Pioneer Elite BDP-LX500

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

You heard it first on Blu-ray.com

Just today I was able to confirm Pioneer's Elite BDP-LX500 will launch in the USA this October for $999, delivered nationwide. Here's the first image of the USA version of Pioneer's Elite BDP-LX500 Universal BD player:



You may have seen early prototype images before, but not with Pioneer's Elite USA Gold escutcheon markings, enhanced dampening feet and chassis.

Here's the link to our dedicated BDP-LX500 page with more information.

This player will make its USA showing at CEDIA and of course soon after at Value Electronics.

Originally Posted by ronboster

BM falls into the trap we all do sometimes, we "want" something, so we only look for "signs" (in this case there are no facts) that support our position.

Like his question about Home Alone being out of print because Amazon didn't have any copies (besides the secondary market). When someone pointed out the other retailers that were carrying the less than 45 day old title, he scoffed and said that information didn't mean anything.

See how that works?

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

That will change when there are no dedicated, high end flagship players left in production.

Then it will be "why didn't I get the __________ when It was still available?".

Originally Posted by R3P0

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Originally Posted by Geoff D

So you do all this inane pontificating about 4K and HDR and this and that and whatever else some ****tard on YouTube tells you, yet you don't even have a 4K setup of any description. Jesus funking Christ.

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Wonder what happens in 3 weeks when there is no Pioneer announcement at CES 2021.

Originally Posted by gkolb

Think about the word factory (for consumer electronics). They’re all in Asia.
These items were NOT shipped to Asia and back to be refurbished.

Some 3rd party company runs some checks here in NA and replaces defective parts. If you get the chance to buy an independent warranty on these items, you should take it.

Originally Posted by Waboman

That made me chuckle.

Originally Posted by johndoyle123

Had a interesting conversation with someone over at pioneer Australia (distribution partner) was able to verify the info from U.K. also

Lx500 is discontinued in USA, but will be reissued in spring 2021 in eu and Asia
Not sure if there will be any amendments to spec

Originally Posted by smithb

Or not.

Originally Posted by Vilya

You do not need to "deny" what you think is the truth, but you also do not need to remind us of your opinion everyday, either.

That's all the grief that I will give you for awhile as I am taken ill. I sure hope that discs are still here when I recover.

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Keeping up hope.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Don’t own the Pioneer player, have 3 UHD BD players, 3 BD players, another one in mini van, BD drive in one computer and UHD BD drive in another computer.

I’m interested in any new player and visit this thread to see what folks have to say about the Pioneer UHD BD player.

I have a soft spot for Pioneer, owned a Pioneer CLD-900 LaserDisc player for 19 years and a RT-707 reel-to-reel tape machine for a few years, it was a great looking machine and mounted in my 19" rack without adapters. Donated the CLD-900 and all my disc. The RT-707 was sold and replaced with a Teac A-3340S because it had 10-½" reels and was 4 channels.

So here is hoping Pioneer can continue and offer products that appeal to their target market.

We just heard word about new Pioneer receivers which will be announced at CES 2021, but no player yet.

[BijouMan]

Coincidentally, Panasonic used to call their LaserDisc players "LX-something."

[Waboman]

That is an epic multi quote post. I tip my hat, good sir.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by Waboman

That is an epic multi quote post. I tip my hat, good sir.

Yes, it really shows he can cut and paste...but what is the message or purpose of the post...I'm not sure??

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Yes, it really shows he can cut and paste...but what is the message or purpose of the post...I'm not sure??

It's his way of admitting to us that there will not be a new Pioneer player.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

It's his way of admitting to us that there will not be a new Pioneer player.

Neither Pioneer nor I said there wasn't going to be one, it just hasn't happened yet. Companies usually end up announcing more things than just three new receiver models.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Neither Pioneer nor I said there wasn't going to be one, it just hasn't happened yet. Companies usually end up announcing more things than just three new receiver models.

Yes, but you made comments like this:

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Pioneer never said there will be no new players, unlike OPPO.

Originally Posted by BijouMan

So we'll likely see a new model at CES.

So your inference was there would be a new player. If you had just stuck with "i wish or hope" instead of idiotic read between the line inferences, you would have been fine.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Yes, but you made comments like this:






So your inference was there would be a new player. If you had just stuck with "i wish or hope" instead of idiotic read between the line inferences, you would have been fine.

OK. I hope they will announce a new player soon.

UPDATE: It looks like Pioneer has all but, albeit quietly, exited the disc player market. I have owned the Panasonic for a while now, and if you do want a machine with all these features there is the MAGNETAR.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

OK. I hope they will announce a new player soon.

We all do or we wouldn't spend this much time on the forum

[Waboman]

[R3P0]

Pioneer will be at the virtual CES 2021 HOWEVER they are NOT announcing a new UHD player. They are scheduled to talk about AV and their role in autonomous cars. I actually cannot see 1 single 4K player announcement so it appears it will be absent from CES once again in 2021 as it was in 2020.

If you go to the official CES page

https://digital.ces.tech/sessions?t=...522%253A0%257D

You can See Pioneer does not even have an announcement scheduled for 2021 products. This my friends is the end.

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[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Pioneer will be at the virtual CES 2021 HOWEVER they are NOT announcing a new UHD player. They are scheduled to talk about AV and their role in autonomous cars. I actually cannot see 1 single 4K player announcement so it appears it will be absent from CES once again in 2021 as it was in 2020.

If you go to the official CES page

https://digital.ces.tech/sessions?t=...522%253A0%257D

You can See Pioneer does not even have an announcement scheduled for 2021 products. This my friends is the end.

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OK. How about IFA 2021? IFA is where they introduced the flagship SC-LX904 receiver, which basically looks like the UDP-LX500/UDP-LX800 only MUCH larger, as well as the PD-50AE Super Audio CD player.

Remember Pioneer just got back in business again, so maybe it hasn’t been enough time for development of a player.

Besides, Ultra HD Blu-ray players obviously fall into the A/V category. The format is only almost five years old. My hope is still not lost.

UPDATE: It looks like Pioneer has all but, albeit quietly, exited the disc player market. Now there is the MAGNETAR for those who want a machine with all of these features.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

OK. How about IFA 2021? IFA is where they introduced the flagship SC-LX904 receiver, which basically looks like the UDP-LX500/UDP-LX800 only MUCH larger, as well as the PD-50AE Super Audio CD player.

Remember Pioneer just got back in business again, so maybe it hasn’t been enough time for development of a player.

Besides, Ultra HD Blu-ray players obviously fall into the A/V category. The format is only almost five years old. My hope is still not lost.

You just dont get it man. Everyone has been telling you from the get go, the Ultra HD format on physical media simply does not have the support of the people it is all about streaming.

According to numbers gathered by research firm Futuresource for the conference and supplied to us, the global installed base of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players was estimated to be 7.4 million units for 2019 and is forecast to rise to 10.7 million in 2020; 14.2 million in 2021 and 17.5 million in 2022. Again, these numbers are for dedicated Ultra HD Blu-ray players only.

That indicates that over the next three years, there will be flat year-to-year growth and a global unit shipment level of 3.3 million (2020), 3.5 million (2021), and 3.3 million (2022).

The numbers indicate that while demand for the physical media format exists, it’s not the thriving category that the original Blu-ray Disc format was at this point in its rollout.

There simply just is not enough support from the production companies. The most your going to have soon are low end players. Thats it. Plain and simple. You can keep hoping but every industry insider as well as high end retail insider is going to tell you the same thing. These companies are pulling out. Count Pioneer as the final two that left in 2020.

At this point if you continue to keep this up its like talking to a brick wall because for months you kept saying CES 2021 new announcement. well guess what I showed you CES isnt happening now your saying something else. give it a rest its over. Pioneer Elite in the USA is gone its over.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Seriously doubt a new BD or UHD BD player was a high priority for any maker during 2020. Without a new addition to the spec or a new chip set made available why would there be.

Same for streaming players, during 2020 Roku added DV to the Ultra, Chromecast added one with a remote, no change for Apple, Fire TV or Nvidia. Would not expect to see any major new announcements CES 2021.

Media players did see new models in 2020 from Dune and Zidoo based on the newer Realtek RTD1619. Some expect new players from Zappiti.

By now most should be aware Tascam has a new BD-MP4K UHD BD player for 2021 but it is targeted for the commercial market.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Seriously doubt a new BD or UHD BD player was a high priority for any maker during 2020. Without a new addition to the spec or a new chip set made available why would there be.

Same for streaming players, during 2020 Roku added DV to the Ultra, Chromecast added one with a remote, no change for Apple, Fire TV or Nvidia. Would not expect to see any major new announcements CES 2021.

Media players did see new models in 2020 from Dune and Zidoo based on the newer Realtek RTD1619. Some expect new players from Zappiti.

By now most should be aware Tascam has a new BD-MP4K UHD BD player for 2021 but it is targeted for the commercial market.

Nice info Wendell, but in all honesty its just him he refuses to accept what everyone is telling him. Its like a trying to teach a 5 year old how to read or a 2 year old how to use the potty.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Well, if you’re theory’s correct, I will never own a player then.

The adage: Cutting off one's nose to spite their own face . . . comes to mind.

[Lee A Stewart]

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

[LexInHD]

We are a year or two away from any new chipsets, with AV1 decoding, so new players are not likely until that time. AV1 is just now landing in TV SOCs and then comes the media player/set-top box SOCs, which will lead to UHD-BD players.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

I'll still be patient. We'll have a better chance at IFA. Remember, I keep my players for a very long time. As you probably know by now, it will be replacing an 11-year-old Blu-ray 3D player I got free with my old display from Korean company "S." It wouldn't really matter to me if I upgraded my equipment every two years or so, as a lot of people on this forum do, but I am a long-term user, so it's worth the wait for me.

IFA is geared to Europe like CES is geared to the US. You live in the US.

The only new "features" are Dolby Vision IQ and HDR10+ Adaptive which are TV features, not player features. And the lead company no longer makes BD players for the US.

You can wait till Hell freezes over - manufacturers have seen that UHD-BD is a niche format and doesn't require new players. That's why none have been announced.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

We are a year or two away from any new chipsets, with AV1 decoding, so new players are not likely until that time. AV1 is just now landing in TV SOCs and then comes the media player/set-top box SOCs, which will lead to UHD-BD players.

AV1 is a type of streaming format. Ultra HD Blu-ray discs are encoded in HEVC (High Efficiency Video Coding, aka H.265 and MPEG-H Part 2).