House: Two Stories (1986-1987) (Limited Edition)

[filmbuffTX]

Originally Posted by AssertedWolf

Yeah that wont work because when I called amazon and asked they said they couldn't do us dollars to pounds. it's okay I have the US version ordered so I'm happy. those are my two favorites anyways. has anybody got in pics of what the full US version will look like unboxed? like the book and such.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...8#post13393398

[AssertedWolf]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...8#post13393398

thanks so much for that buddy. that looks pretty awesome regardless of which version I get.

[AssertedWolf]

I know you guys don't know me really but I just received some good news. if everything goes right then I'll be able to get the UK version cause my brother is going to help me out.

[MTRodaba2468]

Saw that my UK box set shipped last night. I'm looking forward to getting the set.

[joeriggsbee]

I was going to order this on arrow's us site how is their shipping/delivery?

[AssertedWolf]

I ordered the UK set but I'm a little confused is House 3 and 4 US region locked and only 1 and 2 will work or will they all play on US bluray players? because on the back of the cases for 3 and 4 it says region B. sorry I don't order out of country at all.

[TripleHBK]

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[AssertedWolf]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

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Thanks! This is such awesome news. I liked the UK cover better than the US version because the way the hand is opening the door it's like it is inviting you in. haha

[infiniteCR]

Watched the DVDs again not too long ago and the story just didnt hold up as well as my memory would have thought.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Originally Posted by AssertedWolf

Thanks! This is such awesome news. I liked the UK cover better than the US version because the way the hand is opening the door it's like it is inviting you in. haha

I also prefer the UK set's cover too, largely because the more colorful color scheme fits the sorta EC Comics style horror the series has, whereas the color scheme of the US set is rather drab and dreary.

[Goblins]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

I also prefer the UK set's cover too, largely because the more colorful color scheme fits the sorta EC Comics style horror the series has, whereas the color scheme of the US set is rather drab and dreary.

I like the artwork for both, the US set brings back those Blockbuster video shelf memories. I'm pretty psyched to get my hands on this release.

[Nosferatu31]

Originally Posted by joeriggsbee

I was going to order this on arrow's us site how is their shipping/delivery?

Not sure about their shipping/delivery but it's $20 cheaper from Diabolik with 2 day shipping and excellent packaging to ensure it arrives undamaged.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Arrow have GOT to be kidding? Had a look through House to see what the PQ was like and it's another Hellraiser III situation: title screens positioned perfectly but the composition is ruined by a lot of new information being added to the left-hand side of the image (most likely the soundtrack area which was never meant to be seen), saw a few goofs as well in addition to the obviously misaligned image. Skipped through the chapters on House II and of course I see a lighting stand at the very edge of the left-hand side. It doesn't look to be as egregious as the original since the composition isn't obviously off and I likely wouldn't have noticed if not for the goofs.

When you pay a premium you expect a high quality product, not this. I gave Arrow the benefit of the doubt when it came to Hellraiser III since it was Lakeshore who remastered it but Arrow themselves remastered Creepshow 2, House and House II. This is completely inexcusable.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Arrow have GOT to be kidding? Had a look through House to see what the PQ was like and it's another Hellraiser III situation: title screens positioned perfectly but the composition is ruined by a lot of new information being added to the left-hand side of the image (most likely the soundtrack area which was never meant to be seen), saw a few goofs as well in addition to the obviously misaligned image. Skipped through the chapters on House II and of course I see a lighting stand at the very edge of the left-hand side. It doesn't look to be as egregious as the original since the composition isn't obviously off and I likely wouldn't have noticed if not for the goofs.

When you pay a premium you expect a high quality product, not this. I gave Arrow the benefit of the doubt when it came to Hellraiser III since it was Lakeshore who remastered it but Arrow themselves remastered Creepshow 2, House and House II. This is completely inexcusable.

Brutal! How are they not noticing these obvious framing issues ahead of time, or do they just not care?

[StingingVelvet]

I don't think it's a coincidence they're all from the same company, whether Arrow says they did these themselves or not. They mentioned in the Hellraiser III response that they often can't change what the studio wants, so maybe Lakeshore is insisting on the opened-up framing. Who knows.

I thought Creepshow 2 looked fine but Hellraiser III looked terrible, so it will be interesting see what I think here.

[painiac]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I don't think it's a coincidence they're all from the same company, whether Arrow says they did these themselves or not. They mentioned in the Hellraiser III response that they often can't change what the studio wants, so maybe Lakeshore is insisting on the opened-up framing. Who knows.

I thought Creepshow 2 looked fine but Hellraiser III looked terrible, so it will be interesting see what I think here.

i'm willing to believe this, but some sort of disclaimer wouldn't be so hard, would it?

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Brutal! How are they not noticing these obvious framing issues ahead of time, or do they just not care?

Probably both, I mean just look at their terrible and misguided attempt to excuse the issues with Hellraiser III:

http://arrowvideodeck.blogspot.co.uk...storation.html

It's strange that these issues seem to only affect Lakeshore titles but Arrow have messed up in the past with Blood and Black Lace by cropping it to 1.66:1 noticeably cutting off information at both sides. See Pro-B's review:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Blood...122917/#Review

What's funny is that Pro-B was easily able to contact those in the know who quickly confirmed his suspicions. If Arrow thought to d the same then the release would probably be fine. No replacements have been made for Blood and Black Lace, Hellraiser III or Creepshow 2. When Criterion messed up Dressed to Kill by adding the soundtrack area to the Blu-ray, they quickly recalled and replaced the discs.

[StingingVelvet]

The 1.66:1 thing might just be because they're form Europe, where that was a common ratio for a long time. Not saying who's right or wrong or whatever but I think that's a separate issue. I honestly can't see how anyone could argue these all being Lakeshore movies is a coincidence. Lakeshore either set the ratio on these or gave Arrow information which made them set it how they have. It literally cannot be a coincidence that out of 100s of titles only their Lakeshore licenses have this issue.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

The 1.66:1 thing might just be because they're form Europe, where that was a common ratio for a long time. Not saying who's right or wrong or whatever but I think that's a separate issue. I honestly can't see how anyone could argue these all being Lakeshore movies is a coincidence. Lakeshore either set the ratio on these or gave Arrow information which made them set it how they have. It literally cannot be a coincidence that out of 100s of titles only their Lakeshore licenses have this issue.

If they wanted the European ratio then they would have added more to the top and bottom of the frame instead of cropping the sides. Pro-B was able to ascertain that the framing Arrow used was hard-matted for 1.85:1.

As for the Lakeshore titles, Arrow are either ignorant or are being disingenuous as they have constantly made up excuses for both Hellraiser III and Creepshow 2 claiming that they are correct. If they were told they couldn't adjust the image because of Lakeshore's demands then they should have said so instead of coming up with ridiculous excuses.

[mhb2862]

Edit: JohnCarpenterFan is right. Ignore my ill informed post. Keeping as it was so you can shame me for my bad opinions.

On the subject of Blood and Black Lace, there was apparently sufficient evidence the film was shown in both aspect ratios. Arrow chose 1.66:1 over 1.85:1 because they thought that was more accurate to how the film was originally framed. Some people agree and some disagree, but there's no objective evidence saying one is more "accurate" than the other. It's similar to the Night of the Living Dead aspect ratio debate, except we can ask the director, and Romero has given his definitive answer on that one. Should Arrow have included more than one aspect ratio for Blood & Black Lace? Absolutely. Was the one that they did include incorrect? Not at all, despite the opinions of some reviewers.

On the subject of House, Hellraiser, Creepshow, and any other titles with this issue moving forward, it seems to be a big oversight. It's something that should be corrected with a replacement program. But there's a difference between making a choice (B&BL) and making a mistake (Hellraiser II et.al).