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Old 01-26-2015, 02:59 AM   #2761
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I have a feeling that it won't matter which is actually better. There will be a lot of people who say lighter is worse because they couldn't get copies, and people who will say lighter is better because they could. I'm just excited to own a copy on Blu-ray with the features.
Or folks who have the first release and are happy with it I have no complaints with the first TT BD.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:39 AM   #2762
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Or folks who have the first release and are happy with it I have no complaints with the first TT BD.
Nor do I. It's still a beautiful presentation. That said, the new transfer is marginally superior. And while I haven't delved into the extras yet, I'm looking forward to doing so.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:58 AM   #2763
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Are there any forum members who are selling a copy for a 'reasonable' price?
I private messaged you regarding this, but I have yet to hear back from you.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:03 AM   #2764
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Nor do I. It's still a beautiful presentation. That said, the new transfer is marginally superior. And while I haven't delved into the extras yet, I'm looking forward to doing so.
I only have the original, but Im surprised there isnt more debate over the boosted contrast?
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:13 AM   #2765
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Wow! That's a nice little film combo there! Enjoy both!
Kinda disappointed a bit with Battle of the Five Armies, hoping that the eventual extended edition adds more to the story like the extended version of The Desolation of Smaug did.

It's been almost 20 years since I've seen Fright Night from start to finish, I honestly had forgotten nearly everything that happened during the nightclub scene. And while I don't have the original release to compare the 30th anniversary edition to, the new release looks amazing, soft in places and you can tell in spots where lesser quality film stock was used.

But overall I can't say how pleased I am to have this title in my collection (finally), and despite nearly pulling the trigger several times buying the original release for well over the initial asking price. Glad I waited to see if their was going to be a re-release.

On tomorrow's agenda, watching The Purple Rose of Cairo, another film I haven't seen for 20+ years... and remember very little about it, other then liking the film at the time.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:16 AM   #2766
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old, damn i was 9 years out of high school at the time so i must be almost dead, very happy that i was able to get Fright Night this go around
Well, yeah. You might not be around for the next one
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:55 AM   #2767
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I watched the new BD of this and was quite annoyed to find a few scenes with distracting compression problems. I watched this projected on a 106 inch screen and found the following scenes stood out,

Chapter 6 - 23.17 the side pan on Sarandon's legs sitting in the chair.
26.13 Charlie coming down the stairs

Chapter 10 - 43.26 the side pan on the clocks up to the point Sarandon takes the phone.

Chapter 13 - Evil Ed walking in the fog.

I checked all the same scenes in the original Twilight Time release and the compression is rock solid without the artifacts in those scenes on the new release.
I doubt this would be much of an issue for those watching on smaller screens, but the compression in these scenes on the new disc I found very annoying.
If anyone else here owns both releases and watches on a 100+ inch screen compare them with the scenes I mentioned and report back to me.

I was planning to ditch the original Twilight release, but no chance of that now.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:48 AM   #2768
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I watched the new BD of this and was quite annoyed to find a few scenes with distracting compression problems. I watched this projected on a 106 inch screen and found the following scenes stood out,

Chapter 6 - 23.17 the side pan on Sarandon's legs sitting in the chair.
26.13 Charlie coming down the stairs

Chapter 10 - 43.26 the side pan on the clocks up to the point Sarandon takes the phone.

Chapter 13 - Evil Ed walking in the fog.

I checked all the same scenes in the original Twilight Time release and the compression is rock solid without the artifacts in those scenes on the new release.
I doubt this would be much of an issue for those watching on smaller screens, but the compression in these scenes on the new disc I found very annoying.
If anyone else here owns both releases and watches on a 100+ inch screen compare them with the scenes I mentioned and report back to me.

I was planning to ditch the original Twilight release, but no chance of that now.
Hmmm.. That is not good..
Can you post any screenshot?
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:08 PM   #2769
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You certainly won’t need a 100” screen to see the picture quality problems on this new release.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:23 PM   #2770
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I watched the new BD of this and was quite annoyed to find a few scenes with distracting compression problems. I watched this projected on a 106 inch screen and found the following scenes stood out,

Chapter 6 - 23.17 the side pan on Sarandon's legs sitting in the chair.
26.13 Charlie coming down the stairs

Chapter 10 - 43.26 the side pan on the clocks up to the point Sarandon takes the phone.

Chapter 13 - Evil Ed walking in the fog.

I checked all the same scenes in the original Twilight Time release and the compression is rock solid without the artifacts in those scenes on the new release.
I doubt this would be much of an issue for those watching on smaller screens, but the compression in these scenes on the new disc I found very annoying.
If anyone else here owns both releases and watches on a 100+ inch screen compare them with the scenes I mentioned and report back to me.

I was planning to ditch the original Twilight release, but no chance of that now.
I just checked your first three examples and see the same issues on the new release. The old release looks fine. I don't know that I would've given much thought to it had I not been looking for it, but, still... that's too bad that new PQ issues are introduced in this new release. I guess the original pressing is somewhat special after all!
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:49 PM   #2771
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The new release is flat (lacks depth) and washed out, with higher definition, true, but the German et. seq. releases have better image quality.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:20 PM   #2772
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Glad I held on to the original release as well. I knew something like this was most likely going to happen. Glad to have the new version as well for the extras, of course, but strange how the film gets a higher bitrate, but the compression is worse.

A quick look on Amazon, and you can buy the 30th Anniversary Edition new for $85 and there are no used ones. The lowest price for the earlier release is $130 and that's for a used copy, new starts at $190. I wonder if everyone will still be selling off their earlier version now, or hold on to it instead, and it will be interesting to monitor the prices on these two releases.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:27 PM   #2773
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Still "pending"............six days post release! Not even a notification on my account of "preparing to ship"..............
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:28 PM   #2774
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Glad I held on to the original release as well. I knew something like this was most likely going to happen. Glad to have the new version as well for the extras, of course, but strange how the film gets a higher bitrate, but the compression is worse.

A quick look on Amazon, and you can buy the 30th Anniversary Edition new for $85 and there are no used ones. The lowest price for the earlier release is $130 and that's for a used copy, new starts at $190. I wonder if everyone will still be selling off their earlier version now, or hold on to it instead, and it will be interesting to monitor the prices on these two releases.
It's crazy that they go for so much. Especially the new one that just came out. This is why there are scalpers out there...... as long as someone is willing to pay 4x the cost of the retail price someone will always scalp them.

As I stated before, I have the 1st release, the Australian release, and the 30th anniversary release. If however I wasn't lucky enough to buy either of the TT releases upon release, there's no way I'd spend that kind of money for it. The import is definitely more than adequate and definitely a deal.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:29 PM   #2775
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Glad I held on to the original release as well. I knew something like this was most likely going to happen. Glad to have the new version as well for the extras, of course, but strange how the film gets a higher bitrate, but the compression is worse.
I had mine listed and pulled it once I saw the post about the compression issues.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:40 PM   #2776
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I think the bitrate on the original release is fine. It has a highly variable bitrate which means that the average bitrate will be lower. The peaks are where they need to be and less bits are wasted. As long as a sufficient bitrate is allocated to a specific scene, then throwing more bits at it won't make it look any better.

The compression issue is probably due to the encoding, not the bitrate.

The newer release looks slightly more defined in some scenes (especially the darker ones), simply because it's brighter and brings out more grain and shadow detail. It doesn't have anything to do with having a higher bitrate.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:47 PM   #2777
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Anyone else had any luck getting a replacement? My cover art and case were damaged and it would be nice to get a replacement. I'm checking on the disc as I text.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:59 PM   #2778
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Anyone else had any luck getting a replacement? My cover art and case were damaged and it would be nice to get a replacement. I'm checking on the disc as I text.
That sucks. I feel your pain on a regular basis thanks to the flimsy bubble mailers/plastic bags that seem to be the most popular shipping method. Luckily, I've never ran into issues with these TT releases yet.

I'd bet you might have better luck with Twilight Time directly. I'll be surprised if SAE have any extras set aside for replacements.
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I just checked your first three examples and see the same issues on the new release. The old release looks fine. I don't know that I would've given much thought to it had I not been looking for it, but, still... that's too bad that new PQ issues are introduced in this new release. I guess the original pressing is somewhat special after all!
Any average viewer wouldn't have notice these issues. The only reason why you've detected it, is because that's what you were specifically looking for, after when somebody else mentioned it. Otherwise you wouldn't have never noticed it either. The old cliche always says: If you look for trouble, you will find it!

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Old 01-26-2015, 05:17 PM   #2780
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Any average viewer wouldn't have notice these issues. The only reason why you've detected it, is because that's what you were specifically looking for, after when somebody else did. Otherwise you wouldn't have never noticed it either.
Didn't I pretty much say that in my post?

Although, I think the issue during the pan across the clocks would've been noticed, but I probably would've blamed the motion enhancer on my projector. It's nothing I would've considered "defective", for sure.

I'm not saying it's at all a huge deal. If one is going to call the PQ on one version "better" than the other, then the original release may possibly be slightly better. I'm not sure if the other reported visual improvements in the newer release (I think someone reported something being better) offset any of these discovered artifacts.
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