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Old 09-16-2022, 09:17 PM   #3221
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There's also the possibility that the stock that's left at that point is all the thoroughly crushed packages that people returned.

That would actually make sense that those would be discounted because at that point retailers would be happy to get something for them.
I would accept a crushed package for a big reduction in price as long as the SLV is OK. I can then put that in a standard case and ditch all the tat.
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:39 PM   #3222
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After watching all three of the cuts, I'm liking the longer version most but it should have been on its own disc with things corrected like the DE. Especially after forcing people to get the overpriced set!

I'm getting rid my slv/theatrical blu-ray and the swag from the complete journey if anyone wants it pm me.
The Blu-ray as in from the UK set or the 4k disc?
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:33 PM   #3223
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I received my UHD BD from the US (I live in Spain) and it got in mint condition even the slip cover.
I think this is the best Star Trek The Motion has ever looked, and I own a budget set up. Even with an entry level 55" LG OLED set and a Sony X800 M2, picture quality is great.
Are the new FX perfect? No, they're not. Some are very good and blend very well with 1979 FX's and some not so much. What I like about this new DC is that is nothing like the Star Wars Especial Editions from1997. On these, the digital FX seem to be made on purpose to look like "new" (by 1997 standards) and don't pretended to blend in with 1977 original FX.

The soundtrack even played in two channels on my new stero set up sounds great.
One thing that has catched my attention about this new release is Jerry Goldsmith's score. It sounds better than ever and on par with the rest of the movie soundtrack. I think for Goldsmith's score on this release it's more than likely that they used the 2012 remix of the score and released by La La Land records. This 2012 remix sounds outstanding.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:42 PM   #3224
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Also, even if it gets clearanced for cheap doesn't mean it won't Increase in value after it's long out of print. This will likely be the best release of TMP and 4k Blu-ray is the end of the road for physical media.
I think TMP theatrical/SLV looks fantastic. I know some have issues with some touch ups, but I only owned this with the DNR BD and the image on the UHD looks almost as good as the 2001 UHD.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:45 PM   #3225
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The soundtrack even played in two channels on my new stero set up sounds great.
One thing that has catched my attention about this new release is Jerry Goldsmith's score. It sounds better than ever and on par with the rest of the movie soundtrack. I think for Goldsmith's score on this release it's more than likely that they used the 2012 remix of the score and released by La La Land records. This 2012 remix sounds outstanding.
From what I understand, Bruce Botnick (who worked with Goldsmith for years, including on TMP) supervised a new remix of the score specifically for use in the new Atmos track. He mentioned something about it in an interview a couple of years ago.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:11 AM   #3226
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There's also the possibility that the stock that's left at that point is all the thoroughly crushed packages that people returned.

That would actually make sense that those would be discounted because at that point retailers would be happy to get something for them.
If that's the case, they would have to disclose that they are discounted due to damage. Otherwise, people would order them expecting them to be in good condition and just return them again when they arrive crushed, maybe even more so after a 2nd/3rd trip.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:56 AM   #3227
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I would accept a crushed package for a big reduction in price as long as the SLV is OK. I can then put that in a standard case and ditch all the tat.
This is precisely what I did. The outer glossy sleeve was dented pretty badly, but the inner box (which is quite thick and nice) was totally fine, so WTH ever. All I wanted was the discs anyway. All the swag inside was fine. I just threw the SLV/TC disc in with the standard set, and replaced the STVI BD (which I threw in the TCA box since I’ll never use it anyway) with the TMP bonus disc, and I’m good to go.
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Old 09-17-2022, 05:09 AM   #3228
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I preordered the star trek 4k 3 disk set. Sadly it came in with no padding and the sides creased up. I picked one up at local best buy. It was better condition but still creases on the long sides of the box. Are everyones creased up on the sides? For the money id like it in better condition bit not excited to start an expedition Around town
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Old 09-17-2022, 05:16 AM   #3229
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You couldn't ask this in the already existing thread?
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Old 09-17-2022, 05:32 AM   #3230
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From what I understand, Bruce Botnick (who worked with Goldsmith for years, including on TMP) supervised a new remix of the score specifically for use in the new Atmos track. He mentioned something about it in an interview a couple of years ago.
Botnick did a stereo mix from a 192kHz/24bit transfer of the analog 16-track 2-inch 30 i.p.s. masters for the La-La Land releases of the score. He later mixed what's in the Atmos track from a copy of the 192kHz/24bit 16-track transfer, after it was conformed to the DE by Mike Matessino.

I noticed at least one surprisingly distinct difference from the La-La Land CD mix (and the original album) in a quick listen to the isolated score on the DE 4K disc (during the Klingon Battle). I was very pleased to find the entire Warp 7 music included and synched. I'm hoping to find more time to listen to it soon.

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Old 09-17-2022, 07:55 AM   #3231
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I would accept a crushed package for a big reduction in price as long as the SLV is OK. I can then put that in a standard case and ditch all the tat.
Two copies of the standard version so far and both slips are crushed. Trying one more time.
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Old 09-17-2022, 07:57 AM   #3232
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Here's a simple cover I made for the UK 5-disc set if anyone wants it.

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Old 09-17-2022, 08:34 AM   #3233
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I received my UHD BD from the US (I live in Spain) and it got in mint condition even the slip cover.
I think this is the best Star Trek The Motion has ever looked, and I own a budget set up. Even with an entry level 55" LG OLED set and a Sony X800 M2, picture quality is great.
Are the new FX perfect? No, they're not. Some are very good and blend very well with 1979 FX's and some not so much. What I like about this new DC is that is nothing like the Star Wars Especial Editions from1997. On these, the digital FX seem to be made on purpose to look like "new" (by 1997 standards) and don't pretended to blend in with 1977 original FX.

The soundtrack even played in two channels on my new stero set up sounds great.
One thing that has catched my attention about this new release is Jerry Goldsmith's score. It sounds better than ever and on par with the rest of the movie soundtrack. I think for Goldsmith's score on this release it's more than likely that they used the 2012 remix of the score and released by La La Land records. This 2012 remix sounds outstanding.
The film score is excellent. Quite eerie in places. Lots of weird sounds - like ALIEN.

Having now seen the three versions, I'd say the new 2022 DE is my favourite cut of the film.

Glad THAT shot was fixed for the (first-time on home video) widescreen presentation for the SLV - and - also include the unfinished shot as an extra.
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Old 09-17-2022, 10:58 AM   #3234
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SLV version for me from now on , it looks and sounds better to me .
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Old 09-17-2022, 12:50 PM   #3235
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I rewatched The Wrath of Khan last night, which I think of as flawless, but one thing struck me as weird that happens after the attack on the Enterprise. Why does Scotty show up on the bridge carrying his badly injured nephew in his arms instead of going right to sickbay? What was the point of showing everyone on the bridge first?
From what I recall, there was a known engineering flaw on the Enterprise that required patients being transported via lift to the sick bay to be weighed first. Apparently that lift could only support a known weight and Scotty knew he was pushing it as it was. With the original (and since discredited) ship designer being heavily influenced by Feng Shui, the nearest weigh station was placed at the back of the bridge.
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Old 09-17-2022, 12:55 PM   #3236
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You couldn't ask this in the already existing thread?
Truth be told I thought i did, search for some reason kept giving me digital posts and other less desirable threads for some reason so i tried to pick the closest one it would give me, if made a mistake, I made a mistake, i hate the search in here it never gives me what i expect

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Old 09-17-2022, 01:04 PM   #3237
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it might nudge Paramount closer to taking on DS9 and Voyager.
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I looked in this morning to see what people are saying, and I'll say something that I probably won't respond to.
I've asked questions from the contacts I have (for a few years) regarding DS9 and Voyager, and the word that you used "nudge" has already happened - several times in several meetings and for various reasons.
From what's been suggested, the suits have crunched the numbers (several times in several meetings) to see if there's profit in (at least) blu-ray issues and it seems to be left on the table for consideration every time for one reason or another.
I've also been told that while the planning stages of Paramount + was a thing, the suits were looking at what they had for property rights and why they're now limiting what Amazon Prime gets as well, pulling back on reissuing the rights to carry on streaming services... some may have noticed that Amazon lost the rights to stream some of the shows now?
It's all to bump up subscription sales to the streaming service.
We all hear things like "the end of the physical media" but the fact is, there's still a profit margin in that (to some of the larger studios), so the end is probably not as near as some speculate. The reasons for that is speculation though, but the thinking is based on those profit margins as changes have taken place, especially the last couple of years.
Several times, I've heard - based on what the pandemic has done to literally screw up the streaming services - "tip the ship on its side" was the wording... there are more suggestions of possible season one issues on blu-ray for DS9 or Voyager or both, just to see if the sales support the costs.
Cross your fingers on this if you're interested because it may be coming sooner than later as a test to see if the costs justify the project(s).

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Old 09-17-2022, 01:29 PM   #3238
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This contradicts what we've seen. Half are sitting in a warehouse? So whose fault is that, and why sell them for 1/2 price if people are having trouble finding them?
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Perhaps you've heard about something that's been happening in the last few years called "supply chain" - and now expand the thinking for a moment...
the normal warehouse is jammed packed, and inventory may show that it's there... but where?
Also, as those warehouses are jammed packed, additional warehouses had to be leased / rented for storage space.
So, now "the other" inventory list may show it's there... but where?
There's more to this insanity... from what I've heard, you may live in a town that has something like an old, mostly abandoned mall of some kind that's had some unusual truck activity in the last year or so?
Guess where the overflow of inventory is going - but for obvious reasons, not a well known fact?
Oh, and I used the word "town" because the value of some of this freight is so high that big city crime rates were considered in the thinking because the security systems haven't been fixed or turned on, or the lease / rent is much lower in the town (or both reasons for those who are thinking about the safety of their freight).
For years, I knew of a few unmarked warehouses that use blind box shipping bills so that even the truckers themselves never really knew what they were hauling... like Nike shoes, like big screen TV's, etc., etc., etc.
The largest retailers in the U.S. (Walmart, Amazon, to name a few) are aware they have stock... they just don't know where, or how "buried" it is along with other freight in some warehouse somewhere.
By the way, expect more and more "sales" as stock comes into the stores (or Amazon warehouses) as the stores (or warehouses) also have limited storage space and can't accept it all at once, either.
I hope that answers some questions.
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I do agree that supply chain issues are a mess these days, and often it seems nobody knows when they're getting stuff in. This affects everything from Lego to board games, movies to collectibles, and everything in-between. Heck, I haven't been able to find a box of vanilla instant pudding in any of my local grocery stores for like a month now. Nobody knows when they'll get more.
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I do agree that supply chain issues are a mess these days, and often it seems nobody knows when they're getting stuff in. This affects everything from Lego to board games, movies to collectibles, and everything in-between. Heck, I haven't been able to find a box of vanilla instant pudding in any of my local grocery stores for like a month now. Nobody knows when they'll get more.
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You made me laugh just now. I hate the stuff (vanilla pudding), but there's plenty of it around here. I just can't find the dark chocolate stuff or Chocolate Mini Wheats very often, but find plenty of it 100 miles from here.
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