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Old 01-27-2015, 04:12 PM   #2841
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Checked the scenes in question last night and, yes, the compression artifacts are there (on a 47-inch screen). Are they enough to ruin the full presentation of the film? Not really. However, given that this is a limited edition premium collectible edition of the film at a premium price, I would expect a bit more quality control here. I understand that not all the masters Twilight Time gets are the best, but in this case the artifacting is due to poor encoding of the listed shots.
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Old 01-27-2015, 04:25 PM   #2842
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Haven't watched the new version myself yet, but based on all the comparison screenshots going around--I definitely prefer the look of the older release. Sad that Twilight Time didn't get this one right; guess it will go in the junk pile (along with NOTLD'90 and TT's release of The Fury).
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:06 PM   #2843
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For all the owners of the new release that are so unhappy about it and prefer the older one, I have a solution...

Sell me your slightly used copy.

I will gladly pay the $30 you forked over for the release and rid you of that terrible item.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:09 PM   #2844
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I guess ignorance can be bliss at times. I have no idea what to look for when it comes to "compression issues". Someone mentioned seeing it on their 47" TV, mine is 46" and I thought the movie looked great.

I know we should all be demanding the best transfers these companies can give and I don't like "settling" but I think I reached the point where I truly don't care to train my eyes to see certain things like edge enhancement. I hear Batman Begins is one of the worst offenders for EE yet I don't really see it while the movie is playing. Even when I pause it and strain my eyes I still don't quite see those outlines.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:15 PM   #2845
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I guess ignorance can be bliss at times. I have no idea what to look for when it comes to "compression issues". Someone mentioned seeing it on their 47" TV, mine is 46" and I thought the movie looked great.

I know we should all be demanding the best transfers these companies can give and I don't like "settling" but I think I reached the point where I truly don't care to train my eyes to see certain things like edge enhancement. I hear Batman Begins is one of the worst offenders for EE yet I don't really see it while the movie is playing. Even when I pause it and strain my eyes I still don't quite see those outlines.
Well that's because it's The Dark Knight that suffers from some EE.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:16 PM   #2846
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Do people complain about the video quality, whenever they go and see a movie at the theater, and complain about it to the manager, after paying their money? If not, then why do it at home....This compression issue is very easy to be resolve! Either they keep the blu-ray, or resell it, if they don't want it. I'm quite sure they won't have any problems getting rid of it. Somebody will gladly take Fright Night off of their hands, with or without alleged compression issues. It's impossible to please everybody.. A one man's junk, is another man's treasure!
Not really a good comparison. Most people will watch a movie they own on Blu-Ray much more than they would watch it at the cinema, so therefore any issues would be a bigger deal once you own the movie.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:21 PM   #2847
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Judging from the DVDbeaver screenshots, the new Blurays has much better depiction of grain!!
The old one looks a tad DNRed comparing to the new one.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:25 PM   #2848
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Judging from the DVDbeaver screenshots, the new Blurays has much better depiction of grain!!
The old one looks a tad DNRed comparing to the new one.
The difference is due to encoding and brightness levels being adjusted. Not noise reduction. They both come from the same master. (So it's been stated by TT.)

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Old 01-27-2015, 05:25 PM   #2849
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somebody said it earlier... this really is one of the worst threads ever...

first everyone's freaking out about getting a copy

then everyone's fighting about scalpers

then everyone's freaking out because their copy hasn;t shipped fast enough

then complaining about the case

now the disc itself and wanting Screen Archives/Twilight Time to address minor compression artifacts


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Old 01-27-2015, 05:27 PM   #2850
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The difference is due to encoding and brightness levels being adjusted. Not noise reduction. They both come from the same master.
I do wonder why the brightness was adjusted. Was this something Sony did, or did TT do this?
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:33 PM   #2851
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I do wonder why the brightness was adjusted. Was this something Sony did, or did TT do this?
Well TT stated it was the same 4K master as before. Either a Brightness adjustment (Or a Gamma shift) during the encoding process is my best guess unless Sony re-tweeked the master before re-providing it to TT. Thinking Taxi Driver Master in 4K.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:40 PM   #2852
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Well that's because it's The Dark Knight that suffers from some EE.
They both do then because I do in fact remember how many people were complaining about the EE in Batman Begins. With The Dark Knight I believe it was mainly the color timing that people had a problem with. Either way, both films look fine to me and as far as color timing, although I saw TDK in the theater multiple times I couldn't tell you what the color timing was like for a film that came out about 6-7 years ago so I don't have any real comparison to make.

All I know is that I'm happy with this release of Fright Night and am glad to own it on Blu-ray finally.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:40 PM   #2853
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Not really a good comparison. Most people will watch a movie they own on Blu-Ray much more than they would watch it at the cinema, so therefore any issues would be a bigger deal once you own the movie.
It's not a comparison! If the movie looked good enough in the theater (without any complaints about the video), then it's good enough when you see it at home on blu-ray.

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Old 01-27-2015, 05:56 PM   #2854
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It's not a comparison! If the movie looked good enough in the theater (without any complaints about the video), then it's good enough when you see it at home on blu-ray.
Well considering when you watched a film in theater you weren't watching something that was digitally created back then and wouldn't have noticed digital anomalies as there would be none to be found.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:33 PM   #2855
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Nor do I. It's still a beautiful presentation. That said, the new transfer is marginally superior. And while I haven't delved into the extras yet, I'm looking forward to doing so.
What do you mean by marginally superior and what size tv are you using? Also, how close do you sit to notice a difference between both releases?
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:25 PM   #2856
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My German copy was suppose to arrive a week ago but never came. I contacted amazon.de and they told me they could not help me..... I will never order from outside the US again.. Guess it is not meant for me to own this film.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:44 PM   #2857
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It's not a comparison! If the movie looked good enough in the theater (without any complaints about the video), then it's good enough when you see it at home on blu-ray.
So you're saying no complaints about the video in the above post yet in your first post you mention gripes about video quality..

Which one is it?

"Do people gripe about the video quality, whenever they go and see a movie at the theater, and complain about it to the manager, after they've paid their money? If not, then why do it at home....This compression issue is very easy to be resolve! Either they keep the blu-ray, or resell it, if they don't want it. I'm quite sure they won't have any problems getting rid of it. Somebody will gladly take Fright Night off of their hands, with or without the alleged compression issues. It's impossible to please everybody.. A one man's junk, is another man's treasure!"
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:28 PM   #2858
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I have both the original TT release and the new 30th Anniversary version.

Is there any reason for me to get one of the Sony releases from around the world (better PQ / AQ, more extras, etc. ?)

Also, are all the international Sony releases identical?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:28 PM   #2859
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It's not a comparison! If the movie looked good enough in the theater (without any complaints about the video), then it's good enough when you see it at home on blu-ray.
I might be misreading what you wrote, but isn't this akin to saying "If it looked good enough in the theater, it looks good enough on VHS?"

How something looks in the theater has no bearing on how it will look on a home video format.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:33 PM   #2860
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My German copy was suppose to arrive a week ago but never came. I contacted amazon.de and they told me they could not help me..... I will never order from outside the US again.. Guess it is not meant for me to own this film.
I've had a few orders from Amazon.de that took forever to get to me, but I've never had one go missing. Just give it a little more time...
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