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Old 05-01-2008, 09:31 AM   #81
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What Universal to use DTS-HD MA as their Blu-ray standard ? Have they gone insane ? They should have followed the Warner route by giving lossy DD @ 640 Kbps. Shame on them.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:35 AM   #82
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That was news I was waiting for! Hopefully they will go for a descent PQ (not overcompressing as they did with many DVD's). Then they will belong to the top again!

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What Universal to use DTS-HD MA as their Blu-ray standard ? Have they gone insane ? They should have followed the Warner route by giving lossy DD @ 640 Kbps. Shame on them.
Don't give them any ideas.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:37 AM   #83
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Universal in a way appologize from beating us at first ,so from now and on is using DTSHDMA GORGEOUS and Marvelous.

Awaiting Bourne trilogy in DTSHDMA audio and many more.

Crongratulation Universal on choosing the lossless sound i'm comfortable with.

Thanks.

By the way JOSH why this great news is not posted on the front page!!!

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Old 05-01-2008, 10:01 AM   #84
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That was news I was waiting for! Hopefully they will go for a descent PQ (not overcompressing as they did with many DVD's). Then they will belong to the top again!



Don't give them any ideas.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:05 AM   #85
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The discs themselves were never the problem. Certain receivers had poorly implemented ICs for their DTS-HD MA decoding. It has been fixed already if you update the receiver.
F.Y.I. DTS designed the ICs. The "bombs" are certain sequences in the encodings themselves. It was up to Onkyo and the others to engineer a workaround for their screwup.

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Yeah I know. I'm just trying find why Dolby TrueHD doesn't compare to movies that are in DTS MA or PCM. Oh well, just glad Universal picked DTS MA!!!
Spider-Man 2 perhaps? You're simply comparing sound mixes, or perhaps not decoding it properly.

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I don't like TrueHD nearly as much as DTS HD MA. I've said it a hundred times that Dolby detailing is not nearly as rich or positionally accurate as DTS tracks in all "supposedly equal" forms. DTS HD MA and PCM tracks always fill my room with more sound (NOT MORE VOLUME as many will say) than TrueHD tracks. In my opinion, TrueHD is great for romances, comedies, and documentaries. Action, fantasy, adventure, and every other type of film not mentioned deserves PCM or DTS HD MA to push the experience to its utmost presentation ability.

And before counter arguements ensue, I have been scrutinously listening for the differences from a completely objective viewpoint as I have been reviewing digital media for the last several years. Every disc I play gets a clean slate approach. I'll finish the movie and pop in a couple of comparable genre titles to compare the sound of PCM and TrueHD tracks. Each time, the DTS HD MA has more weight to it.
Ridiculous. You know as well as I do had the soundtracks in question that you prefer been encoded in TrueHD they would have sounded THE SAME. Plus many more people would get to enjoy them. Panasonic BD10 owners, all Sony standalones, PC owners, etc. Not to mention the PS3 from day one.

Besides, I'm betting Cloverfield will knock the socks off of any DTS-MA track out there.

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when I watch a movie in dolby truehd I have to put the volume up to around 19 or 20 to get the same sound I get on dts-hdma at 15. I don't care what anybody says my ears tell me that dts-hdma is the best.
Louder = better? Usually that means that the recording in question has less dynamic range. Something CD engineers have had to deal with in the iPod generation: boosting the lows and lowering the highs to compensate for poor ears & equipment.

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Let us not forget that other than the titles by Paramount that were already authored, they're giving us BD optomized picture and sound. Universal (last I heard) will be giving us a mix of HD DVD optomized picture and BD optomized sound.

At this moment, I prefer DTS-HD MA over Dolby TrueHD and PCM simply because I don't have an HDMI receiver capable of providing me lossless sound, and DTS-HD MA still provides me with a 1.5 mbps soundtrack, but by the time Universal titles start to come out I should have a new receiver, so I'm open either way!
DD @640 > DTS @1536

Not to mention DTS provides no dynamic range control, has encoding & decoding issues and all sorts of other charming issues.

Fanboyism can be a scary thing.

So for the record:

Disney, Sony, Paramount, Warner = TrueHD

Fox, MGM (via Fox), New Line (may change with Warner taking over), Universal = DTS-HD MA

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Old 05-01-2008, 11:18 AM   #86
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This is great news. My HDMI Audio AVR is being delivered today, I can't wait to check out DTSMA!

And,.. Since I was never sucker enough to buy HD DUD,... I don't have to double dip on the Universal releases. It's all being done right the first time. Very happy to see they worked the kinks out on the other format. I guess HD DUD wasn't completely worthless.

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Old 05-01-2008, 11:39 AM   #87
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PeterTHX, dont be a hater, DTS HD MA is a fine codec and everyone is just happy to get lossless from Universal first and foremost. Save the DTS bashing for later!
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:25 PM   #88
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At least they aren't just porting over their old HD-DVD releases.

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Old 05-01-2008, 01:45 PM   #89
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:03 PM   #90
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Very glad to hear that they are not just simply putting the same content on their blu-rays. I will definitely be purchasing the Mummy movies.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:06 PM   #91
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this is great news! Now I will definitely be pickin' up the Mummy series.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:14 PM   #92
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Let us not forget that other than the titles by Paramount that were already authored, they're giving us BD optomized picture and sound. Universal (last I heard) will be giving us a mix of HD DVD optomized picture and BD optomized sound.

At this moment, I prefer DTS-HD MA over Dolby TrueHD and PCM simply because I don't have an HDMI receiver capable of providing me lossless sound, and DTS-HD MA still provides me with a 1.5 mbps soundtrack, but by the time Universal titles start to come out I should have a new receiver, so I'm open either way!

I'm thrilled that Universal will be providing us with "lossless" audio though... bring on "Serenity" now!!

~Alan
Universal is approaching new transfers on a title by title basis based on the feedback of the people that compressed them in the first place and reviews. So there are titles that are being redone, including the Mummy releases that have already been announced. So they are not simply recycling their HD DVD video transfers, unless there was no real room for improvement.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:21 PM   #93
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Peter,

Whatever the reason is here but Universal is using DTSHDMA audio which is far better than Dolby Digital plus used lately on HD-DVD .

Yes i'm looking to watch my movies with the best sound and picture available and this is going to happen with Universal.

I'm glad and waiting on higher temperature to watch my first title from universal using DTSHDMA audio.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:28 PM   #94
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Universal is approaching new transfers on a title by title basis based on the feedback of the people that compressed them in the first place and reviews. So there are titles that are being redone, including the Mummy releases that have already been announced. So they are not simply recycling their HD DVD video transfers, unless there was no real room for improvement.
Good news.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:32 PM   #95
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This news will make Steven Spielberg happy.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:36 PM   #96
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Good news.
Yes indeed this is great news not only we have a shift in audio but in PQ.

This is only Outstanding and outrageous.

thanks Kris for this piece of information.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:54 PM   #98
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So far as I know I won't be able to do dts hd ma with my Sony bdp s1. So that sucks. True hd would have a been a better fit. Only way is to buy a new machine. Sometimes being an early adopter sucks.
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well someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed
PeterTHX, chill. DTS-HD MA has a core built in that is DTS. My PS3 has always been able to listen to these even when it couldn't decode it, cause the core was there for it. So anyone that can't run the MA part can still hear it fine.
Sometimes I think the audiophiles out there get a little too into it and upset at the way everyone turned out. Ppl want cheap and easy, so the quality of the sound got worse, and now it is hard to find anything in decent quality anymore. Just be glad you can afford HD and surround sound and all that, most people can not.

Still, I am very glad Universal will use this as their standard. These movies promise to sound great when they are out!
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So far as I know I won't be able to do dts hd ma with my Sony bdp s1. So that sucks. True hd would have a been a better fit. Only way is to buy a new machine. Sometimes being an early adopter sucks.

Ken,

you can buy a PS3 and enjoy DTSHDMA believe me you will not regret it.
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