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Old 05-22-2022, 11:04 PM   #6981
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Even though it plays every other of the hundred UHDs that I have? Anyway I am done, I will just stick with BDs.

Then exchange the few discs that don't play. You're making way too much out of this.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:05 PM   #6982
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Really, I come to a thread dedicated to a 4K UHD because I am having a problem playing the discs and I get a smartass replay calling me a liar and I am making too much out of it?
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:18 PM   #6983
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Really, I come to a thread dedicated to a 4K UHD because I am having a problem playing the discs and I get a smartass replay calling me a liar and I am making too much out of it?
The only thing you can do is try the discs on another player, if they're an issue then, then you know they're the problem.

If you don't have access to a player you could try a local AV specialist store.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:22 PM   #6984
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OK, this is my last post and then I will leave the thread for good. The copies I have of both the LOTR Trilogy and the Back To The Future Trilogy are my second copies. I have never been able to get the Extended LOTR discs to play correctly out of either set. My first set of BTTT had the second film lock up several times. I am not going for third copies.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:32 PM   #6985
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OK, this is my last post and then I will leave the thread for good. The copies I have of both the LOTR Trilogy and the Back To The Future Trilogy are my second copies. I have never been able to get the Extended LOTR discs to play correctly out of either set. My first set of BTTT had the second film lock up several times. I am not going for third copies.
It's worth eliminating the discs as an issue, then you can focus on the player.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:38 PM   #6986
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It's worth eliminating the discs as an issue, then you can focus on the player.

I don't know if they want to listen or not. They're kind of acting stubborn.



These particular discs have been known to also have more than their fair share of micro scratches, etc. that could affect playback



Perhaps a wipe down from center out (always in a straight line) with a micro fiber cloth in case there is some residue from the disc plant still on them too.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:43 PM   #6987
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Stop feeding concern trolls. So tiring. I was completely right about that person Lol They claim it's just pragmatic reporting of a disc issue but they tag most posts in here with "guys im leaving the entire format over these few discs not playing" And I'm not gonna do my due dilligence over what people are telling me might be wrong. Just gonna keep claiming it's a disc issue...

Come on. Called it.
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Old 05-23-2022, 08:02 AM   #6988
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I don't know if they want to listen or not. They're kind of acting stubborn.



These particular discs have been known to also have more than their fair share of micro scratches, etc. that could affect playback



Perhaps a wipe down from center out (always in a straight line) with a micro fiber cloth in case there is some residue from the disc plant still on them too.
Hold on, are you saying it could be the discs? I thought it had to be a hardware problem.

There are not any scratches and. I wiped them off with a micro cloth. I also took BTTF 2 and 3 and. Jaws to my neighbor's house and played. them on his new Panasonic. While they didn't pixelate on his player the all three froze in the same spots as they did on my Sony.

Also,if I was going to troll a thread I wouldn't have picked one that hasn't been active in weeks.
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Old 05-23-2022, 02:30 PM   #6989
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Hold on, are you saying it could be the discs? I thought it had to be a hardware problem.

There are not any scratches and. I wiped them off with a micro cloth. I also took BTTF 2 and 3 and. Jaws to my neighbor's house and played. them on his new Panasonic. While they didn't pixelate on his player the all three froze in the same spots as they did on my Sony.

Also,if I was going to troll a thread I wouldn't have picked one that hasn't been active in weeks.
Micro scratches may not be seen unless you search for them under a direct light. Worth looking into.

This is why I said earlier, that without seeing your discs for ourselves, we kind of have to take your word that they are spotless, so hardware seems to be the likely issue.
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Old 05-23-2022, 03:43 PM   #6990
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Even though it plays every other of the hundred UHDs that I have? Anyway I am done, I will just stick with BDs.
Okay well stick to BDs then. If you’re going to be obstinate about it when people are trying to help you troubleshoot, I don’t think anybody really cares what you choose to do.
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Old 05-23-2022, 04:36 PM   #6991
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If the discs do have hairline scratches on them, which they don't, doesn't that make it the disc's fault that they aren't playing correctly? That kind of goes with what I wrote in my original post.
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Old 05-24-2022, 01:01 AM   #6992
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Hold on, are you saying it could be the discs? I thought it had to be a hardware problem.

There are not any scratches and. I wiped them off with a micro cloth. I also took BTTF 2 and 3 and. Jaws to my neighbor's house and played. them on his new Panasonic. While they didn't pixelate on his player the all three froze in the same spots as they did on my Sony.

Also,if I was going to troll a thread I wouldn't have picked one that hasn't been active in weeks.
I have the Sony x700 player and I've had problems with these UHDs over the last months:
- Tenet (disc was stacked on top of the BD, came with scratches - skips and freezes in several places)
- Gladiator (no scratches, maybe 1 or 2 tiny near microscopic marks)
- Back to the Future - only on Part 2 in one scene
- John Wick 2 (totally smooth and scratch free disc - froze in 1 scene)
- Schindler's List

Scratched discs that played fine:
- The LOTR 4k set
- Justice League Trilogy set
- Psycho 4k in the Alfred Hitchcock 4k Vol 1 set
- Most of the discs in the Columbia Classics Vol.2 set

If you're worried about getting another defective replacement, you can try ordering the UK versions. These discs are made in different pressing plants around the EU. The US discs originating from Mexico seem to be problematic these days.

I ended up re-ordering Tenet, Gladiator and Schindler's List from amazon.uk last month. Will see if these hold up over the next few years.
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Old 06-04-2022, 12:25 AM   #6993
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So, I decided to upgrade from the 25th Anniversary set to the 35th Anniversary one. In the mean time I was looking back through Caps-a-holic and noticed some interesting compression. Here, on Doc's toolbelt...

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...4&l=0&i=4&go=1

Is this set more aggressively compressed or am I mistaking this for film grain?
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Old 06-04-2022, 12:33 AM   #6994
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I have the remastered BD set, but recently got 4k gear and a UHD player. Should i bother upgrading this set that is essentially the same except one is UHD?

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Old 06-04-2022, 01:04 AM   #6995
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If the discs do have hairline scratches on them, which they don't, doesn't that make it the disc's fault that they aren't playing correctly? That kind of goes with what I wrote in my original post.
Do you have an oppo 203 or 205

Edit. Nm I read back and saw. I do know when the optical drive of the oppos starts going bad it affects specific discs for me and others which causes us to sound like raving lunatics because we are convinced it has to be the disc with that kind of pattern. In our cases replacing the optical drive made all those spefic discs playable again.



Walk your discs into a Best Buy magnolia center and see if they'll let you test them out.

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Old 06-04-2022, 03:21 AM   #6996
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So, I decided to upgrade from the 25th Anniversary set to the 35th Anniversary one. In the mean time I was looking back through Caps-a-holic and noticed some interesting compression. Here, on Doc's toolbelt...

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...4&l=0&i=4&go=1

Is this set more aggressively compressed or am I mistaking this for film grain?
It's not film grain. The compression you're seeing there on the standard Blu-ray is all but absent on the 4K UHD:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=14...4&a=2&go=1&l=1
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Old 06-04-2022, 03:54 PM   #6997
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I have the Sony x700 player and I've had problems with these UHDs over the last months:
- Tenet (disc was stacked on top of the BD, came with scratches - skips and freezes in several places)
- Gladiator (no scratches, maybe 1 or 2 tiny near microscopic marks)
- Back to the Future - only on Part 2 in one scene
- John Wick 2 (totally smooth and scratch free disc - froze in 1 scene)
- Schindler's List

Scratched discs that played fine:
- The LOTR 4k set
- Justice League Trilogy set
- Psycho 4k in the Alfred Hitchcock 4k Vol 1 set
- Most of the discs in the Columbia Classics Vol.2 set

If you're worried about getting another defective replacement, you can try ordering the UK versions. These discs are made in different pressing plants around the EU. The US discs originating from Mexico seem to be problematic these days.

I ended up re-ordering Tenet, Gladiator and Schindler's List from amazon.uk last month. Will see if these hold up over the next few years.
It maybe the player, I had that for about year and it was not great, even had issues with cds. I upgraded to the x800m2 and its such a better player and stable, barely had an issue since.
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I have the remastered BD set, but recently got 4k gear and a UHD player. Should i bother upgrading this set that is essentially the same except one is UHD?
The UHD BDs are superior.
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Old 06-05-2022, 05:16 AM   #6999
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It maybe the player, I had that for about year and it was not great, even had issues with cds. I upgraded to the x800m2 and its such a better player and stable, barely had an issue since.
I'd get the x800m2 if it was available in-store but unfortunately only the model Sony is making available in my country is the x700 and I'm not sure about importing it online...

The x700 isn't the greatest but I make sure to have spare units, rotate amongst each, play only SACD and UHDs on it (and play 1080p blu and DVDs on other players) to ensure some longevity. My oldest unit from 2018 still is fine. I just need to steer clear of titles pressed on BD-100s from Warner and Universal that come from the Mexico plants for now and import the UK variants.
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