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Old 05-01-2007, 02:08 AM   #1
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The flickering issue is something I've been battling with every since I got my set last year. It first started with broadcast TV; anything in 720p looked great where as 1080i had a lot of flickering with whites/thin lines/darkish shadows. Heroes looks incredible but Lost looks out of control.

The problem carried over to my upscaling DVD player. If I had it set to 1080i, I would get a lot of flicker. If I had it set to 720p, not so much.

The problem continues with the PS3. I've only watched a few Blu-Ray movies but so far I've found the problem mostly with Planet Earth and The Prestige, but I am sure as I watch more, I'll experience more of it.

It's not a big deal in the big picture of things (no pun intended), but it freakin sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I've researched the issue a lot and the only thing I can find is this:

Sounds like interlace artifacts to me, probably due to poor deinterlacer performance. A number of Samsung 2006 LCDs were known for their poor performance with 1080i signals. The 3241D wasn't tested, but the 3251D failed both tests.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookm...hook/index.html

If you are using a cable STB/DVR, I would try setting its output to 720p. DVD and Blu-ray playback might be preferable at 720p as well.

If you decide to purchase a new TV to address this issue, you might want to read this post for background information.


 
Old 05-01-2007, 02:21 AM   #2
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The flickering issue is something I've been battling with every since I got my set last year. It first started with broadcast TV; anything in 720p looked great where as 1080i had a lot of flickering with whites/thin lines/darkish shadows. Heroes looks incredible but Lost looks out of control.

The problem carried over to my upscaling DVD player. If I had it set to 1080i, I would get a lot of flicker. If I had it set to 720p, not so much.

The problem continues with the PS3. I've only watched a few Blu-Ray movies but so far I've found the problem mostly with Planet Earth and The Prestige, but I am sure as I watch more, I'll experience more of it.

It's not a big deal in the big picture of things (no pun intended), but it freakin sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I've researched the issue a lot and the only thing I can find is this:

Sounds like interlace artifacts to me, probably due to poor deinterlacer performance. A number of Samsung 2006 LCDs were known for their poor performance with 1080i signals. The 3241D wasn't tested, but the 3251D failed both tests.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookm...hook/index.html

If you are using a cable STB/DVR, I would try setting its output to 720p. DVD and Blu-ray playback might be preferable at 720p as well.

If you decide to purchase a new TV to address this issue, you might want to read this post for background information.


Let me put your mind at ease chawknz, I doubt it's your TV, i've got a mitsubishi 1080p set, and i've set it to 1080i and back and it happens with both settings. As for your issues with LOST, that's where it gets fishy, my broadcast looks perfectly fine, which cable provider are you with?

But not to get too much off the subject, this issue is a big problem and i'm sure alot of you are upset, me especially for paying 100 bucks at best buy for it.... I would never drop that much on a blu ray set just to bring it home and get horrible picture problems...
 
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Let me put your mind at ease chawknz, I doubt it's your TV, i've got a mitsubishi 1080p set, and i've set it to 1080i and back and it happens with both settings. As for your issues with LOST, that's where it gets fishy, my broadcast looks perfectly fine, which cable provider are you with?

But not to get too much off the subject, this issue is a big problem and i'm sure alot of you are upset, me especially for paying 100 bucks at best buy for it.... I would never drop that much on a blu ray set just to bring it home and get horrible picture problems...
Thanks for this message. It's a bit reassuring, but I wish I knew what the heck causes this problem.

The flickering happened with both Cox Cable HD in Phoenix and also using an HD OTA antenna here in Denver. The greenery in Lost just flickers out of control and it drives me mental. I'm still very much in the camp of "it's the TV", but I look forward to future possibilities and resolutions.
 
Old 05-01-2007, 02:38 AM   #4
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Yup, I have that 'on off' flicker on the Angel Fals scene on the first Disc. I'm using a 1080p, 32" Sharp Aquos w/a PS3 and that flicker is downright annoying.
 
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Any suggestions? Maybe take the disc to a Sony store and see if it happens on their equipment...
 
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Any suggestions? Maybe take the disc to a Sony store and see if it happens on their equipment...
I'm not sure what that would accomplish... I have a Sony Playstation 3 with hdmi hookups connected to a 1080p tv, which is about the best they could test it on in their stores. I think the only thing we can do is send a hefty amount of emails to BBC America Home Entertainment, cause a little stir, and wait...
 
Old 05-01-2007, 04:06 AM   #7
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I was thinking of eliminating the 1080i factor, and possibly the PS3 (assuming they had a standalone B-ray player hooked up) from the equation... but if you're experiencing this on 1080p then I guess going to Sony would be a waste of time... unless I upgraded my set :-)
 
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Thanks for this message. It's a bit reassuring, but I wish I knew what the heck causes this problem.

The flickering happened with both Cox Cable HD in Phoenix and also using an HD OTA antenna here in Denver. The greenery in Lost just flickers out of control and it drives me mental. I'm still very much in the camp of "it's the TV", but I look forward to future possibilities and resolutions.
It think it IS your TV. I've got a Samsung with the same problem (on "Lost" especially). Turning off the Dynamic contrast and lighting settings fixed it for me. I'll have to try feeding it 720p. The Planet Earth issue sounds like a different issue altogether.
 
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