The "uninformed" mom effect - Blu-ray Forum

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

@stockstar... They're waiting for you....

http://www.hotmomsclub.com/

MY POINT EXACTLY! This is wat teh moms does on teh internetz, not 1 thnig about teh blu-rays on taht website!

bluperch · 11-16-2007, 03:40 PM

I have this image of all these people in uniforms walking around buying things by mistake. It's a party in my brain ... and everyone's invited.

All the hot moms are wearing Kate Beckinsale (Underworld) uniforms.

Manco · 11-16-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

MY POINT EXACTLY! This is wat teh moms does on teh internetz, not 1 thnig about teh blu-rays on taht website!

LOL!! Nothing more exciting than getting together to chat about Breast Feeding. hehehe

Living Near Shamu · 11-16-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

LOL!! Nothing more exciting than getting together to chat about Breast Feeding. hehehe

LMAO!

glenn22 · 11-16-2007, 03:43 PM

I don't think this will really be a problem for 2 reasons:

1) Price as most people here have already mentioned. Most moms are pretty concious of the price on items and will notice that the price is very high on a blu-ray compared to the usual dvds they purchase.

2) DVDs and Blu-ray usually have different sections in most stores and the mom is most likely to head to the DVD section.

It's not impossible for this to happen, I just don't think it will happen a lot or become an issue.

Manco · 11-16-2007, 03:47 PM

This is all really thought provoking...

...but can anyone recommend a good creame for cracked nipples??

Joe Cain · 11-16-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

This is all really thought provoking...

...but can anyone recommend a good creame for cracked nipples??

Lansinoh Lanolin.

PossumPete · 11-16-2007, 03:48 PM

I had a co-worker buy "300" on an HD-DVD combo disc. She was complaining about how it wouldn't play right. Only the DVD side would play. I finally asked her to bring in her player's manual to see if there was a setting that she missed. Turns out is wasn't even an HD-DVD player. She thought it was because she bought a new DVD player with HDMI!

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PossumPete

I had a co-worker buy "300" on an HD-DVD combo disc. She was complaining about how it wouldn't play right. Only the DVD side would play. I finally asked her to bring in her player's manual to see if there was a setting that she missed. Turns out is wasn't even an HD-DVD player. She thought it was because she bought a new DVD player with HDMI!

I would argue that HD DVD has much more business from uniformed ppl than blu-ray would too. simply because of the name. i don't think more than 15% of teh US population could explain the difference between upconversion and native hd.

Sonny · 11-16-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PossumPete

I had a co-worker buy "300" on an HD-DVD combo disc. She was complaining about how it wouldn't play right. Only the DVD side would play. I finally asked her to bring in her player's manual to see if there was a setting that she missed. Turns out is wasn't even an HD-DVD player. She thought it was because she bought a new DVD player with HDMI!

See thats the thing HDMI DVD confuse people & stuff like well I have an HDTV so now all my TV shows are HD WRONG! & their DVDs are in HD now because its hooked up to a HDTV WRONG! People just NEED to be schooled in all of this...

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn22

I don't think this will really be a problem for 2 reasons:

1) Price as most people here have already mentioned. Most moms are pretty concious of the price on items and will notice that the price is very high on a blu-ray compared to the usual dvds they purchase.

2) DVDs and Blu-ray usually have different sections in most stores and the mom is most likely to head to the DVD section.

It's not impossible for this to happen, I just don't think it will happen a lot or become an issue.

1. yeah, but moms love their kids, if she knows her kid wants a movie and it comes up to be 5 dollars higher than she though, she isn't going to say hold on, im going to go look if there are cheaper ones, she is just going to pony up the extra 5. 2. while they do at BBY and CC, moms are most likely to buy their dvds from wal-mart while they are shopping. at my walmart there is an endcap for blu-ray and an endcap for new releases, then some get mixed in with each other. its not marked off well.

glenn22 · 11-16-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

1. yeah, but moms love their kids, if she knows her kid wants a movie and it comes up to be 5 dollars higher than she though, she isn't going to say hold on, im going to go look if there are cheaper ones, she is just going to pony up the extra 5. 2. while they do at BBY and CC, moms are most likely to buy their dvds from wal-mart while they are shopping. at my walmart there is an endcap for blu-ray and an endcap for new releases, then some get mixed in with each other. its not marked off well.

yeah that's where the potential exists for that error to be made.... however, on those endcaps for new releases where the movies are mixed, MOST of the time the DVD version is sitting right next to the Blu-ray version... I have to think that most people would notice the 2 versions and at a minimum, the price difference.

The Big Blue · 11-16-2007, 03:53 PM

I've got a thing for Moms in uniform. But that's just me.

Manco · 11-16-2007, 03:57 PM

on the serious side... it will be interesting to see how many people get Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs for holiday gifts when the intent was just a DVD. Have you seen the shelves during the shopping season? Gawdaful disarray of cases strewn about....people picking through bins. You know a lot of mom's out there will doing the shopping-cart-hustle and be tossing the wrong discs into the basket.

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

on the serious side... it will be interesting to see how many people get Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs for holiday gifts when the intent was just a DVD. Have you seen the shelves during the shopping season? Gawdaful disarray of cases strewn about....people picking through bins. You know a lot of mom's out there will doing the shopping-cart-hustle and be tossing the wrong discs into the basket.

what scares me a little is people who pick up hd dvds thinking it will work on a dvd player and make it hd (non-combos) they find out the won't work (if its not a combo) and research it a little and find out the need a hd dvd player. well, hd dvd players are under 100 bucks and i already bought a 24.99 movie, ill just go out and take the hd plunge and buy a player.

bluperch · 11-16-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

what scares me a little is people who pick up hd dvds thinking it will work on a dvd player and make it hd (non-combos) they find out the won't work (if its not a combo) and research it a little and find out the need a hd dvd player. well, hd dvd players are under 100 bucks and i already bought a 24.99 movie, ill just go out and take the hd plunge and buy a player.

If not for the PS3 (because it's selling in the millions), that would have me very worried. DVD to HD DVD. Seems only natural (intuitive, even). DVD to Blu-ray ... huh? What the heck's a blu-ray, some kinda ray gun?

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn22

yeah that's where the potential exists for that error to be made.... however, on those endcaps for new releases where the movies are mixed, MOST of the time the DVD version is sitting right next to the Blu-ray version... I have to think that most people would notice the 2 versions and at a minimum, the price difference.

yeah, but also keep in mind we are talking soley about kids movies. the movies i have noticed that have gotten mixed in are Ghost Rider, TMNT, 300, Knocked Up, and We Are Marshall. The other thing my store does is these little dvd/bd cubicals as you enter the store for new releases, very flashy, the blu-ray is always in the middle of the dvds with a little BD logo underneath. I think it would easy to simply pick up Surf's Up or Ratatouille on BD (both had these promo displys), continue shopping. and remember people at wal-mart are shopping for other things than bds, so if your totla comes out to 105 and you estimated it to be 100, you really won't question it.

bilbravo · 11-16-2007, 04:39 PM

Why does everyone think the average consumer is mentally deficient? It's one thing that these "average" consumers don't know the difference between HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, but they are not just going to buy some movie that is $10-15 more (Rat was $15.99 on first day, $30 on Blu-Ray) and not notice ... or not notice that the case is different, that is "Blu-Ray".

I'm sure it happens, but I very seriously doubt it is enough to skew the weekly numbers by even a fraction of a percent.

stockstar1138 · 11-16-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbravo

Why does everyone think the average consumer is mentally deficient? It's one thing that these "average" consumers don't know the difference between HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, but they are not just going to buy some movie that is $10-15 more (Rat was $15.99 on first day, $30 on Blu-Ray) and not notice ... or not notice that the case is different, that is "Blu-Ray".

I'm sure it happens, but I very seriously doubt it is enough to skew the weekly numbers by even a fraction of a percent.

not at wal-mart, it was 19.99 for dvd and 24.99 for blu-ray. the target of this thread is way more likely to buy a movie at wal-mart than at bby or cc,

bluperch · 11-16-2007, 03:54 PM

And not all the packaging is that different (and I'm not talking about just moms. There are so many people who have no idea about this "war" let alone that HD stuff even exists). When I went to get CE3K at Best Buy it was NOT in the blu-ray section. I finally found it in the "bestseller" section and except that it was tinted blue, it looked just like the sDVD packaging (yes, there was a little blu-ray logo on it, but people would have to know to look for it and they're going to expect a collector's set to be expensive, so I doubt the price would raise a red flag ... er, a blu flag).

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11-16-2007, 03:40 PM	#2
bluperch Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Lakewood, CO	I have this image of all these people in uniforms walking around buying things by mistake. It's a party in my brain ... and everyone's invited. All the hot moms are wearing Kate Beckinsale (Underworld) uniforms.

11-16-2007, 03:43 PM	#5
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	I don't think this will really be a problem for 2 reasons: 1) Price as most people here have already mentioned. Most moms are pretty concious of the price on items and will notice that the price is very high on a blu-ray compared to the usual dvds they purchase. 2) DVDs and Blu-ray usually have different sections in most stores and the mom is most likely to head to the DVD section. It's not impossible for this to happen, I just don't think it will happen a lot or become an issue.

11-16-2007, 03:47 PM	#6
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	This is all really thought provoking... ...but can anyone recommend a good creame for cracked nipples??

11-16-2007, 03:48 PM	#8
PossumPete Active Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northeast NC 4K collection:523 Blu-ray collection:2669 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	I had a co-worker buy "300" on an HD-DVD combo disc. She was complaining about how it wouldn't play right. Only the DVD side would play. I finally asked her to bring in her player's manual to see if there was a setting that she missed. Turns out is wasn't even an HD-DVD player. She thought it was because she bought a new DVD player with HDMI!

11-16-2007, 03:53 PM	#13
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	I've got a thing for Moms in uniform. But that's just me.

11-16-2007, 03:57 PM	#14
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	on the serious side... it will be interesting to see how many people get Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs for holiday gifts when the intent was just a DVD. Have you seen the shelves during the shopping season? Gawdaful disarray of cases strewn about....people picking through bins. You know a lot of mom's out there will doing the shopping-cart-hustle and be tossing the wrong discs into the basket.

11-16-2007, 04:39 PM	#18
bilbravo Expert Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:MD, USA Blu-ray collection:28	Why does everyone think the average consumer is mentally deficient? It's one thing that these "average" consumers don't know the difference between HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, but they are not just going to buy some movie that is $10-15 more (Rat was $15.99 on first day, $30 on Blu-Ray) and not notice ... or not notice that the case is different, that is "Blu-Ray". I'm sure it happens, but I very seriously doubt it is enough to skew the weekly numbers by even a fraction of a percent.

11-16-2007, 03:54 PM	#20
bluperch Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Lakewood, CO	And not all the packaging is that different (and I'm not talking about just moms. There are so many people who have no idea about this "war" let alone that HD stuff even exists). When I went to get CE3K at Best Buy it was NOT in the blu-ray section. I finally found it in the "bestseller" section and except that it was tinted blue, it looked just like the sDVD packaging (yes, there was a little blu-ray logo on it, but people would have to know to look for it and they're going to expect a collector's set to be expensive, so I doubt the price would raise a red flag ... er, a blu flag).

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