HD DVD almost even for Weekly Sales stats week ending 4/22 - Blu-ray Forum

blublublu · 04-28-2007, 03:15 PM

Hmmm. It could be a result of that HD DVD buyathon, but HD-DVD almost pulled even with Blu Ray in weekly sales stats for the week ending 4/22 (Blu Ray:HD-DVD ratio=52:48).

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

They've been moving higher in weekly sales each week for the last month or so.

Hopefully that trend will end for the next report.

If this a buyathon impact, it seems to have had a bigger impact than one might have suspected.

If not buyathon, that is also interesting.

GaS · 04-28-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blublublu

Hmmm. It could be a result of that HD DVD buyathon, but HD-DVD almost pulled even with Blu Ray in weekly sales stats for the week ending 4/22 (Blu Ray:HD-DVD ratio=52:48).

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

They've been moving higher in weekly sales each week for the last month or so.

Hopefully that trend will end for the next report.

If this a buyathon impact, it seems to have had a bigger impact than one might have suspected.

If not buyathon, that is also interesting.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see some weeks with HD-DVD close or even pull ahead for the week. All depends on whats coming out.

Greenmatiz2 · 04-28-2007, 03:30 PM

Would Amazon sales from the big 4/21 Blu-ray buy-a-thon have been added to that, or will they fall on next week?

I guess the next week-ending will be really interesting. No HD-DVD buy-a-thon. We'll see if it's a flash-in-the-pan or not.

stockstar1138 · 04-28-2007, 03:31 PM

I think this is comical. it is the impact or the buy-a-thon by the way. so after all the hd dvd fanboys went out and paid big $ to spike sales they still couldn't pass up blu-ray for even one week.

this weeks sales are going to be dominating for blu-ray.

Blue · 04-28-2007, 03:42 PM

I hate to think what the week of the 5th of June will be!

stockstar1138 · 04-28-2007, 03:46 PM

may 22 too. i am convinced that a lot of those hd dvd boys have already pre-ordered the matrix to boost sales for the buy-a-thon. i don't think we are going to see a ton of action from that title.

JTK · 04-28-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue

I hate to think what the week of the 5th of June will be!

Oh no...I like very much to think of what the week of June 5th will be.

nhaase · 04-28-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

Oh no...I like very much to think of what the week of June 5th will be.

I just checked eproductwars.com, and Blood Diamond is the #6 and 7 ranked title for BD and HD-DVD, respectively. Overall ranking:

BD: 208
HD-DVD: 495

Right now it's showing that the extras aren't affecting people. Seeing as how this title is still a month away, this movie is going to go very high, even w/out online polls (and who cares about that?)

Zaphod · 04-28-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blublublu

Blu Ray:HD-DVD ratio=52:48

Just a thought...wonder why they posted such high numbers for the ratio? A ratio of 13:12 looks so much cleaner.

stockstar1138 · 04-28-2007, 04:45 PM

its easier for people to do %s with #s that add up to 100.

Zaphod · 04-28-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

its easier for people to do %s with #s that add up to 100.

Thanks for pointing out the common sense answer

(as I crawl back in the hole whence I came...)

BTBuck1 · 04-28-2007, 05:29 PM

This is just amazons numbers. Not overall sales. We've known for months that HDDVD'ers are basically AVS'ers and they practically buy all their stuff online, being that amazon is generally the cheapest, a large % of their purchases are made there. Blu-ray however seems to sell a greater percentage at B&M's vs. HDDVD. So, wait for Neilson numbers...they will tell the normal 60-70% market share im sure.

JadedRaverLA · 04-28-2007, 05:30 PM

It definitely appears to be the effects of the HD DVD "buy" day, and it's somewhat impressive they were able to move the percentages so much.

But since the YTD number only moved 1%, and the Since Inception number didn't move at all, it appears to have been a very slow week over all.

RUR · 04-28-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1

wait for Neilson numbers...they will tell the normal 60-70% market share im sure.

These are the Nielsen numbers for this week. I'm sure there was an effect from the 4/15 buy day, exacerbated by the fact that HD DVD had a better release schedule for the week. Releases improve in BD's favor for the next couple of weeks, after which the BD release schedule is much superior thru mid-June.

Never a dull moment

bruce · 04-28-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

These are the Nielsen numbers for this week. I'm sure there was an effect from the 4/15 buy day, exacerbated by the fact that HD DVD had a better release schedule for the week. Releases improve in BD's favor for the next couple of weeks, after which the BD release schedule is much superior thru mid-June.

Never a dull moment

I thought that Nielsen did not count Amazon numbers, if so, I believe a lot on what got ordered were pre-orders ( for example, remember how high the Matrix went on that day vs. now ) and Nielsen does not count pre-orders.

BTBuck1 · 04-28-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

These are the Nielsen numbers for this week. I'm sure there was an effect from the 4/15 buy day, exacerbated by the fact that HD DVD had a better release schedule for the week. Releases improve in BD's favor for the next couple of weeks, after which the BD release schedule is much superior thru mid-June.

Never a dull moment

woops, i didn't even look at the link.
I assumed it was amazon sales figures.
But uhh...yeah...what you said. plus everything I said
(minus the neilsen part)

RUR · 04-28-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce

I thought that Nielsen did not count Amazon numbers, if so, I believe a lot on what got ordered were pre-orders ( for example, remember how high the Matrix went on that day vs. now ) and Nielsen does not count pre-orders.

Pretty sure Amazon is in the Nielsen numbers and that Grubert confirmed this. Yes, I suspect a substantial amount of the 4/15 "buys" were pre-orders which won't show in the Nielsen figures until the DVD ships. That's why I mentioned that the buy day (Nielsen w/e 4/17) could contribute to HD DVD sales for this past week (Nielsen w/e 4/22). Guess I wasn't sufficiently clear

Buy day pre-orders or late-filled sales will continue to fog the Nielsen figures for weeks to come. The good news is that Buy day should have depleted HD DVD buyers' wallets, thus reducing subsequent purchases.

teacher_man99 · 04-29-2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Blu-ray however seems to sell a greater percentage at B&M's vs. HDDVD.

I have to agree from my own purchasing. I have purchased most of my BDs from Best Buy and now Wal-Mart (which had Night at the Museum and Deja Vu BDs on sale this week, no HD DVDs on sale). My local Wal-Mart has increased the BD section to 4 "rows" while HD DVD only has 2 "rows".

I have purchased a few titles on-line, and have pre-ordered POTC 1 & 2 from Amazon. I also worked Buy.com for all it was worth (or all of my credit card addresses were worth) on the $10 off purchase. When I have the extra money to buy PE, I'm going to Amazon.

MrBogey · 04-29-2007, 01:20 AM

Same here with Walmart. They dropped HD to 8 slots and BD got raised to 16.

Greenmatiz2 · 04-29-2007, 01:50 AM

So when do they count the pre-orders as sales? When they ship?

If so, my Planet Earth shipped on the 24th, as did a lot of other pre-orders. So next week could be a wash between sales of ours/theirs as well?

And what happens when Amazon is out of stock? Do they not count it as sold until it is actually shipped? I wonder. A lot of people were put on backorder for that title. Luckily, I got in just in time, I figure.

04-28-2007, 03:15 PM	#1
blublublu Banned Member since:Jan 2007	HD DVD almost even for Weekly Sales stats week ending 4/22 Hmmm. It could be a result of that HD DVD buyathon, but HD-DVD almost pulled even with Blu Ray in weekly sales stats for the week ending 4/22 (Blu Ray:HD-DVD ratio=52:48). http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2 They've been moving higher in weekly sales each week for the last month or so. Hopefully that trend will end for the next report. If this a buyathon impact, it seems to have had a bigger impact than one might have suspected. If not buyathon, that is also interesting.

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04-28-2007, 03:30 PM	#3
Greenmatiz2 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Would Amazon sales from the big 4/21 Blu-ray buy-a-thon have been added to that, or will they fall on next week? I guess the next week-ending will be really interesting. No HD-DVD buy-a-thon. We'll see if it's a flash-in-the-pan or not.

04-28-2007, 03:31 PM	#4
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	I think this is comical. it is the impact or the buy-a-thon by the way. so after all the hd dvd fanboys went out and paid big $ to spike sales they still couldn't pass up blu-ray for even one week. this weeks sales are going to be dominating for blu-ray.

04-28-2007, 03:42 PM	#5
Blue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Melbourne Australia Blu-ray collection:206	I hate to think what the week of the 5th of June will be!

04-28-2007, 03:46 PM	#6
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	may 22 too. i am convinced that a lot of those hd dvd boys have already pre-ordered the matrix to boost sales for the buy-a-thon. i don't think we are going to see a ton of action from that title.

04-28-2007, 04:45 PM	#10
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	its easier for people to do %s with #s that add up to 100.

04-28-2007, 05:29 PM	#12
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	This is just amazons numbers. Not overall sales. We've known for months that HDDVD'ers are basically AVS'ers and they practically buy all their stuff online, being that amazon is generally the cheapest, a large % of their purchases are made there. Blu-ray however seems to sell a greater percentage at B&M's vs. HDDVD. So, wait for Neilson numbers...they will tell the normal 60-70% market share im sure.

04-28-2007, 05:30 PM	#13
JadedRaverLA Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	It definitely appears to be the effects of the HD DVD "buy" day, and it's somewhat impressive they were able to move the percentages so much. But since the YTD number only moved 1%, and the Since Inception number didn't move at all, it appears to have been a very slow week over all.

04-29-2007, 01:20 AM	#19
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	Same here with Walmart. They dropped HD to 8 slots and BD got raised to 16.

04-29-2007, 01:50 AM	#20
Greenmatiz2 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	So when do they count the pre-orders as sales? When they ship? If so, my Planet Earth shipped on the 24th, as did a lot of other pre-orders. So next week could be a wash between sales of ours/theirs as well? And what happens when Amazon is out of stock? Do they not count it as sold until it is actually shipped? I wonder. A lot of people were put on backorder for that title. Luckily, I got in just in time, I figure.

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