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Old 11-18-2007, 04:15 AM   #1
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Right, I know it's a disc issue for HD DVD. But, it's a great way to let movies "live" on. And I'd love to see BLU releases use it.

I'm slowly becoming more of an extras guy now. Grrr.

I never cared until I watched the extra on Sky Captain (how they made the film). It was very interesting.

And the fact pops on Shrek (eww, dirty word) is cool.

Oh, and by web-enabled, I was talking about doing stuff like this on the player and not having to put the disc in your computer.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:30 AM   #2
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Right, I know it's a disc issue for HD DVD. But, it's a great way to let movies "live" on. And I'd love to see BLU releases use it.

I'm slowly becoming more of an extras guy now. Grrr.

I never cared until I watched the extra on Sky Captain (how they made the film). It was very interesting.

And the fact pops on Shrek (eww, dirty word) is cool.

Oh, and by web-enabled, I was talking about doing stuff like this on the player and not having to put the disc in your computer.
I dont think all blu 1.1 will have ethernet ports, but I think 2.0 will. of course PS3s all have ethernet but, "living on"? how many studios will update web features for old/previous releases? Not many, it takes too much time/money.
With the space of Blu, one set of features. Close encounters has three theatrical versions and tons and tons of extras(2 dics), How many hours of extras can one watch anyways? Already Cars and ratatoullie have games/extras that rival the best extras HD DVD has, and not even 1.1. I think the future is good for Blu-ray and its features web-enabled or not.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:34 AM   #3
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It's not so much video, it's fun stuff.

For instance, Shrek (dirty word again) has a Shrek coloring book coming via web content. Okay, yes, I'm not going to color. But my kids will.

My point is that with disc content, it's now or never. There's no adding after the fact. The web-enabled feature allows studios to do more and to evolve.

I'm just wondering about the "option" to do it and not trying to discuss what format is better or this or that. If nothing else, it could be a way to allow studios to fix or add to extra items on the disc.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:42 AM   #4
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It's not so much video, it's fun stuff.

For instance, Shrek (dirty word again) has a Shrek coloring book coming via web content. Okay, yes, I'm not going to color. But my kids will.

My point is that with disc content, it's now or never. There's no adding after the fact. The web-enabled feature allows studios to do more and to evolve.

I'm just wondering about the "option" to do it and not trying to discuss what format is better or this or that. If nothing else, it could be a way to allow studios to fix or add to extra items on the disc.
Try the cars game or the ratatouille game, my only point is that the studios wont keep updating these web features. After the movie is done making money, it wont be updated. And all can be done at time of release with blu-ray space. But Im sure we will see it.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:29 AM   #5
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Try the cars game or the ratatouille game, my only point is that the studios wont keep updating these web features. After the movie is done making money, it wont be updated. And all can be done at time of release with blu-ray space. But Im sure we will see it.
Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

Now, if we could just get HD extras and not 480p leftovers, we'd be perfect.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:43 AM   #6
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Even profile1.1 only player can handle web based contents downloaded via PC to SD card etc. This fact was comfirmed by Panasonic and DENON.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:29 AM   #7
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my speculation:

profile 2.0 will eventually be standard/mandatory



for enthusiasts, high quality video and audio is enough reason to buy into hdm. in order to appeal to the masses like j6p, interactivity is key.

right now the war is with hd-dvd so the focus is on things like studio support, ce support, shelf space, etc

when hd-dvd folds, the war will be with sd-dvd and convincing j6p to upgrade. that's when interactivity will become much more prominent in titles and profile 2.0 will become mandatory either by BDA decree or simply by consumer expectation
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:42 AM   #8
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Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.

1) the trailers on a dvd can be updated for current times (ever watch an older dvd and see a trailer for a movie "coming soon to theatres" but it's already out on dvd?)

2) the biography pages can be updated. someone rents "pretty woman" and click on julia robert's info page. it shows her movie career but also says "Charlie Wilson's War" coming out in 2008

3) disney decides to do spinoff movie or tv show of sidekick from one of their movies XYZ. they upload a game for XYZ focusing on the sidekick to get kids more interested in that character.

etc

etc


oh, and because blu-ray is more programmable than hd-dvd and requires more on-board storage for profile 2.0 than hd-dvd it makes the possibilites quite endless, so they'll likely come up with things we're not thinking about today.

hd-dvd may brag about being feature complete, but it's also feature limited. in the long term blu-ray will show itself to be the better choice for interactivity just like it's already showing itself to be the better choice for audio&video quality (video bitrate being dipped into, audio languages being cut out, discs being filled to the brim with just the movie, etc)

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:47 AM   #9
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who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ?
if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ?

it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:00 PM   #10
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the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.
Awesome, more advertising in my life. Please count me out.
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