Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Despicable 4K
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World 4K
The Greatest Showman 4K
Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi 4K
2001: ​A Space Odyssey 4K

I take it that you mean Despicable Me? All of them or just certain ones?

I have all of the others that you listed.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I take it that you mean Despicable Me? All of them or just certain ones?

I have all of the others that you listed.

Yes, you wanted examples of family friendly reference UHD media without much use of force.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The brutality of the movie is a good point; it is definitely not a suitable demo disc for all audiences.

With that in mind, which movies on 4K disc are both demo worthy AND family friendly, considering both animated and non-animated fare?

Going through my collection for an answer, it is very apparent that no children live in this house. The only one I came up with is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Going through my collection for an answer, it is very apparent that no children live in this house. The only one I came up with is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

No kids live here, either, but some of my friend's wives have a much lower tolerance for cinematic violence than I do. I certainly can't show them The Revenant.

[JohnAV]

It's not just Amazon: Here's where you can get deals this week - CNN

Here's who else having sales this week:

Best Buy
Black Friday is starting Tuesday for the thriving electronics retailer.
Best Buy (BBY) is promising shoppers "dozens of deals straight from the not-yet-released Black Friday ad" over the two days. Purchases will come with a "guarantee," with Best Buy refunding the difference if the item's price drops before the actual Black Friday.
This week's event is just a portion of holiday deals because it's releasing more deals later this month.

BJ's Wholesale Club
The membership warehouse club is kicking off its holiday sales event Tuesday with the "Beyond Amazing Savings Event." Like other retailers, shoppers will see discounts on electronics, small appliances and toys at both its website and in-stores. Black Friday sales will continue until the end of November.

BJ's (BJ) is having a phenomenal year despite being smaller than rivals. The chain, which has more than 200 stores, grew sales at stores open for at least one year 24.2% to $3.9 billion during its latest quarter ended August 1 — a faster clip than the growth rates reported by Costco (COST) and Walmart-owned Sam's Club in the same period.

Target
Target (TGT) is bringing back Deal Days, a two-day event that starts Tuesday. The retailer promises that this year's event will have "nearly 1 million more deals" than last year and will serve as a revamped kick-off to the key holiday shopping season.

CEO Brian Cornell said in an earnings call that the inaugural Deal Days event held last year "was outstanding, both in terms of guest response or promotions as well as the ability of our operations to handle the surge in demand."
Target's Black Friday deals actually begins in November and will offer "weeklong discounts and digital deals every day."

Walmart
Walmart (WMT) beat every competitor to the punch, beginning its sales event Sunday. The "Big Save" event lasts until Thursday, with the retailer offering "Black Friday-like savings on thousands of items" including home goods and electronics.

The event could boost its newly launched $98-a-year subscription service that offers free shipping on items $35 and over and same-day deliveries on certain items from stores.
Walmart recently promised an "all-new Black Friday experience," with details being released soon.

[Vilya]

An interesting little tidbit at Vudu; they have made a key change in how they word things. Formerly, when you looked at one of the titles in your digital collection it would read "You own UHD (or HDX, etc.)"

Now it instead reads "You purchased UHD, etc." This change in wording was no accident. Apparently, their new owner (Fandango) and/or the studios want to make it plain that there is no implied ownership when you make a digital purchase or when you redeem a digital code.

This change in wording is shown when you use a computer to browse your digital collection; the phone app still uses the old wording as it presumably has not been updated yet to reflect this change.

I read this in the "Vudu to be acquired by Fandango" thread and I confirmed it by looking at my own digital collection via my pc. I did not check with the Vudu app on my TVs.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...3#post18185743

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Happy indigenous peoples day,

I’m watching the Revenant and I’m convinced my system has never ever looked or sounded better. This has my vote for best way to show off or just enjoy a home theater

You Good Old Boy Guys that prefer Discs just like to control this Thread, well I have The Revenant in HDX and it's available in UHD and should look just as Amazing in Digital. With the Cinemas in trouble, you guys do know there is a great Streaming World out there with lots of new Movies. You don't have to rely on old Catalog Titles. Here are some you can get now with Soul coming on Christmas Day to Disney+!

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[PenguinInfinity]

I'm sure all of those titles will be released on Blu-ray soon enough. Two of them already have release dates set for next month.

Quality and real ownership are worth waiting for.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

An interesting little tidbit at Vudu; they have made a key change in how they word things. Formerly, when you looked at one of the titles in your digital collection it would read "You own UHD (or HDX, etc.)"

Now it instead reads "You purchased UHD, etc." This change in wording was no accident. Apparently, their new owner (Fandango) and/or the studios want to make it plain that there is no implied ownership when you make a digital purchase or when you redeem a digital code.

This change in wording is shown when you use a computer to browse your digital collection; the phone app still uses the old wording as it presumably has not been updated yet to reflect this change.

I read this in the "Vudu to be acquired by Fandango" thread and I confirmed it by looking at my own digital collection via my pc. I did not check with the Vudu app on my TVs.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...3#post18185743

Fadango which Vudu is a division is 70% owned by ComCast/NBCUniversal, and 30% owned by AT&T/WarnerMedia

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You Good Old Boy Guys that prefer Discs just like to control this Thread, well I have The Revenant in HDX and it's available in UHD and should look just as Amazing in Digital. With the Cinemas in trouble, you guys do know there is a great Streaming World out there with lots of new Movies.

Well it doesn't, have compared both. So be happy with what you got, and stop being jealous that its not the best video quality even with UHD streaming. You really need to upgrade your equipment if you want to compare too.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You Good Old Boy Guys that prefer Discs just like to control this Thread, well I have The Revenant in HDX and it's available in UHD and should look just as Amazing in Digital. With the Cinemas in trouble, you guys do know there is a great Streaming World out there with lots of new Movies. You don't have to rely on old Catalog Titles. Here are some you can get now with Soul coming on Christmas Day to Disney+!

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"Good Old Boy Guys?" What are you trying to say here and why the gender redundancy? Do you refer to women as "Good Old Girl Gals?"

The term "Good Old Boy" can be seen as either a positive or a negative term. Considering how you have historically referred to those that prefer discs, I suspect that you mean the negative connotation here.

People commenting about their favorite 4K discs is in no way an attempt to "control this thread." You are just as free to comment about which streaming titles impress you even though we all know that you think that everything streamed looks "Fantastic!"

The Revenant on 4K disc trounces the streaming version, period.

There have not been "lots of new movies" released anywhere this year and what little has been released have come to disc also.

All of the titles that you mentioned will be available on disc in due time. Unlike you, we "Good Old Boy Guys" will get better quality and we will actually own what we buy.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

There have not been "lots of new movies" released anywhere this year and what little has been released have come to disc also.

All of the titles that you mentioned will be available on disc in due time. Unlike you, we will get better quality and we will actually own what we buy.

Alchav seems to think that that because more movies skipped theaters this year they will also skip disc. There is absolutely no evidence to support that conclusion, as usual for alchav.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Alchav seems to think that that because more movies skipped theaters this year they will also skip disc. There is absolutely no evidence to support that conclusion, as usual for alchav.

"Evidence" isn't even in his vocabulary. He draws all of his conclusions from accosting strangers at his local Walmart.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

"Good Old Boy Guys?" What are you trying to say here and why the gender redundancy? Do you refer to women as "Good Old Girl Gals?"

The term "Good Old Boy" can be seen as either a positive or a negative term. Considering how you have historically referred to those that prefer discs, I suspect that you mean the negative connotation here.

People commenting about their favorite 4K discs is in no way an attempt to "control this thread." You are just as free to comment about which streaming titles impress you even though we all know that you think that everything streamed looks "Fantastic!"

The Revenant on 4K disc trounces the streaming version, period.

There have not been "lots of new movies" released anywhere this year and what little has been released have come to disc also.

All of the titles that you mentioned will be available on disc in due time. Unlike you, we "Good Old Boy Guys" will get better quality and we will actually own what we buy.

Alchav is riding on the coat tails of Cevolution. He is taking that inaccurate comment and bleeding it dry lol.

[bhampton]

Who cares about the terms and conditions anyway?

Well, I do. I don’t have a Facebook account and I do have the Oculus Go.

You can’t log onto oculus go without Facebook soon.
Quote If you’re an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years.

https://www.oculus.com/blog/a-single.../?locale=en_US
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/19/2...rs-competition

Here’s one of those “the future” type things where assets including your virtual assets are traded like stock.

I’ll hope the Apple Vr is out soon. That would be cool.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Who cares about the terms and conditions anyway?

Well, I do. I don’t have a Facebook account and I do have the oculus go.

You can’t log onto oculus go without Facebook soon.
Quote If you’re an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years.

https://www.oculus.com/blog/a-single.../?locale=en_US
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/19/2...rs-competition

I’ll hope the Apple Vr is out soon. That would be cool.

Apple VR will probably hit at around the same time as PlayStation’s next gen effort. 2022 sounds about right to me.

In the meantime, PSVR owners can use the PS5 to play current generation VR games with a special adaptor that will be free of charge. I’m keeping my PS4 anyway though so not a huge deal.

[bhampton]

I haven’t used my PSVR since getting the go. PsVR has cables and Go is completely wireless.

But I should revisit it. My kids love the crazy driving game VR track mania and I have some VR games I like.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

The only one I came up with is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

IMHO, that one has one of the best immersive sound tracks available. Another title for family demo would be The House With A Clock In Its Walls, also has a great immersive sound track.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Alchav seems to think that that because more movies skipped theaters this year they will also skip disc. There is absolutely no evidence to support that conclusion, as usual for alchav.

He also thinks in terms of having only one source available. I have many, many streaming titles (don't care enough to count them) plus several streaming subscriptions. There are others here with similar resources. If available, I will always play a disc. I try to stay in shape so I can tote that < 1 oz. disc from the storage cabinet to the player.

[lgans316]

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