are a lot of things going on in the world that is much more important like i get all the time... Its an update to include the best sound capability (IMO) and sound to me is important..