The Criterion Collection

[thebratpackwrangler]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Doubt it would happen, but I'd love to see Peeping Tom and Equinox get announced for October.

Peeping Tom!!!

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by DoctorShazbot

I joined a long time ago, but never really used the forum or catalogued anything until this year.

Well to answer your question:

You're equating grain with being less sharp when the opposite is true, things will look sharper if there is more grain. If you put grainy films through a filter to remove the grain then you'd also suck out the details of the image.

[thebratpackwrangler]

I hope for October they choose one of these

Lost Highway
Inland Empire
Funny Games (1997)
Caché
Hedwig And The Angry Inch
Peeping Tom

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by DoctorShazbot

I've heard this before, but why is this a good thing? It looks low quality, and it makes it harder to see the image. Isn't the purpose of Blu-ray and 4K to make things sharper?

See it's not necessarily low-quality though. Like Arch said, filtering film removes detail. Grain IS detail. It depends on the movie. BTW 4k is essentially the digital equivalent of 35mm film but again, it varies from source to source. Filtering defeats the point of high resolution home releases in the first place; they stop looking how they were made to look.

[145gtw]

Originally Posted by hagios

Gangsters/Political Thrillers

Carol Reed's in-print stuff might be right up your political thriller alley.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

You're equating grain with being less sharp when the opposite is true, things will look sharper if there is more grain.

That's...also not entirely true. Grain and sharpeness are both details, increasing detail increases both relative to their previous states, but some films are inherently grainier than others. Throwing digital grain over something won't make it any sharper, nor will choosing grainier film stock.

[captainron_howdy]

Originally Posted by CinemaBlu

Yeah, I was in Naples a few years ago, driving through a shady looking area and a friend I was with told me about the book, then said a film was made from it. I saw the film first but haven't gotten around to the book yet. The film is great but I've been holding off on buying it because I think it was originally part of that bad batch of rotting discs that Criterion put out around nine years ago. I think most of the bad copies must surely be gone by now and I can finally pick it up during the B&N sale.

You should totally be good to grab the Criterion & now is the best time. Also, I meant to say Gomorrah is one of my favorite films in the CC. Matteo Garrone is an amazing director and has a new film called Dogman coming out this year that looks great. Then, Roberto Saviano, the author of Gomorrah has a book all about drug trafficking that I really need to read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eum93mpzpE0

https://www.amazon.com/ZeroZeroZero-Cocaine-Powder-Through-American/dp/0143109375/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1531063681&sr=8-3&keywords=roberto+saviano

[Richard--W]

I want Criterion to release blurays of these Hitchcock films NOW:

1927 Downhill
1928 The Farmer's Wife
1929 The Manxman
1931 The Skin Game
1931 Rich and Strange
1932 Number 17
1936 Sabotage
1937 Young and Innocent

What are they waiting for? If Criterion can stream them they put them on disc, too.

Note that

1927 Easy Virtue
1927 The Ring
1928 Champagne
1929 Blackmail (sound and silent versions)
1930 Juno and the Paycock
1930 Murder
1936 Secret Agent

are conspicuously missing from the streaming list, so perhaps Criterion will have to negotiate for those.

What are they waiting for?

[jbieste]

Originally Posted by hagios

Alright my fellow Criterion lovers, I've got a question for you all as I'm going for my 2nd round soon! I would like to get some more (if Criterion has any more that I do not have that are similar) in subtle Horror, Westerns & Gangsters/Political Thrillers! Any help is very much appreciated!!

Blow Out and Thief should be ones you'd be comfortable with owning.

Some outside of your preferred zones:

A period melodrama that was packed with subtext - All That Heaven Allows many layers and one you can find commentaries about with a little searching.

Here Comes Mr. Jordan, I'd seen Warren Beatty's Heaven Can Wait not realizing at the time it was one of many re-makes of which Here Comes Mr. Jordan is one.
It Happened One Night is another good screwball comedy.
Another comedy I like is Day for Night probably because it's a film about making a film.

Tootsie when I go back to it every couple years surprises me on how well made it was.
Another from that era is The Graduate.
The Before Trilogy by Richard Linklater is great at how he takes a small slice and expands it. Best viewed with months or years between films.

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by mrjohnnyb

The next announcement, which should be on Monday, July 16th, will be for the month of October. Usually, a horror title is announced. I would gladly accept any of these titles:

Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
The Tenant (Roman Polanski, 1976)
Hour of the Wolf (Ingmar Bergman, 1968)
The Devils (Ken Russell, 1971)
I Walked with a Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997)
Night of the Demon (Jacques Tourneur, 1957)
Häxan upgrade (Benjamin Christensen, 1922)

This is a good list. I can't seem to respond well to Haneke but I second your other requests.

Hour of the Wolf is major Bergman. I wish Criterion get to work on several of the Bergman masterpieces available to them, including a box-set of his vastly under-rated and seldom-seen TV plays, which he shot just like feature films plus the films he wrote for directors Liv Ullman and Billie August.

I hope for more genre titles by Polanski:

1967 The Fearless Vampire Killers
1976 The Tenant -- with a copy of Topor's thin and scarce novella in the pack.
1986 Pirates

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

What are they waiting for? If Criterion can stream them they put them on disc, too.

What are they waiting for?

I think your answer lies in whether or not their last early Hitchcock release, The Lodger, was a hit or not.

I'm curious to see if anybody here has some good info to provide on this. The best I can gather is that there are close to 300 Criterion bluray titles that are in more collections here at bluray.com (which would roughly put it in the bottom half in terms of popularity).

[captainron_howdy]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

I want Criterion to release blurays of these Hitchcock films NOW:

1927 Downhill
1928 The Farmer's Wife
1929 The Manxman
1931 The Skin Game
1931 Rich and Strange
1932 Number 17
1936 Sabotage
1937 Young and Innocent

What are they waiting for? If Criterion can stream them they put them on disc, too.

Note that

1927 Easy Virtue
1927 The Ring
1928 Champagne
1929 Blackmail (sound and silent versions)
1930 Juno and the Paycock
1930 Murder
1936 Secret Agent

are conspicuously missing from the streaming list, so perhaps Criterion will have to negotiate for those.

What are they waiting for?

Downhill is on disc, it's included on The Lodger Criterion release.

[jbieste]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

I want Criterion to release blurays of these Hitchcock films NOW:
Note that
1929 Blackmail (sound and silent versions)
are conspicuously missing from the streaming list, so perhaps Criterion will have to negotiate for those.
What are they waiting for?

I saw something come through about a new DVD release by FilmRise come through on Blackmail. It was listed as Digitally Remastered and I believe Made On Demand so probably DVD-R. Had never heard of FilmRise but believe we picked up a few for circulation. No idea what that means about its rights situation but guessing there must have been some work done on the film.

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by kingdoxie

Thoughts on Eclipse Series 17: Nikkatsu Noir? I'm sure I'll like the films but want to know about the transfers since it's a DVD set.

Originally Posted by nitin

Transfers are fine for DVD, and it’s one of the best Eclipse sets film wise.

Agreed transfer are fine and would have been okay if it had been a bluray set. You'll enjoy it.

I just traded in my copy of Nikkatsu Noir. I found the films a bit tedious on first viewing and never watched them again.

[bornthisway]

I need another Lynch release please (preferably Inland Empire or Lost Highway). Freaks would be a dream for Halloween. Still anticipating that Hedwig release as well.

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by Scottie

I'd be very surprised if we didn't get that Altered States announcement with the October release calendar.

You know, there is a LONGER version of Altered States. I saw it myself at a sneak preview in San Diego (Cinema 21, the theater was called) about nine months before the film was actually released. It was epic length, almost three hours with several scenes that were completely cut from the finished film and many long trims and deep cuts in scenes that are in the finished film. Important exposition, and infinitely more explicit in terms of nudity and provocative imagery. Think of the finished film as the Reader's Digest version.

If Criterion releases Altered States I hope they include the sneak preview as a bonus. You won't believe your eyes.

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by mrjohnnyb

The next announcement, which should be on Monday, July 16th, will be for the month of October. Usually, a horror title is announced. I would gladly accept any of these titles:

Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
The Tenant (Roman Polanski, 1976)
Hour of the Wolf (Ingmar Bergman, 1968)
The Devils (Ken Russell, 1971)
I Walked with a Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997)
Night of the Demon (Jacques Tourneur, 1957)
Häxan upgrade (Benjamin Christensen, 1922)

Yes to all, but add:
The Dead Zone
Lost Highway
Sisters

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by hagios

Alright my fellow Criterion lovers, I've got a question for you all as I'm going for my 2nd round soon! I would like to get some more (if Criterion has any more that I do not have that are similar) in subtle Horror, Westerns & Gangsters/Political Thrillers! Any help is very much appreciated!!

These are the ones I own as of now:

Horror

Godzilla
Eyes without A Face
The Silence Of The Lambs
Vampyr
Island Of Lost Souls
Carnival Of Souls
Cat People
The Innocents
The Uninvited
Night Of The Living Dead
Don't Look Now
Repulsion
The Magician
Rosemary's Baby
Brood

Westerns

Red River
My Darling Clementine
Stagecoach
McCabe & Mrs Miller
3:10 To Yuma
Jubal
The Shooting/Ride In The Whirlwind
Ride With The Devil

Gangsters/Political Thrillers

Le Samouraï
Insomnia
Ministry Of Fear
The Killers
Carlos
The Confession
State Of Siege

For horror, you might want to watch DIABOLIQUE, DAY OF WRATH and if you don't mind Asian films WOMAN IN THE DUNES, THE FACE OF ANOTHER and two by the amazing Kaneto Shindo ONIBABA and KURONEKO.

For western, THE BALLAD OF GREGORIO CORTEZ is a masterwork waiting to be discovered. Criterion will release it July 27th so you'll have to wait a few weeks.

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by koberulz

That's...also not entirely true. Grain and sharpeness are both details, increasing detail increases both relative to their previous states, but some films are inherently grainier than others. Throwing digital grain over something won't make it any sharper, nor will choosing grainier film stock.

Ok, but I'm talking in the context of his question - a source material that is natively grainy. Nothing to do with digital grain.

[StarDestroyer52]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

I want Criterion to release blurays of these Hitchcock films NOW:

1927 Downhill
1928 The Farmer's Wife
1929 The Manxman
1931 The Skin Game
1931 Rich and Strange
1932 Number 17
1936 Sabotage
1937 Young and Innocent

What are they waiting for? If Criterion can stream them they put them on disc, too.

Note that

1927 Easy Virtue
1927 The Ring
1928 Champagne
1929 Blackmail (sound and silent versions)
1930 Juno and the Paycock
1930 Murder
1936 Secret Agent

are conspicuously missing from the streaming list, so perhaps Criterion will have to negotiate for those.

What are they waiting for?

Downhill is an extra on The Lodger.