Heat (1995) (Director's Definitive Edition) - Page 14 - Blu-ray Forum

Karmasux96 · 09-16-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Would be nice if James Finn can share more details on the audio side. If someone can ask him, that would be nice.

https://twitter.com/finnj

The current Blu-ray transfer still stands good. But the audio; I hate it. Dialogue volume is horrible.

Now with Dolby Atmos, dialogue volume control is no longer an issue.

I'd love some truly extensive bonus material, but the audio is hands down my biggest complaint about the current disc. Watched this recently and my neighbors probably thought that the armored truck was coming through their wall.

Tech-UK · 09-16-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Karmasux96

I'd love some truly extensive bonus material, but the audio is hands down my biggest complaint about the current disc. Watched this recently and my neighbors probably thought that the armored truck was coming through their wall.

That's the point.

The dynamic range of the track is how it should be done. Dialogue low volume with crashes, explosions and gunshots high volume.

42041 · 09-16-2015, 04:15 PM

There's that dynamic range compression thingamajig on your receivers for precisely this reason - use it. I don't want Mann's mix, unusual as it is, compromised for your neighbors' delicate sensibilities.

dvdmike · 09-16-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

That's the point.

The dynamic range of the track is how it should be done. Dialogue low volume with crashes, explosions and gunshots high volume.

But is it original?

Edinburghoscar · 09-16-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scholer

The same restoration team that literally screwed The Last of the Mohicans on Blu-ray! No welcome!

What makes you say that ?

Tech-UK · 09-16-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

But is it original?

Good question. If Mann approved this track, that is good enough for me.

I do find that Mann's film's feature this type of volume mixing, but Heat seems to be the one that people complain about the most.

CBHampson · 09-16-2015, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scholer

The same restoration team that literally screwed The Last of the Mohicans on Blu-ray! No welcome!

That is truly disgusting.

dvdmike · 09-16-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

Good question. If Mann approved this track, that is good enough for me.

I do find that Mann's film's feature this type of volume mixing, but Heat seems to be the one that people complain about the most.

It has issues that did not exist in other formats.
Problem is Mann cannot leave well alone in both picture and sound

Tech-UK · 09-16-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

It has issues that did not exist in other formats.

I would use the term 'differs', as I don't think that it is an issue, regarding the audio.

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Problem is Mann cannot leave well alone in both picture and sound

True, although I haven't been disappointed with any Mann film that I have on Blu-ray, but I do understand those who want the original elements.

svenge · 09-16-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

I haven't been disappointed with any Mann film that I have on Blu-ray

Even the piss-yellow and overly-darkened rendition of Last of the Mohicans?

UseY0ur1llusi0n · 09-17-2015, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

If Mann's involved, it is going to be interesting to see and hear the result.

toddly6666 · 09-17-2015, 03:15 AM

- 4K restoration
- Dolby Atmos
- Visual upgrade of changing the look of Heat from film to digital

That would be a nightmare. If Mann agreed to make this movie look digital like his newer films, that would just be awful!

Drooch · 09-17-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Maggot

Unfortunately, OLED has motion issues, but it certainly has captured the richness, be it the color and black levels, of plasma.......

Wait, are you saying that if I buy a 4K OLED it'll have poorer motion handling than my Kuro plasma?

moonchild69 · 09-20-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

Wait, are you saying that if I buy a 4K OLED it'll have poorer motion handling than my Kuro plasma?

Most Definitely! Who wants video motion!

dvdmike · 09-20-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

Wait, are you saying that if I buy a 4K OLED it'll have poorer motion handling than my Kuro plasma?

I hate they no longer make plasma

Wickerman1972 · 09-20-2015, 06:31 PM

Well, this needed to happen. I have the blu ray that's been around a while and it's pretty rough looking.

tylergfoster · 09-20-2015, 07:33 PM

I watched the current Blu-ray last year and it looks great.

dvdmike · 09-20-2015, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972

Well, this needed to happen. I have the blu ray that's been around a while and it's pretty rough looking.

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Originally Posted by tylergfoster

I watched the current Blu-ray last year and it looks great.

It's more in the middle

Wickerman1972 · 09-20-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

It's more in the middle

Yeah, I have far worse: Bad Boys, Frailty, etc. But considering the quality of the film the old transfer isn't worthy of it and has been needing a redo in a big way.

Egons Ghost · 09-21-2015, 05:18 PM

Heck I was coming from that weirdly squashed DVD, so for me the current Blu-Ray looks great. I lament the tinkering of the Great Ass scene but it was enough of an improvement for me to accept it. I would gladly buy a new BD, even if it's the same cut.

09-16-2015, 04:15 PM	#263
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	There's that dynamic range compression thingamajig on your receivers for precisely this reason - use it. I don't want Mann's mix, unusual as it is, compromised for your neighbors' delicate sensibilities.

09-17-2015, 03:15 AM	#272
toddly6666 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Hong Kong Home Theater Gallery:20 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1441 DVD collection:31 Blu-ray reviews: 290 Trading Score:61	- 4K restoration - Dolby Atmos - Visual upgrade of changing the look of Heat from film to digital That would be a nightmare. If Mann agreed to make this movie look digital like his newer films, that would just be awful!

09-20-2015, 06:31 PM	#276
Wickerman1972 Senior Member Member since:May 2014 Location:USA 4K collection:159 Blu-ray collection:777	Well, this needed to happen. I have the blu ray that's been around a while and it's pretty rough looking.

09-20-2015, 07:33 PM	#277
tylergfoster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:911 Blu-ray collection:4578 DVD collection:1157 MA collection:2172 Digital collection:1730 iTunes collection:51 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:249	I watched the current Blu-ray last year and it looks great.

09-21-2015, 05:18 PM	#280
Egons Ghost Expert Member Member since:Dec 2013 Location:666**, ZIP Code of the Damned	Heck I was coming from that weirdly squashed DVD, so for me the current Blu-Ray looks great. I lament the tinkering of the Great Ass scene but it was enough of an improvement for me to accept it. I would gladly buy a new BD, even if it's the same cut.

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