Fantastic Four: Reborn (Casting Rumors: Bruce Willis or Kiefer Sutherland as Thing?)

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

The first 2 films are far from good, especially the awful 2nd one that was a bit too much PG. Yeah, Fantastic Four isn't a dark comic, but we don't need it to be PG either. Way too kid friendly.

I'm sorry?

"bit too much PG"?
"we don't need it to be PG either"?

"Ghost Rider", which should have been a "R" film, was too "PG" (or PG-13 in this case)... along with other issues...

"Daredevil", possibly should have been an "R" as well... along with other issues...

There is NOTHING wrong with a PG rating for a film, as long as it suits the style of the film, and in the case of the "Fantastic Four", it does. The comic book has always (for the most part) been about a family who goes on "fantastic" adventures... and would certainly fit in the style of films that get PG ratings.

~Alan

[Beast]

Lame.

The first two films were pretty damn good. And I hate the idea of going "Dark" with Fantastic Four. They shouldn't be "Dark", the whole theme of Fantastic Four is about family. A lighter family friendly theme is much more in keeping with the comics. I knew that trainwreck Dark Knight would lead to crap like this.

[Porkchop Express]

Although I did not like either Fantastic Four movie, I thought they did relatively well at the box office, didn't they? I'm surprised we are not just getting a part 3.

[P@t_Mtl]

Too make a good F4 movies they should look at what Brad Bird did with The Incredibles. Good mix of action along with drama & comedy. That's what a good F4 movie should be like IMO

[derelicte]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Too make a good F4 movies they should look at what Brad Bird did with The Incredibles. Good mix of action along with drama & comedy. That's what a good F4 movie should be like IMO

And there's the solution. Ditch the Fantastic Four movie and make a sequel to The Incredibles. That film had far more heart, action and entertainment than the first 2 F4 movies combined!
(yes, I know it's 2 completely different studios - just wishful thinking on my part...)

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by derelicte

And there's the solution. Ditch the Fantastic Four movie and make a sequel to The Incredibles. That film had far more heart, action and entertainment than the first 2 F4 movies combined!
(yes, I know it's 2 completely different studios - just wishful thinking on my part...)

I want another Incredibles movie just as much as you do, believe me. best PIXAR movie ever.

[uziel5000]

I was actually pleasantly surprised when I saw both FF movies. Maybe it's because I had such low expectations or the fact that the last attempt was so bad it was never released that I was getting ready for the worse but they were certainly not bad.

Actually, I wouldv'e liked to have seen the current cast doing another movie, perhaps with another director or with scipt going on a different direction (not darker).

And I'll never get tired of watching Alba on a skin tight suit... EVER.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Beast

Lame.

The first two films were pretty damn good. And I hate the idea of going "Dark" with Fantastic Four. They shouldn't be "Dark", the whole theme of Fantastic Four is about family. A lighter family friendly theme is much more in keeping with the comics. I knew that trainwreck Dark Knight would lead to crap like this.

I have now invented a drinking game *hiccup!* after you. Congrats!


OT, I absolutely loved "The Incredibles"- that's how you do a PG family superhero movie with style, heart and a great story. I liked the 2nd FF movie, but mostly because of the Silver Surfer- he really made it for me. My 4 year old likes it as well, so I may pick up the first one at some point.

To me, relaunching is always interesting as it gives you a chance to learn from your mistakes. Hollywood has certainly done so with superhero movies- look at Batman (no comment from you Beast), the Punisher and the Hulk as a couple of recent examples. I'm open to the idea of relaunching it, but I'm willing to bet they'll flub it up, again.

[P@t_Mtl]

I was wondering something, was this not because Marvel Studios want's to take away the rights of the F4 away from FOX? I tought I heard this somewhere?

[iori]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I was wondering something, was this not because Marvel Studios want's to take away the rights of the F4 away from FOX? I tought I heard this somewhere?

Probably, I think they have to make a movie every so many years or the rights revert back to Marvel. You see they squeezed out the turd of a movie wolverine, to keep the rights to all that stuff.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by JHM

Probably, I think they have to make a movie every so many years or the rights revert back to Marvel. You see they squeezed out the turd of a movie wolverine, to keep the rights to all that stuff.

Actually, they have plenty of X-men related films in production, so there was no danger of rights reverting there. They "squeezed out that turd" because that is simply the first of the X-men spin-off movies to be produced, because it was centered on the most popular character of the spin-offs they had to work with.

Originally Posted by Beast

You lost all credibility by saying that Halle Berry was a good actress.

She did win an Oscar for Monster's Ball...

Originally Posted by MCT

what about a subtly racist caricature of black folks that has bulging eyes and is a bumbling dolt, yet somehow winds up becoming a Senator that decides the fate of the Republic?

If you think Jar Jar was a racial allegory, you are a racist yourself. He was made to be a fool, yes, but to connect the dots from "fool" to "black folk" is racist.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

She did win an Oscar for Monster's Ball...

As the old saying goes... "Even the sun shines on a dog's ass some days."

If you think Jar Jar was a racial allegory, you are a racist yourself. He was made to be a fool, yes, but to connect the dots from "fool" to "black folk" is racist.

Don't mind him. He just likes to troll me.

[MCT]

[doctorsteve]

Darker?

BRING ON GALACTUS!!!!!

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

Darker?

BRING ON GALACTUS!!!!!

I doubt we'll ever see Galactus lol. I don't think they'd pull it off....especially not in New York.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

I doubt we'll ever see Galactus lol. I don't think they'd pull it off....especially not in New York.

Yeah, that's why they took the direction of not directly showing him in FF2.

A giant purple guy in a pope hat would look rediculous.

[Batman1980]

Score Pope 7, Heathens nothing!
*MAKES ODD HONKING NOISES*
I didn't mind the CGI Galactus THAT much, just thought they might as well left him off-camera completely.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Beast

Yeah, that's why they took the direction of not directly showing him in FF2.

A giant purple guy in a pope hat would look rediculous.

Star trek and Wars have gotten away with worse... As long as you yank the Four off Earth, introduce the idea of what other species look like/dress like (Skrulls for example) You could convince folks that a guy with a buckle fascination and a finned chef hat could be a reality. You could make him look creepy and evil. Heck, Bay made giant cartoon robots look believable. Why not Big G?

[MCT]

Originally Posted by Beast

A giant purple guy in a pope hat would look rediculous.

what about a subtly racist caricature of black folks that has bulging eyes and is a bumbling dolt, yet somehow winds up becoming a Senator that decides the fate of the Republic?

[plenipote]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

I'm sorry?

"bit too much PG"?
"we don't need it to be PG either"?

"Ghost Rider", which should have been a "R" film, was too "PG" (or PG-13 in this case)... along with other issues...

"Daredevil", possibly should have been an "R" as well... along with other issues...

There is NOTHING wrong with a PG rating for a film, as long as it suits the style of the film, and in the case of the "Fantastic Four", it does. The comic book has always (for the most part) been about a family who goes on "fantastic" adventures... and would certainly fit in the style of films that get PG ratings.

~Alan

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